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post #1 of 31
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So my husband and I have shared a small car for 3 years. It's been great -- gas hikes haven't crimped our budget too bad, we hardly ever have parking problems, and we're never the party car since there's only 2 seats. It's just the right arrangement for a couple living downtown who occassionally makes trips with dogs -- with us, the two hairy beasts, and two suitcases, it's tight, but workable.

And despite the fact that we'd been having unprotected (and barely calendar-charted) sex for the past two years, we thought this transportation system would get us by just fine for the rest of our lives.

So imagine our surprise when we both realized, here at 5 months, that it is actually not going to get us by at all. In fact, car seats are massive things that actually require back seats, and babies don't mix well with car-trip-exuberant big dogs.

It was like one minute we were standing around with all the simple-living folks, bashing Starbucks and shaking our heads in dissappointment over all the W stickers, and the next minute we were suddenly having real discussions about station wagon safety features and whether or not accepting my mom's beat-up SUV, which she was offering for free, made us bad people or not. (I mean, where would I put my "tree hugger" bumper sticker on a Jeep Cherokee?)

This is all so new to me. And it feels like the manifestation of everything that's going to change in my life because of this baby. Is anyone else having mixed feelings about the inevitable entering of the land of the family car?

(No offense to those already happily residing there -- it does seem I'll be joining you soon enough. I may just be the merest bit homesick...)
post #2 of 31
Gosh - living in NYC this isn't an issu e- we don't own a car at all. But some of the more crunchy families I know have gotten volvo or subaru station wagons, so it's not the SUV route and they are still safe cars and get decent mileage (from what I hear), so what do you think of something like that? And actually, many of those families have dogs and put up the thing in the back to keep the dog away from the kids.

Then again, I definitely know very little about this, so what I'm saying may make no sense at all.
post #3 of 31
Wow can I relate! dh & I have gone in circles on this subject for almost a year! We finally settled and both feel great about our choice! I went from a nissan altima( great car & milage! He will now drive it ) to a 2000 Subaru Forester. We bought it from a littel old man so it had only 21,000 miles on it! I absolutley love the car! I think that it will be great for the second baby & the AWD is a great feature in the Colorado snow! The gas milage is not quite as great as the altilma, but compared to the SUV's that we were sick about even conidering ( for both price, and princpal) I think it is a great compromise! Oh yeah - I love being a little higher up, but not towering over all the other cars, and the trunk area is wonderful!!!!
I just couldn't bring myself to step up to a mini van yet....It is a self image thing I know, but I couldn't get over it.
Good Luck with whatever you decide!!
Laura
post #4 of 31
We recently traded in our little bench seat truck for a Volkswagon Golf (4 door with a back seat), and spend weeks with yuppie angst. Though the car isn't the typical family car, it seems to be the car of choice among a certain demographic here....

I miss my truck. I miss just throwing whatever in the back of it and not worrying about getting carpet wet/stained/whatever. I miss knowing that I can sleep in the back under the canopy in the rain and be very dry and relatively comfortable. I miss the "rawness" of driving a stick-shift and a vehicle with no frills. Our new car gets a little bit better gas mileage than the truck- but it also has all kinds of extras I swore I'd never get. Power everything, automatic transmission, air conditioning (!). Though I am starting to enjoy the sunroof...

Damn, I wish I could have afforded to buy a new prius or other hybrid. And I wish I didn't feel so much lifestyle angst about a freakin car!! On the other hand, the dealer tried to talk me in to a different car because there would be more room in the trunk for an SUV-sized stroller- I have to remind myself that just because I drive this car sometimes doesn't mean that I stop living by the values I care about, and will become the dreaded yuppie mama.
post #5 of 31
I miss the days of 4 door car!

All we can fit into now is a large SUV or minivan or a full size, 6 seater truck...

