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post #1 of 32
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My daughter is 2 1/2. She began talking at a very early age. Began speaking in sentences (and paragraphs) at a very early age. In fact, she pretty much hit every milestone early. Except for the potty and sleeping, we are still waiting on those

Anyway, in addition to the speaking, she seems very intelligent. I have had many people comment on this. I have read about children on here who do more than her, but I suspect if I worked with her a lot more, she could to. For instance, her memory is amazing. She can remember a tiny detail from 6 months ago of something she saw once. She can count in German, Spanish and English and knows about 15 spanish words. SHe knows about 6 signs, would probably know more, but we stopped working on them becasue she spoke so early and there was no longer a need for them.

She loves to learn. Loves to do 'workbooks' that I pick up for her. Loves to learn to spell words and practice phonics. Loves all books, wants me to read to her all day long. She can spell her name, mom, dad, and cat. Like I said I know some kids at this age can read and I suspect if I worked with her more, she could to. She picked up mom, dad, and cat in one afternoon we worked together.

She knows all body parts, all colors and shapes. All animals and sounds.

We are concerned that at this rate, she'll be bored to death in kindergarden.

She is also very sensitive. I thought I read somewhere that being sensitive emotionally is a sign of being gifted? She is constantly hugging and saying she loves me.....then again, she gets that from me all day.

Just wondering if these are all signs of a bright child? or what makes them gifted? and if they are, do you do anything differently at this age?
post #2 of 32
I was tested in 3rd grade, that's how my parents "found out" per se. If you honestly think she's gifted, you can get her tested when she's older (like kindergarden or elementary school). For now, just keep nurturing her thirst for knowledge and encouraging her curiosity about life.
post #3 of 32
Many people define "gifted" as two standard deviations or more above the norm on IQ testing, so an IQ of 130 or above would qualify.

Your daughter sounds very bright.
post #4 of 32
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Originally Posted by Finch
If you honestly think she's gifted, you can get her tested when she's older (like kindergarden or elementary school). For now, just keep nurturing her thirst for knowledge and encouraging her curiosity about life.
THis is the approach we have been taking. No sense doing any testing now...she has her whole life ahead of her! Not to mention, put in front of a stranger in a strange surrounding and she probably would not even say her name!
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What Are You Doing With Your Gifted Toddlers?

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Originally Posted by allismom
THis is the approach we have been taking. No sense doing any testing now...she has her whole life ahead of her! Not to mention, put in front of a stranger in a strange surrounding and she probably would not even say her name!
My dd is gifted, I know it without any tests. I am a bit concerned b/c I read on a nice gifted webpage about that we should be providing many varied activities and helping her to function at her intelligence level. B/c I am gifted and my dh is gifted and also I suspect our son, her twin brother, to be gifted, the advice to provide many varied activities leaves me horrorfied that we are shortchanging our twins giftedness, no matter that they are 24 mos old. But I know what you mean about shyness, b/c my dd won't say a peep in front of anyone she doesn't know and love deeply. My ds is more of a guy, he justs plows right in and couldn't care who it is as long as it's some cute girl/woman paying attention to him. I have decided last week to operate on the assumption that both of our twins are gifted and start doing all the things that have been recommended for gifted toddlers. I figure that I will hate myself down the road if now I ignore their intense need to learn and experience life fully. It's a lot of hard work to research all the programs and stuff going on at the library/zoo/aquarium/church/temple/gyms/mall/etc... but I figure I only have these 2 and I'm not doing it again (having children) so this is the only time I have to deal with 2 yo's giftedness. Next year it will be 3 yo giftedness and the list of stuff I should be doing with them THEN. I read about having native speakers come to play with your children, such as a Japanese girl, etc.. and the children picking up the language in a few sessions and loving it. I have decided to start doing more of that kind of fun activities with the twins, such as we always wanted them to learn German, my dh's native tongue, but abandoned the idea when the twins developed their own language and I was panicked about their ability to learn/speak English before school started and they were labelled slow. It seems there is no way that could happen at this point, so I am letting go of that particular nighttime worry and have picked up this new worry that I'm not doing enough for them intellectually. We do the toddler fun stuff like swimming and gym, but no formal but fun learning activities and I'm thinking about starting that. I would like to hear what other mothers have to say about things 2 year olds like to do that would help them experience their world more. I was a bit intimidated when I found out one of you had a butterfly house and actually grew caterpillars to put into it. I never do that kind of stuff and I am kicking myself for being so lax about the twins' talents and needs! I believe this to be my own perfectionism, but at some point, I also believe it is really good to do that sort of stuff with toddlers, kwim? I'm just not knowledgeable about babies/toddlers/kids at all, these being my only kids at 40 I never had kids around me my whole adult life. Well, what other things should I be getting my lazy butt in gear to do with these little geniuses?? Any and all suggestions and what you gals do with your kids would be great. I am a sponge. TIA.
post #6 of 32
I would highly recommend reading the books Coloring Outside the Lines: Raising a Smarter Kid by Breaking All the Rules
by Roger C. Schank. He argues that we should not see our children as receptacles for information; but rather encourage their own loves, let them see us learning, encourage independent thinking and problem solving, and make sure they have experiences that break their previous preconceptions of how the world works. It's a great book and makes you really see the problem with a lot of "gifted" education as it exists today, all about scores and grades and competition...it's more important that a child sees the world in a unique way and is experimenting with new inquisitive approaches than it is that they know the alphabet by a certain age or can read by another, or even knows all the continents by four. My daughter did - because she memorized a song about them - but it doesn't really mean as much as cultural experiences that make her reevaluate the way she thinks life "is" for everyone. I.e. some people eat snails. Why? How do they eat them? Why don't we? etc. That's how most scientific and other discoveries were/are made - what is the anomaly? Why? How does this explain a larger picture?

