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Need help finding a doctor who has a pro-selective and delayed vaccination policy

Hi Everyone


We are relatively new olim (made Aliyah last April 2009, although do not speak any hebrew yet whatsoever!!). My first born is 15 months old and I am now looking for a doctor who is of the selective and delayed vaccination type and I am finding it almost impossible to find one! I really do not want to go to the drop of milk/tipat halav as I hear they are really pro-vaccine and I would love to have a doctor who would work with us (rather than against our vaccine choices). We currently live in the Tel Aviv area (moving to a moshav in the Ayalon Valley near Latrun junction in September) but will travel ANYWHERE to get a doctor who is a pro selective and delayed vaccine doctor!!! Please help!!! Am 8 and 1/2 months pregnant with second baby and really would like to have this sorted out before new baby arrives!!! Thank you for any and all information!!!!
post #1742 of 1777
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Originally Posted by LNT View Post
Hi Everyone


We are relatively new olim (made Aliyah last April 2009, although do not speak any hebrew yet whatsoever!!). My first born is 15 months old and I am now looking for a doctor who is of the selective and delayed vaccination type and I am finding it almost impossible to find one! I really do not want to go to the drop of milk/tipat halav as I hear they are really pro-vaccine and I would love to have a doctor who would work with us (rather than against our vaccine choices). We currently live in the Tel Aviv area (moving to a moshav in the Ayalon Valley near Latrun junction in September) but will travel ANYWHERE to get a doctor who is a pro selective and delayed vaccine doctor!!! Please help!!! Am 8 and 1/2 months pregnant with second baby and really would like to have this sorted out before new baby arrives!!! Thank you for any and all information!!!!
Deena Zimmerman...Maccabi. Shes not soooo far from you.
post #1743 of 1777
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Deena Zimmerman...Maccabi. Shes not soooo far from you.
Thank you so very much for your quick reply..... I can't quite believe after all the searching and researching I've done I have finally found an answer after just one post!!! You may have saved me countless hours which at this time with my estimated due date round the corner, hours/time have become very very precious!! Thank you so very very much!!! P.s I like your wee smiley picture things.... I am also a believer/follower of the same philosophies!

Thank you again!
post #1744 of 1777
no worries. Someone from this list helped me a long time ago by referring us to her. SHe works out of her house and she works a few hours a day 2 days a week or somesuch. Be sure to leave a message on the answering machine when you call. Because you are bound to only get that machine first. She's a native New Yorker, if I remember correctly. She's also the Nishmat doctor http://www.yoatzot.org/hotline.php as she has a speciality in the area of tarahat mishpacha and women's health issues. She is a peditrician, though.
post #1745 of 1777
Thankfully I've been lucky with the 2 Tipat Chalav clinics I've had to use and when I tell them I want to delay, split up or outright not give certain vaccinations, they don't give me any problems.

So I spent Shavuot in the hospital... I was at Tel Hashomer for 2 weeks while the ENT department schlepped me around. I went in for a suspected sinus infection that wasn't responding to oral antibiotics so my dr wanted me on a 4 day IV treatment. They did a CT which shows a tumor on the right side of my face but no real sinus infection. After keeping me in the hospital for almost 2 weeks and postponing surgery twice I finally had it last week Sunday. I go back to the hospital on Wednesday for the biopsy results. Oh and I also had a deviated septum which they fixed. And they still don't know what's causing the facial pressure and headaches. Once my nose heals (about 2 months) I guess I'll start down the list of 'ologist' and see what they can come up with. First stop will be an allergist).

We were supposed to have Netanel's Upsherin (first haircut at 3 years old) on May 21st but I was... well, in the hospital so we're having it b'Ezrat Hashem June 18th.

