Janulicious July #3 - Page 21

[jessitron]

Oh, and Laura - great job! Go Megan!

[3_opihi]

Ohh, HAHA that is sooooo funny about the Krishna chanting, Kathy :LOL

I also found three to be the most diffucult age. Lots of whining, and borderline OCD behavior. For instance, if the glass of water wasn't the right color and/or filled to the correct amount -whew, watch out! Mental breakdown time :LOL Or if his potato was touching his veggies on the plate, ack! more mental breakdown. Once they get to about 4 they really mellow out, then at about 4 1/2 they get really rowdy (for boys anyways, not sure what girls do but I'll soon find out)

Lots to talk about today.

Catnip - I think Kaia is prolly fine, but she's your baby, and you follow your gut, and do what you feel is right, mama! I finished Mists of Avalon. OMG, it was soooo good. I was totally sad that it was finished. Have you read any of the other books from the series?

Laura- Allright!! Sounds like a good appt. and way to impress the docs!! The hip thing shouldn't be too big a bump to get over. Way to impress the docs, too! You are the breastfeeder of the year!!

Oh, on the school thing, we don't really have many charter schools in HI, the only one here is the Hawaiian immersion school. But the one thing I really like about our school, and was the main force in me sending him there was that they have a japanese immersion program, and also teach Hawaiian and music classes - very rare to get anything like that in these parts. Plus the school is small, and is the 3rd best (supposedly) on the isle. I hope it works out. I'm feeling sorta down about sending him somewhere that isn't totally meshed with my philosophy. But - I can always pull him if I need to. We'll see....

[Azreial]

3, I'm going to have to agree was worse than 2. I think 3 was the roughest year we've had so far. Mr C was an absolute doll at 2.

catnip, I'd try to give it another week also. There's a reason why they give you an average for the month.

School is a tough thing. I've notcied so many changes in Mr C since he started school He's gotten so flippy, I don't thinks its all school but it def has something to do with it. I wish I could send him to a montasorri school bu they are $$$ and way out of our budget.

Miss E has decided that she will no longer take a bottle. Does anyone has any suggestions? When I go back to work she'll have to take one as I'm gone 11hrs a day She won;t touch a sippy cup either. She was having a bottle every day-every other day and then Sunday she didn't rally want it. DH has tried a bunch of times since then and she just starts crying when he tries to feed her. We haven't changed anything the milk isn't too hot or too cold. She's also given up the bit of solids that she was eating. Same time. We've offered them to her and she just turns her head and clamps her mouth shut.

[avivaelona]

I loooooove 4 year olds. I was a pre-school teacher for a few years and that was by far my favorite age to be with.

Japhet is being really weird tonight, and last night too, he wants to go to sleep. keeps lying his head down and closing his eyes, but can't seem to doze off for more than a few seconds. He's not really upset, but something is up. Last night he eventually fell asleep for real around 9, but its 10 now and he's still doing it. I'm worried that its somehow the cloth dipes. I just got the ones I ordered, so it would be my luck if it turns out that its causing him difficulty sleeping.

I think the kelty's are neat for older kids but they look scary for an infant. What about a patapum? In pix at least they look more masculine than an ergo. I was thinking of getting one for DH to use.

I've read the mists of avalon series, none are as good as the original but they aren't bad reads either, some were better than others. I think I have most of them.

I have no clue about bottles. I hope Miss E changes her little mind again.

I always wanted to homeschool btw, I've got a degree in education and I hated school myself. My ex co-worker was in a homeschool cooperative with her daughter and I think her daughter is the neatest kid, but then we moved to a really crunchy town in this already very crunchy area, so it seems a shame not to at least give the school a chance. There are a few homeschooers in town too though so we'll see.

Today we went to the library story hour and met two goats. Japhet thought they were kind of interesting but he thought the grass was even more exciting. I don't know why I'm bothering with rice cereal and pureed food, the child obviously would just prefer to graze on our lawn.