I am envious (in ways, wouldn't trade my kids for anything) of you and your small 4 door- 4 to 5 seater cars!
post #6 of 31
We love our Honda Accord for safety, space, gas mileage, and environmental reasons. Many of our friends have the subarus, volvo wagons, and honda hybrids or SUVs.
post #7 of 31
Frustrating, isn't it? No one makes a car that fits both my ethics and my practical needs for space ("need" being rather subjective, of course). We have a Subaru wagon right now, which is really getting up there in mileage, and have been trying to figure out what to get next. I wish someone was making a hybrid SUV other than Ford (which is smaller than our Subaru as far as interior room), or a hybrid minivan. Anyway, after much wailing and gnashing of teeth, we've pretty much decided on a Honda Pilot, which is a mid-size SUV. The mileage is only about 2 mpg less than the Subaru we have now (as well as the minivans we've checked out). With soon to be 2 carseats, a sedan doesn't really cut it for us, mainly because we live in a rural area, and when we go gathering groceries, we can't just zip down to the local store for a few items, it's an excursion, so we try to do it in one fell swoop. That means filling up every nook and cranny of the vehicle. I salve my conscience by reminding myself we're not commuting daily (I'm a SAHM, hubby's work is home-based), and that we try hard to live ecologically in other ways. Making excuses, maybe, but it usually makes me feel better about being on the verge of purchasing an evil SUV.
post #8 of 31
we are a car free family, though my sister has a small 2 door car that she derives us around in once in a while.. i dont drive and like the fact that i dont. but my sister and i joke about needing a bigger car now that baby is on the way :LOL
post #9 of 31
Another Subaru driver here...the Outback. It has been great for us with a big dog and lots of camping. We thought about it being roomy enough for kids when we bought it two years ago so there's no need for us to worry about upgrading now. It is super safe and has lots of room while remaing good on gas mileage.

It handles well, even fjording creeks in the mountains. We went camping on a remote mountain with family a while back. The have the monster big SUV, which got stuck in the mud and wouldn't make it up the mountain! The AWD Subaru cruised up, no problem. I am so not into automobiles but would highly recomend the Subaru Outback...or any Subaru wagon if you need a little more space.

MelW- Wouldn't it have been funny to tell the salesperson that your sling (vs. big honkin' stroller) would fit in the backseat quite nicely?
post #10 of 31
We've have TWO subaru wagons -- both are the years right before "Outback" 95, or so. And they are basically the same as the outback, maybe not quite so much clearance. One has 140,000 miles and the other 220,000 and still run great.
post #11 of 31
We're moving up to a 7 seater- our little Nissan Micra, which handles two children, a springer spaniel and up to a week's luggage quite nicely, doesn't have enough seatbelts and I'm too fat non-pregnant to squish in the back with the boys. So, it's going to be a used, probably 8-9 year old, Renault Espace unless we win the lottery in the next few months. Whilst I love the idea of something funky and old, like a Landrover, it's just not justifiable.
If you're making the jump to a family car, though, I'd look at Volvo or Audi, if they're available over there. They come out top of every safety survey over here, and they keep the retail value well. I learnt to drive in an old Volvo 240, and loved it...
post #12 of 31
It's so funny that I came upon this thread. I was just telling DH about another group I belong to, and how all the women there seem to have big honkin' SUVs. I think I'm the only one who doesn't, and who doesn't want one.

Part of our unofficial marriage vows to each other was to promise to never, ever get a minivan or SUV . We're sticking to that. I managed to go 33 years without owning a car, and still kind of resent having one. We drive a VW Golf right now and love it, but it will be tight for two carseats. I'm not at all interested in cars, so DH is researching this one. I think he's looking at the Suburus, too, as well as a VW Passat.

The whole thing about needing a monster vehicle to house your monster stroller perplexes me. Why do you need to buy the monster stroller, is my question? Why not get a less expensive, more lighweight stroller (or use a sling!). Last year our neighbours, who we thought were fairly crunchy, came home one week with a new baby, and the next with a big SUV. They said they needed the extra space for the baby. I said, "You just had the one baby, right? Not a hockey team?". I guess I just really hate this trend of supersizing everything from food to cars to baby gear.
post #13 of 31
We just bought a Toyota Sienna! :LOL Like, less than 3 weeks ago. My little Saturn finally bit the big one in a big way. Actually it died *suddenly* & we live up in the hills where buses only run 4 times on Tuesdays & Thursdays, so we freaked out & ran out & bought a minivan. I love the thing, OMG. We laugh at ourselves allllll the time for driving a big 'ol whale of a mama-mobile. BUT, we look like big goth freaks & blast Skinny Puppy on the stereo so we're still cool, right? :LOL We've got our 3rd on the way, plus I babysit the neighbor's one year old, we already knew that we wouldn't be able to fit in the Saturn. I couldn't even FIT a backwards facing car seat in there without folding the front seat forward (which was long broken & permanently stuck in the farthest back position, ha!) AND the base of the seat covered the next seat belt! It was ridiculous. Now we have awesome space. Hooray!
post #14 of 31
If you are only having one child right now, you don't need to get something huge.

Vehicles without trunks are inherently dangerous because the luggage (and anything else) can go flying in an accident.