You can see the second official invite here: http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/y...atiInvite2.jpg and if anyone would like to come, let me know We live in Ariel.
post #1746 of 1777
r's!
post #1747 of 1777
Car seats in sherut?
We'll be taking a sherut from the airport to Yerushalayim and back to the airport. How does that work with a carseat?
post #1748 of 1777
Hi!
I didn't even think to look for an Israeli thread!
We live in Beer Sheve, I am a smc to DD 19 mo. I found out I was a natural parent when I became one! I set up a room for her and everything and found my self co-sleeping, bfing and baby-wearing till this day! After finding myself do all of these things I started to look for more information on all of this and came across this website and others that re-enforced by beliefs and help me articulate them. Baby-wearing is common enough, bfing too is well supported up till a year (since then everyone wants me to stop, including Tipat Halav, doctors and my gannenet), and only visitors know about my co-sleeping, so I did not have much social pressure, more like curiosity.
Anyone like minded in the south?
post #1749 of 1777

northern israel

Hi,
I posted here a long time ago, and I figured now that I made Aliyah I should get back in touch.
In the end, we have moved to Teverya. We are looking for like minded families in the area... anyone out there? We are dati, and although my youngest - almost 3 - is now weaned, we are long term breastfeeders, sometimes co-sleepers, slow to vaccinate, natural foodies, and homeschoolers.
We are looking for friends for our children, who are 12 (boy), 8 (boy), 5 (girl), and almost 3 (girl). (and friends for me and hubby too!)
Anyone out there close by and want to have a playdate?
Ester
post #1750 of 1777
yes! but we'll b carless soon...unless anyone knows where 2 buy a good car under 20k nis...
post #1751 of 1777
I'm sure you can get a car in your price range, the question is how reliable it would be... there are a few people who post on the NBN group who sell used cars, or match up buyers and sellers of used cars... have you looked into that?

let's get together! I think I was supposed to call you. My bad. When would work for you to have a playdate?
Send me a PM, or email me, or call me!
Thanks,
Ester
post #1752 of 1777
Any experiences to share with registering a homebirth? We will not be going to the hospital for the money from bituach leumi.

Do I need to have a form filled out by a doctor, or is the midwife enough? I do not have any ultrasounds or anything to 'prove' the baby is mine.

Who issues the birth certificate?

I have a horror of the bureaucracy and do not want to have missed something that I end up needing.
post #1753 of 1777

hi havent been here in a while i live in the golan so "near" tverya.  as for homebirth your midwife should explain all this stuff to you.  but from what i remmber, she writes up something and then a dr has to check the baby within 24 hrs and write something up as well then you go to misrad hpnim and they issue the mispar zehut and stuff it is pretty low key.

 

btw i am mom to a 7 1/2 and almost 5 yr old girls and an almost 2 y.o. boy.  BARUCH HASHEM!!!!!!!!

post #1754 of 1777

Yeah, the midwife has confirmed that I only need her 'ishur'. I do not need to see a paediatrician to register the baby. And Misrad Hapnim in my city does not ask for ultrasound.

 

I got freaked out reading about a story with an UP, where Misrad Hapnim ordered genetic testing on the mother to ensure it was her child.

post #1755 of 1777

Hi ladies!  My LO and I will be travelling to Israel for most of January-early February, and I have a few questions.  If someone could respond either here or through a PM, I'd be much obliged!

 

Can someone explain to me what the climate is like towards extended BF?  My son will be two and a half, and although I have no problem with NIP, I'd just kind of like to know what I'm getting into, and in regards to how "socially acceptable" it may be.

 

I'll be staying mainly in Tel Aviv near the beach (Ben Yehuda and Allenby), and will have mostly unoccupied days.  Does anyone have playground/activity reccomendations for that area?

 

I know I had more question's, but they're slipping my mind ATM!

 

Thanks!

post #1756 of 1777

I have had various reactions (DD is 2). My caretaker is against it, she thinks it is more for me and I am just spoiling DD. Most of my co-workers are very positive and supportive, especially the men, surprisingly. I have never had any problem in public, not that I would mind or care!