Aviva

[Killick]

Jess - Em is totally like your friends kid. She hates being wet, except in sanctioned areas, the pool, the tub. ect. If she gets wet, she freaks. Same with being dirty. We get a bit worried about it sometimes, but I figure she will likely grow out of it.

Andy - I know that Kelty makes a pretty good backpack carrier. You might look online at REI or if you have an outdoors store near, check that out.

Kathy - I hear Em singing to herself all the time too. Lately it is about a triceratops and his many bony plates. :LOL
And how, exactly, do you make drunken noodles? Em is sensitive to sugars too. We try to make sure she eats more protein and fat than sugar. She gets mean and hyperactive when she gets too much sugar.

Michelle - . Sorry to hear that Kaia didn't gain any weight. Perhaps it is just a phase, and she will get hungry again or a growth spurt will stop.

Sheri - Probably a phase. Em used to do this. In fact, still does. Irks the hell out of me. It'll get better, I'm sure. Just don't push it though. Especially with the solids. I think the fact that I insisted she eat, even when she showed me she didn't want to has led to some of the food issues we have today. I have been much more laid back with Slim and he is much more willing to eat peacefully. Good luck mama,

Thanks for the kind words about daycare. TBH, Will is more frustrating now and I find myself resenting that I have to take him. Fortunately, the daycare is across the street, so I will go over and nurse him and spend time with him during the day. They are wonderful there. Totally loving. Only drawback is that they won't use cloth dipes. So I take him in in one, put him in the dreaded sposie when I get there, adn the put him back in a cloth dipe before we leave. Then he is in them all weekend too. Works out okay. Means less sposies for that, so that's good too.

Okay, off to bed. Things to do in the morning. Night all!

[3_opihi]

Kathy - I hear Em singing to herself all the time too. Lately it is about a triceratops and his many bony plates.

That sounds familiar...is that from Wee Sing? We have the tape around here somewhere.

[Malama]

Originally Posted by 3_opihi

That sounds familiar...is that from Wee Sing? We have the tape around here somewhere.

Oh pleeeeze... don't start me on that one. I had that whole darned tape memorized and it stuck LIKE GLUE in my head forever. really forever. I'm sure it died somewhere and I hope we don't have to resurrect it with this one. it's worse than school house rock :LOL

I read all the posts earlier and was laughing and laughing.... read some stuff outloud to dh too. but what was so funny? who knows. that was a whole 2 hours ago and many nursings ago (it was one of THOSE nights trying to get Luka to sleep)

I was so depressed today talking to my papa. he was all down this am after getting all aquainted and having a shower.... it took him an hour to shower (ooh, that rhymed)- mostly I found out later because they made him scrub everything- because they have to teach him and/or make sure he can do everything he needs to do to care for himself. so he was just crushed thinking that it would take him so long to shower at home. but his afternoon was better- PT, and now he's psyched to get moving. my bro said that he was walking w/a walker when he got there- a HUGE improvement- means he could grip the thing and use it. sigh. just to think of my DAD like this is horrible. I think my plan is to go at the end of next week. it looks like he'll probably be at this place for like 10 days- so he'd be almost going home when I get there- if all goes well, of course. I gotta look at flights now.
thanks for listening.

[Pam_and_Abigail]

hmmm that wheat thing is interesting. dd usually chooses not to eat much bread anyway, but dh is/was add, and now with his low carb diet, he's wheat free...

not sure about the door hanging jumy thing, but I've always disliked them

Glad to know I'm not the only slow postcard sender.

I saw a neat backpack carrier once at a second hand shop - it turned into a stroller! I just thought it was so neat!

You know, sometimes I think I step in when I shouldn't with A and G. A will give G a big hug, grab her and roll around with her, and I'll pry her off and remind ehr to be gentle, and there's G, grinning. Perhaps I'm too overprotective?

Unconditional Parenting - some of it I reasd and think 'this is great in theory, but it sounds like a fairy tale', but the over all idea of respecting your dc and the choices they make is a good theme. I think I'm still in the mode where for some offenses, the child should be made to feel bad for something they've done, but I am slowly working out of that.

