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I guess I could have heard her wrong or she stated it incorrectly. She asked if DD gets flouride, I said yes from our water at home, we had it tested. I told her it was .04 ppm, she stated thaht they recommend 2.5 ppm & would give me a prescription to make up the difference if I send them a copy of our water test.
Is .25 ppm the usual recommended amount? Maybe I should call to double check (so if they are recommending that amount I can send some articles to encourage them to look into it more)? They were certainly flouride pushers.

post #63 of 143
I would definitely call to double check!
post #64 of 143

2 toddler brushing questions: flouride & spitting

thanks to any and all with advice or help:
1. how do you teach a two year old to spit? and how dangerous is it for him to swallow some toothpaste?
2. we do not have flouridated water so we've been instructed to give flouride drops, which we're currently doing although his toothpaste does not have flouride
what is the controversy with giving children flouride? and what are the facts about flouride (pro & con)?
post #65 of 143
1. I'd say teach by example. If you brush with your little one he/she will likely try to imitate your brushing and spitting. And if you choose a natural toothpaste without fluoride I'd think there wouldn't be much concern about swallowing some of the toothepaste. But just put a tad on the brush. Better yet, use crushed strawberries as a tothpaste. No worries about swallowing then!

2. You'll find plenty of discussion about fluoride in the Dental Archives and perhaps more if you do a search.

post #66 of 143
My toddler loves to spit.
Actually brushing is another thing.

We have a regiment where I told her that germies had gotten in her mouth and wanted to cause more ouchies (she has 6 cavities). And that you have to brush them out, and then spit them out. I play a game and say "Oh, I see another germie, lets brush it out, how'd it get in there..." and then she spits and we say bye bye, get outta my mouth germie." This thrills her to no ends and has been the longest lasting toothbrushing strategy for us.

Floride is very controvesial. I agree on a search. My doctor who I love and supports breastfeeding, insisted that we use floride gel with our daughter bec. of all her cavites getting worse fast, and we dont (and never have) do any of the obvious bad teeth stuff (no sodas, rare sugars, no juice, no milk, only water, no vit C tablets, good diet, etc.). I of course, struggle to get it on her teeth.
So we made the descision that ahving healthy teeth and less dentist visits was more important than the possible risks of floride in her system. From what I ahve read, we just dont know what it does. We also dont ahve floride in water, so we feel she will have minimal levels.

Out dentist days that toothpaste doesnt have a lot of floride. We use tom's of main with floride and are very happy.

You can also teach a toddler to swish with water. Again by example, and maybe a few times with stuff you are concerned she/ he swallows.

Be careful, there are other things in toothpast like laurel sulfates that arent good to swallow as well.

We have used a video "A trip to the dentist can be lots of fun." found at the libray. it talk about only using a pea sized bit of toothpast and how to brush right. Downright annoying, but it worked well for us.
Good luck, and keep trying.
post #67 of 143

Question about fluoride

Today I went with my baby for the check-up. She is now 8 months. THe doctor recommended given a supplement of Fluoride 2 drops a day.I had never heard about it. As anyone done that and are there anyn side effects?
post #68 of 143
Hi Audrey,i have never given my son any fluroride drops or toothpaste as i have read quite alot about how posionious it is. He is four and seems to have healthy teeth,although he won,t have anything to do with the dentist,so he has never been checked. i use a natural non fluroride toothpaste.
If you live in a town and your baby starts to drink the water, there is most likely fluroride in it and often as children consume fruit juices eyc, dependent on where they are manufactured there will be fluroride in them as well.
If you look at any childrens or adult toothpaste that is not natural,you will see there is a warning on the tube about not letting your child under six use more than a pea size amount when brushing and not to let them swallow it. This is because the fluroride is posionious and it is the only way they are allowed to put it in toothpaste by warning the consumer.
I read the "ALIVE" magazine(you can pick up a copy at most health food stores) and they have had quite a few interesting articles on it.
My son gets the "CHIRP" magazine and a parenting magazine always comes with it. The most recent one had a short snippet of info about getting your child started on brushing their teeth from an early age and it recommended non-fluroride toothpaste.
Can you check it out about the drops with a naturopath or even talk to someone at your local health store?
I was interested to read your question as i have to admit that i do have my moments when i question if i am doing the right thing not using fluroride,but i read so much against it that i have stayed away from it.
It would be interesting to hear what other people have to say about it.
I hope i haven't scared you with the info,but i thought you might like to read what i have read.
It may be that fluroride is recommended in the same way that antibiotics are and we don't always need them,but as mothers we always want to do the best by our children and we get "scared" into using them.
post #69 of 143
Hi Audrey - love your screen name, it's my DD's name.