I would not be concerned about letting a child down intellectually (esp a 2 year old) - if they're really gifted, if you make open-ended learning experiences available, they'll amaze you with what they figure out on their own - really the most important thing, more than what we can teach them. My daughter figured out fractions on her own through us cooking together - that sort of thing. And then she wanted to know more - so I was able to talk with her more about that, after she'd already grasped the concept on her own.

My daughter didn't talk in understandable (to the outside world) sentences until 2.5 and was behind in most milestones, to the point of being referred to a speech therapist. Now she reads grade-school comic books like there's no tomorrow (she's five), but she doesn't like chapter books, ever (not enough art, she says ). So I guess I'm a little suspicious of many of these gifted milestones that are published.

About school - I'm really picky due to the experiences I've had. We decided for the K year that we would stay with Montessori, where she has a lot of freedom, no rewards/punishments, and it seems to work well for her learning style. I wouldn't worry about being bored the K year yet - you might luck out with a really great teacher!
post #7 of 32
First of all there are so many types of gifts.
That often trying to benchmark, or 'prove' that because a child can do x,y,z its very counterproductive to the child's self image if these gifts become what I call the 'trained seal routine'. I would not encourage her to do these things for others, unless she wants to (speaking from experience

I was gifted, my husband profoundly gifted, my first child is very bright, the middle one I suspect is gifted, the baby too young.

They say usually the parents 'know'. If you provide a stimulating environment, and don't overdo the book stuff - so that she won't be that much ahead when she goes to school. Provide her with tonnes of a breadth of experiences, cook with her, teach her to sew, crafts, get a small pet, etc.

Like I said there is more than intellectually gifted, but it is the easiest to measure or prove. There are also kids who do things very early who aren't 'gifted' at all (like autistic kids).

We are concerned that at this rate, she'll be bored to death in kindergarden.
=My first child is very bright A+ but really still at her grade level, although she finds the work easy she really likes to help her teacher or help other kids with their work. Me I was bored to tears the whole way through. But I read the Bobsy Twins before the age of three, and had finished Nancy Drew (the series) before the end of kindergarten.

There's a yahoo group for gifted toddlers. But don't get intimidated by some of the kids if they seem really really advanced. Not all gifted kids fit the classic profile at all. Some gifts take a while to come out most artistic gifts do...

But they usually say kids who start out early don't level out they keep going.
I am now debating on starting my son early to school he's 3 we start at four, but there's more than what he can 'do' to think about but emmotional maturity, the other children, social interactions, etc. He was a very early at everything - except toilet training lol. He crawled at 4 months even, walked at 7.5 and could run without falling at 8 months, he started talking at 5 months, real words...he was very far advanced compared to bright kids the same age who were ahead of their age group.

You can always get her tested although....that doesn't always mean much, it will tell you if the child is gifted but some kids hate testing, some kids gifts aren't seen through the tests.

Just love her and accept her for who she is.
She might be gifted, she might be bright, she might be a genius.
But she also needs to feel normal...
post #8 of 32
My daughter (now 8) was the same way, she was my first, so to me she was "normal" but everyone would tell me "I can't believe she is so young (14 mos) and putting together complete sentences" and as she got older, same type of comments. She always gets along with older kids, when she went to kindergarden, her teacher put her with the first graders for reading I was told she was too advanced to be in KG for reading..Same in first grade. She took a "Tera Nova" exam last school year and guess what!!! She scored 98th in the nation on the exam for her level, I was told she was indeed gifted and will be placed appropriately this upcoming school year...Who knew!! I say just do what your doing, and as long as she thinks she is "normal" it wont be much of a "pressure" to her. I encourage her strengths (reading, math). She does have her issues with "getting" along with her own age children..She would rather play on the computer or read rather than play with Barbies...
post #9 of 32
Yeah, like a PP said, you just KNOW.
All my kids (well, sans the babe obviously...) were talking in sentences (2 or 3 word ones) at a year, and had over 100 words easily. They even had approx. 20 German words. They also developed motor skills VERY early. (Except DS2...which is a whole other topic...) My 4 month old has been sitting for a month. But, that's not gifted, lol...what IS gifted is that she can already say a few words & says them consistantly. DS1 did K, 1st & half of 2nd grade before I started HSing...he did terribly! The teachers (all of them) told me is among the brightest children they have seen, in K he was multiplying & dividing...however he would NOT preform for them! When he had to do work or tests he would say "This is stupid, I know this & I'm NOT doing it!" He meant it. They didn't like that he wouldn't jump through hoops and that he was a bit sassy. He struggled with reading in school, too. After I pulled him & started unschooling he taught himself to read in a couple of months. He is very bright! WHEN LEFT ALONE! DS2 has been reading since 5 & thrived in school because he seems to have no internal motivation but the school thinks he's gifted! DD1 is 4 and is reading simple words & is MASTERING signs, she LITERALLY helps me!
More later...
post #10 of 32
I'm confused. I hold the belief that every child is gifted.