 

As for places to visit - what did you have in mind? Every neighborhood had a little park with a slid and swing combo. Most hotels have playrooms. What exactly did you have in mind?

 

Have a great stay!

post #1757 of 1777

Where is Deena Zimmerman located?   I am also looking for a pediatrician that supports/gives advise with delayed/no vaccines and one who is comfortable in English.  I am on Meuhedet and live in Efrat so prefer someone in the Jerusalem area but if need be will travel.

post #1758 of 1777
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Originally Posted by jul511riv View Post

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Originally Posted by LNT View Post
Hi Everyone


We are relatively new olim (made Aliyah last April 2009, although do not speak any hebrew yet whatsoever!!). My first born is 15 months old and I am now looking for a doctor who is of the selective and delayed vaccination type and I am finding it almost impossible to find one! I really do not want to go to the drop of milk/tipat halav as I hear they are really pro-vaccine and I would love to have a doctor who would work with us (rather than against our vaccine choices). We currently live in the Tel Aviv area (moving to a moshav in the Ayalon Valley near Latrun junction in September) but will travel ANYWHERE to get a doctor who is a pro selective and delayed vaccine doctor!!! Please help!!! Am 8 and 1/2 months pregnant with second baby and really would like to have this sorted out before new baby arrives!!! Thank you for any and all information!!!!
Deena Zimmerman...Maccabi. Shes not soooo far from you.


Where is Deena Zimmerman located?   I am also looking for a pediatrician that supports/gives advise with delayed/no vaccines and one who is comfortable in English.  I am on Meuhedet and live in Efrat so prefer someone in the Jerusalem area but if need be will travel.

post #1759 of 1777


Hello-



   I recently joined MdC and i just found this forum today. I moved here 5.5 years ago, am married to a sabra and expecting a baby boy any day now. Unfortunatly what should be a joyous time for DH and I has become a time of real stress and turmoil and i could use the advice of people that live in Israel, which is why i am posting this here rather than on another forum.



 



After a lot of careful and thoughtful consideration, DH and I decided not to prefrom brit milah on our son after he is born. DH comes from a not very religous family. I didnt grow up in a particularly obsevant houshold either, but i was always proud of my judaism and have enjoyed the traditions. both DH and I are athiest (but with appreciation for heritage and history). When we told his family there would be no brit, they freaked. MIL tried to persuade us with a lot of arguments that just didnt hold any wieght as far as both of us are concerned. she us unhappy about our choice, but she is willing to try to accept and move on (although i doubt the matter will be dropped completely). DH's father on the other hand (who in general is rather irational) insists that the boy wont be jewish, despite the obvious statement that what makes a jew is being born from a jewish woman. He kept saying that we are going to raise him christian (even though DH pointed out that we are atheist) he than said that DH is betraying him and he will not come to see the baby when he is born! An uncle even tried to change DH's mind, and when non of his reasoning held up to the arguments he decided to threaten DH that some family will cut him off (im not sure if that included said uncle)



does anyone have any advice for dealing with this type of situation? It's been pretty rough on DH and myself.
Edited by Rebelima - 12/23/10 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by sondacop View Post

I have had various reactions (DD is 2). My caretaker is against it, she thinks it is more for me and I am just spoiling DD. Most of my co-workers are very positive and supportive, especially the men, surprisingly. I have never had any problem in public, not that I would mind or care!

 

As for places to visit - what did you have in mind? Every neighborhood had a little park with a slid and swing combo. Most hotels have playrooms. What exactly did you have in mind?

 

Have a great stay!



Thanks for your input!

 

We'll be staying with my sister who works during the day, so basically I'm just looking for "stuff" to do with a two year old.  I'm not new to Israel (have visited over ten times), so I'm not really looking for touristy things, just you know, activities I suppose.

 

I will also be in Jerusalem and travelling around with a friend for a bit, but will definitely have quite a few boring days in T.A.!

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