DD had drops from age 1 to 2, didn't seem to do much good. I read here and in other places that fluoride only works when it's applied topically, i.e. on the teeth. We switched from drops, which go to the digestive system which at the best recognizes it as a poison, to tiny dabs of fluoridated toothpaste.

She had developed one cavity before age two (I'm pretty sure) and none thereafter. And she has neither the genes nor the nursing habits to suggest that it's only a matter of luck!
post #70 of 143
we use a homeopathic tisssue salt calcarea fluor try this for extra support
post #71 of 143
I had very bad experience with flouride drops. My pediatrician prescribed them for my baby 10 years ago because I was nursing her (and she only nursed for 6 months). As a new mother, I dutifully gave her her drops. Now she has flourosis of the teeth and will never have a white smile. She also had unexplained chronic constipation as a baby/toddler that we never could cure until she got older, and she has also had problems with extreme shyness. Not to say this is all related to flouride, but in my gut I feel it is. It could be that our genes are sensitive to flouride, but I stay away from it like the plague with my other 2 - only non-flouride toothpaste and a naturophathic dentist for us!

post #72 of 143
There is an interesting chapter on fluoride in the book "Prescription for natural healing"(third edition) by Phyllis A.Balch and James F.Balch,page 37.It is in the Elements of health section.
post #73 of 143
Sorry, just checking what i had written and it should be "Prescription for Nutritional Healing". My brain cells are very low at this time of night!!!
post #74 of 143
do you have floride in your water supply?
or can you buy "nursery water'.

just let them drink tap water or nursery water, it has floride in it...and that would be easier.
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floride coating

I am taking my 5 and 3 year old sons to the dentist
for the first time and they told me they will want to
do a floride coating on my 5 year old sons teeth.
Does anyone have an opinion on this? I really dont
feel like he needs it but dont know anything about it
Thanks in advance for any advice
post #77 of 143

What is the REAL scoop re flouride?

So, for the past 13 years, I haven't brushed with flouride toothpaste. I find my teeth are ok, but not so good inbetween. I haven't regularly flossed until now and have to admit, never regularly brushed until a few years ago. (I mean, I brushed, but if I was lying in bed and had forgotten, I wouldn't necessarily get up and do it.)

Now, my son is three and I've never used flouride toothpaste on him. Easy choice, as I only use natural ingredient toothpastes and until now there hasn't been one with flouride. (We live in Canada, it took a while to get Tom's with flouride up here.)

His teeth are ok, with perhaps one little "what is that?" spot on a front tooth. I hadn't been diligent enough with him about brushing (like my disclaimer above) but will now brush his teeth even if he has fallen asleep.

So, I've always believed the extra flouride in toothpaste is not only unnecessary, but dangerous, esp. for children who can't tolerate that amount of flouride.

But, since Tom's came out with a flouride toothpaste, I feel like since I trust them and they must know something I don't...... Well, should I be using that on my son?

I'm thinking there is "crappy flouride" and "good flouride" somehow. Like, do all the "crappy" toothpastes have some kind of flouride and Tom's have a line on a naturally sourced flouride?

I know it occurs naturally in water, in our bodies, etc.

Just, well, help me!
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Hee Hee! Thanks SmileMomma for the spelling. I had tried to do a search on regular internet and of course came up with nothing. Then found an article in an old Mothering Mag and, hey, it dawned on me, the spelling was different! Duh. Thanks again. I'll do the search within this site.
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