My father had a minivan for a while and I would only drive it if I cleaned it out first. Not that he was a slob. He isn't. It is just that anything loose had a way of finding the space under the brake pedal...and then my temper would flare while I was busy doing a manual downshift on his automatic transmission and I would swear a blue streak and he would get annoyed that I had done a manual shift and worry that I had hurt the transmission and I would kick the water bottle or whatever out from under the pedal and then castigate him for wasting resources by buying bottled water and he would get defensive about the water bottles and we would have just a FABULOUS time driving together. (It was made extra special by me being certain to nod off at the wheel if I listened to his Carlos Nakai tapes so I insisted that Pure Prairie League and The Eagles were available, too. :LOL)

We have a 20 year old Mercedes diesel sedan that we run on veggie oil. 4-door. Gets 32 miles to the gallon of fuel -- petro or veggie. Mind you, we only have one child and one dog and that's all there's going to be, too. We also only use it if going out of town. Otherwise, I've got the whole NYC transit system. http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm

You might want to consider changing where you live to find a house or apartment in a more walkable area to limit your need to spend time in a car. Check out IdentityCrisisMama's TAO thread about that topic.

post #15 of 31
Ugh. I went through that going from my tiny little cars I prefer (I hate to drive so the smaller and more parallel-parking-friendly the better) to my Mommy car, my used Volvo 4 door. So imagine my shock and dismay when I realized that 2 car seats and one booster seat are going to be tight in my back seat. So now I'm minivan shopping. Three kids in 5 years has dramatically shaken up our lives in some of the funniest ways...
post #16 of 31
We just got the Honda Odyssey in October and I LOVE it! Before that, though, I was driving my Toyota Camry with three kids in the back seat, and it was do-able. Two car seats, plus one older child in the back and we were just fine. However, after we bought the minivan, I realized how much more space I have and it's a dream. We're expecting our fourth in Dec, so we wouldn't have been able to keep it up in the Camry, though. I thought I would have a really hard time driving the minivan, but I love the fact that I'm sitting so high up and it's really pretty easy to manage. Gas prices are horrendous, though! I think that's the only downside of moving to such a big car for us.
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by purplemama
We just got the Honda Odyssey in October and I LOVE it! Before that, though, I was driving my Toyota Camry with three kids in the back seat, and it was do-able. Two car seats, plus one older child in the back and we were just fine. However, after we bought the minivan, I realized how much more space I have and it's a dream. We're expecting our fourth in Dec, so we wouldn't have been able to keep it up in the Camry, though. I thought I would have a really hard time driving the minivan, but I love the fact that I'm sitting so high up and it's really pretty easy to manage. Gas prices are horrendous, though! I think that's the only downside of moving to such a big car for us.
In the course of my minivan shopping I keep coming back to the Odyssey. I know CR just rated it top minivan.
Glad to hear it's easy to manage. That's my fear with driving something big. (I used to be a home infusion nurse and would zip around Philly in my little car parallel parking in 2 moves, but to be honest...don't think I've parallel parked once since moving to FL. Guess that's an unnecessary worry. ) Thanks for posting this... I need to go back to the Honda dealership....
post #18 of 31
Hey purplemama, whereabouts in the bay area do you live? We're in the Oakland hills.

Our 1st choice had been the Odyssey because it's one of the only new vans you can get in black! :LOL We were all "Duuude, if we're gonna be driving a minivan, at LEAST it's gotta be black!!" But it turned out that only the top of the line ones come in black & that was out of our price range, so we went with the Toyota Sienna. Ours is dark gray, it's totally a big gray whale which is what I call it all the time.

Yeah, gas prices are KILLING me. Wow.
post #19 of 31

same boat (well, auto)

i was glad to come by this thread, b/c this has been weighing on my mind. i have 2 boys and 1 stepdaugher. until now, we have been fine in my Saab (which is really not that great on gas but not as bad as a minivan or SUV). With the baby coming, there is no way we can do this. 3 kids in the back of my car is cramped; 4 is impossible. even a carseat with my other 2 sons is difficult.
so what to do?
isn't there anything out there for familes with 4 kids other than an SUV or minivan? i too have sworn never to buy either.
my husband drives my old VW Jetta and that is even smaller than my Saab.
anyone have suggestions??
i cant buy a Ford...long story.
Thanks
Rach
post #20 of 31
They need to make a bumper sticker that reads: I'm really a tree hugger but my mom offered this car for free so at least its recycling and my kid can ride safely in her car seat.

But where to find it?
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