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post #11 of 32
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I'm confused. I hold the belief that every child is gifted.

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Heretic, meet stake. Stake, meet heretic. Have fun!
post #12 of 32
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We are concerned that at this rate, she'll be bored to death in kindergarden.
Kindergarten is more for learning "how to be at school" and how to get along with other little kids than for rigorous academics. You said that she's "sensitive," so I'd say that even if she doesn't need the ABC practice, she'll probably need the Other Little Kid practice? KWIM?

I only say this because I was significantly "ahead" when I was a small child and always still the youngest in class, I blasted through the kindergarten "workbook" on my own in the first two weeks of school. But, I wasn't bored. What I really remember getting out of kindergarten was 1) the Christmas pageant, 2) growing "Space Rocks" as a class, and 3) figuring out what to do on the playground and how to "make friends."
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Heretic, meet stake. Stake, meet heretic. Have fun!
OMG, flyingspaghettimama!!!! : : : : : :

You are so bad!
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I have decided last week to operate on the assumption that both of our twins are gifted and start doing all the things that have been recommended for gifted toddlers. I figure that I will hate myself down the road if now I ignore their intense need to learn and experience life fully. It's a lot of hard work to research all the programs and stuff going on at the library/zoo/aquarium/church/temple/gyms/mall/etc... Well, what other things should I be getting my lazy butt in gear to do with these little geniuses?? Any and all suggestions and what you gals do with your kids would be great. I am a sponge. TIA.
My advice would be to relax. The biggest gift you can give kids is time to play. There is no need to hustle them all over town for one program after another or feel like you need to do buy anything special to meet their needs. In my opinion what kids need most in the early years is: time in nature, gross motor play, sensory experiences - playdough, mud, etc., imaginary playtime, being read to, etc. So take a walk, fold the laundry, toss a ball, play puppets and enjoy life.
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Kindergarten is more for learning "how to be at school" and how to get along with other little kids than for rigorous academics. You said that she's "sensitive," so I'd say that even if she doesn't need the ABC practice, she'll probably need the Other Little Kid practice? KWIM?

I only say this because I was significantly "ahead" when I was a small child and always still the youngest in class, I blasted through the kindergarten "workbook" on my own in the first two weeks of school. But, I wasn't bored. What I really remember getting out of kindergarten was 1) the Christmas pageant, 2) growing "Space Rocks" as a class, and 3) figuring out what to do on the playground and how to "make friends."
I agree that should be what kindergarten is about, but sadly that isn't the case in a lot of schools anymore. There is testing pressure early and gone are a lot of the things we long associated with kindergarten (building with blocks, etc.) There is an article about this in the online New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/26/ed...a8298b&ei=5070
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Heretic, meet stake. Stake, meet heretic. Have fun!
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by mountain
I'm confused. I hold the belief that every child is gifted.

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I think your difinition of gifted is different from the the term gifted on this board.


[/QUOTE=therdogg]Many people define "gifted" as two standard deviations or more above the norm on IQ testing, so an IQ of 130 or above would qualify.[/QUOTE]

Not all children meet this definition...those that do are what this board is about.
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I think this forum could benefit from a sticky note, giving a brief description of the forum's purpose and a few helpful links.
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I think this forum could benefit from a sticky note, giving a brief description of the forum's purpose and a few helpful links.
absolutely
post #20 of 32
I've wondered if I'm being a psychotic over-reacting egomaniacal parent imagining that my 15 month old is gifted. I have a 2 1/2 yr old, and while she seems to be quite bright, I haven't ever thought of her as gifted, really. My husband and i both tested as gifted in school. But my 15 month old dd has been using full sentences since 11 months. "I'm reading a book." She hides things, then says, "Where is it? It hiding!" Then uncovers it and says, "Boo!" (her made up version of peek a boo). She's been walking since 9 months, can walk backwards, draw circles (and identify them), string beads, spin in a circle, and get both feet off the ground when jumping. She picks up on words and concepts very quickly (as in when used once). She does pretty complex pretend play. "Going to store!" Pretends to cook, feed the baby, says it's sleeping, things like that. I dunno. I feel like she's too young to even be thinking about things like this, but none of the child development books seem to apply at all to her. And I feel kinda embarrassed when we're around our friends who have babies the same age as her. They're clearly babies, and she clearly is not. Maybe it's just bc she has an older sister to copy? But one of our other friends has a dd the same age as my older one too, and her baby is not anywhere's near Catherine. It's just strange. I realized i was trying to keep her away from letters and such bc I was afraid she'd start reading at a year. When I realized that, I stopped doing it, but still, strange. I dunno if she's gifted, but the term does come to mind around her.
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