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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi all,

Dh and I are still a year or so away from TTC, but I've been doing a lot of reading about homebirths and would really like us to seriously consider it. This will be DH's second birth - he has a daughter from his previous marriage. The ex-wife was pretty high risk - Type 1 diabetes and was hospitalized at some point during the pregnancy for complications.

His first complaint is that not all midwives necessarily believe in the midwife model of care, just as not all docs believe in the medical model of care. I'll give him that, but he won't buy into my argument that we're more likely to get a midwife who DOES practice the midwife, woman-centered, natural event model of care than we are to get a doc who believes and practices this way.

I'm also trying to get him to understand the importance of seeing one person all the way through the pregnancy, labor and delivery, rather than how I have heard it works with the docs. My friends who have OB's are forced to see 3 or 4 different docs for their prenatal visits, b/c the OB group won't guarantee that a particular doc will be available to deliver a baby. He doesn't understand why that would matter. And although we haven't talked in depth about it, doesn't seem to understand that I would just prefer having a relationship with the person who is involved with this. Same reason we see the same dentist on a regular basis and the same reason we see the same counselor.

Also his main argument seems to be - "well, delivering in a hospital must be better and safer, otherwise things wouldn't have changed over the years. And since most people deliver in hospitals, that must make it better."

He tends to be very open minded, and I'm not sure where the resistance is coming from. I've convinced him to read Baby Catcher, which I just finished. And I have some readings from school that talk about the politics and economics of how birthing shifted from home to hospital in the first place.

He also argues that obviously the statistics on the safety of home-births are slanted b/c they are posted/researched by midwife/homebirth advocacy groups. He says all the midwives he and his previous wife talked to were hippies who were too willing to take risks.

Any other books people can recommend or tactics to help him understand why this would be important to me? Sorry this is soo long. We just had our first real conversation about this last night and I was actually surprised about how against it he seemed. Or more so about how normal he thought hospital births were.

Kristi
post #2 of 13
Thread Starter 
Ooops - just saw the earlier thread on books/articles etc. Guess I just needed to rant for a minute. Sorry. I also just realized that he probably saw the ER last week with the homebirth gone bad.
post #3 of 13
Get the Bradley Method book. If nothing else, this book should convince him
post #4 of 13
Kristi,

I'm in the same spot as you. My dh's mom had six kids and was knocked out with that "Twilight" stuff for all of them. She was amazed when I gave birth with only a shot of Nubane that didn't take!

I'm really wanting a home birth. I'm compiling information and thinking about it... dreaming. I'm hoping to discuss it with him more after our u/s in two weeks. I'm hoping that he'll see the healthy baby and will be more easily swayed. Plus, I'm meeting the midwife next week (my friend/coworker is taking me along on her prenatal visit!), so I can rave about her too!

here's the links I've compiled so far:
http://www.kings-realm.net/hand/links.htm
http://www.texas-midwife.com/ishomebirthsafe.htm
http://gentlebirth.org/archives/prntshar.html
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/5510/studies.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~eaglefalc...irthoprah.html

Also, I suggest reading "the thinking woman's guide to a better birth". It's biased in favor of natural birth, BUT she shows studies to prove the safety of natural/home/birthing center birth!

Good luck to you and wish me luck too!
post #5 of 13
Find him the studies that were published in JAMA and the New England Journal of Medicine. The studies he's referring to are far from slanted and/or published only by midwives and advocacy groups.

Good luck!
post #6 of 13
"Babycatcher" should cure him!

As you say, his main argument is that hospital birth is normal, therefore it is safer. After reading Peggy Vincent's perspective, where HOME births are her norm, he'll see that they're safe.
post #7 of 13
I also liked "A Good Birth, A Safe Birth" which gives credence to homebirthing and natural birthing in general. Dr. Sears' Birth Book is a pretty popular book that makes home birth seem quite responsible and normal as well, if I remember correctly.
post #8 of 13
*sorry, posted twice
post #9 of 13
maybe schedule a meeting with a midwife or two?

it's great that you're thinking about this so far ahead of time!! i interviewed several midwives before making a decision.. i was already pregnant, but i would think they'd be willing to meet with you even if you're a year away from TTC? unless they're really busy?

your dh might have a change of mind once he talks to a midwife - they're pretty good at talking to nervous parents-to-be

and this is a generalization, but all the midwives i've met are very nice, down to earth, caring women..

best of luck!!

what your dh thinks matters of course, but this is your body! and you'll be the one birthing the baby! shouldn't you be in the place where you feel safer, more secure and more powerful in your own body?
post #10 of 13
Women are mammals. Logic and common sense should tell him that complications are more likely to occur in an unfamiliar, inherently stressful environment (ie, the hospital). Study after study has been conducted where mammals - ie, deer, rabbits, etc. - were watched and prodded in unfamiliar environments while trying to give birth. The animals could not open under the stressful circumstances to let their babies out.... if the mammilian brain tells the mother that her environment is unfamiliar and possibly dangerous, labors can stop, slow down, become erratic, even create complications such as fetal distress and the need for invasive medical procedures, which are high risk in and of themselves. No amount of research should need to convince him of what mother nature has told us about ourselves and other mammals since the dawn of time. It is very difficult to remain calm and relaxed enough to have a stress-free birth in a hospital environment.
post #11 of 13
Bradley classes might help. (You'd have to talk to the instructor first and find out which way she leans.) I can't do a homebirth because of heart and circulatory problems that could make it dangerous, but DH really wishes we could, and that's after 4 weeks of Bradley classes. At first, he wanted to know why we couldn't just do Lamaze like "everybody else" does. (The Lamaze chapter of Natural Childbirth the Bradley Way made him understand why.) He also said that hospital procedures must be safe since "everybody does them." Now he's spending his free time surfing the Internet for journal articles he can show the doctor while I'm in labor if the doctor wants to use an unnecessary intervention.
post #12 of 13
My friend had this same issue with her dh until they met with about 6 different midwives and got to see a full spectrum of how differently they all work as well as how regulated and well trained they all were. They had with them for all of their meetings a list of questions and concerns for the midwives to answere and eventually picked the one they were BOTH happy with. He actually was more comferatable with a midwife who had previously been a nurse practitioner, but who had a higher transport record than all of the rest. Needless to say their homebirth went great with the midwife they chose and so did their second.

Also with the growing number of homebirths in this country the OB's and CNM's are feeling the competition and with that they are quicker than ever to jump on, report and help with the delicensing of any poorly trained or risk taking midwife that exists.
And one more thing to remember is that men hear the horror stories of births and are just as scarred from this societies biased beliefs on birth being a medical process rather than a natural one. Maybe he just needs to read and hear about some real posative experiances. Best of luck!!
post #13 of 13
I think what Candiland is saying is right on the mark. I would suggest getting some of Michel Odent's books and published papers (Midwifery Today publishes articles by him that you may be able to find online) to back up your feelings that home is a safer and better place for you to birth. Michel is a well respected french dr. (and a guy) who ran a birth center in the french countryside. he talks alot about the brain and brain chemistry and how birth is very much keyed into the fight or flight response. He believes that quiet, darkness, and a minimum of people are the ideal for birthing. How often do you find that in the hospital anyway?

-Lau
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