Michelle! hang in there! Don't give up!

I was really looking forward to 3 being a lot easier, now I'm kinda scared...

I read Priestess of Avalon, but it's not as good. The general opinion I have heard is that Mists is the best book. PofA was basically a similar storyline, not as drawn out,not as profound, really not as good. I learned a bit about Roman history though...

Sheri, G takes milk from a spoon and bowl. Do you think that would work?

You know, I never mentioned this but A might have a speech delay. At first when dh mentioned his concern, I was thinking, just give her time, she'll get there, but the more I am around kids her age and much younger, whose langiage skills are far more advanced, I feel like maybe we did something wrong for her (like not let her watch enough blue's clues and dora... we don't even have a tv). Now I know that sounds backwards, but I don't always make sense! One of you was talking about your three yr old counting to 40, reading etc. Well A just learned to count back from ten, and she doens't even say all the numbers right! ten..nie...eight...dndn...di..die...dore...dee...t wo..ae...
She speaks in sentences, sort of, but not the sentences we use, she just strings her own words together... sometimes as many as 9 for a story, but not connected like our sentences. Anyway, we're on a waiting list for a speech evaluation, but that'll probably be another couple months.

[mamabeca]

Pam - a friend of mine's little fella was the same way. W/or w/out speach, he turned out fine. Took him a little longer, is all. By four he was intelligable to all and now at almost 5 he's just fine. Good to get an eval, but don't let it trigger stress at this point.

Michelle - one for you too! I know that when you weigh every week and there is gain and then ALL OF A SUDDEN there isn't, it feels scary. BUT - it's ok. She's fine. She'll tell you if she isn't. Her color, her behaviour, her pees will all give you info. So use ALL the information, not just one factor, ok?!

I NEVER thought I'd homeschool. Not so crunchy, huh. But I always liked going to school, and I know beca does too. BUT if this coming year isn't BETTER than 1st grade, I think I'm going to pull her. There is a small homeschool cmty here. Not in MY town, of course, but around Albany. We can hook up with them. So that's the short term plan.

Karen - I'm really glad you Dad is on the mend. It may take a whiel, but it looks like he's already relearning stuff and will be doing it for himself very soon. YAY!!! What a weird crappy thing to happen to him.

I thought three was BEASTLY. Worse than two in a lot of ways, although their communication was so much better that it was easier in some ways, too. Jeeze louise, I gotta say I feel for you mamas. Having a 3 yo is just about the hardest thing going (other than living in a war zone, maybe). I'd MUCH rather climb a seriously high mountain :LOL On the flip side, the was nothing more delicious than a 3 yo dripping with ice cream. Or a 3 yo sleeping in the grass with butterflies on their tummy. Or a 3 yo making a snowman. So live for the rewards and just live through the rest... and GOOD LUCK!!!

We had a BRUTAL night last night. He totally poo-pooed his afternoon nap (20 min), then we had swim lessons, so blasted outta here. He swam for a while, but didn't love it. Then he fussed and cried getting changed, so I tried nursing, but NOT interested in that. So back to poolside, which seems to be what he wanted. Just watching the lifeguards etc. Huh? Then home, and he nursed/slept for 30 min. before dinner. He ate almost 3 cubes of sweet pots. Then at about 8ish he was cranky, so I took him up to bed. Beca and Jerry were watching the first Star Wars. At 10pm he was still being goofy, smiley, awake. He peed twice and pooped once in the potty (glad we got the upstairs potty, I gotta say!). It was ugly. I went to sleep, he woke at 12am and when I tried to nurse him he CRIED :cry It was awful. I brought him in to Jerry (who was reading the Harry Potter & the HBP), but we couldn't find ANYTHING wrong. He just didn't want to nurse. Took until almost 2am to get him to sleep (but he finally nursed to sleep). Very weird. Then he was up at 6am and wouldn't nurse much, but wanted to be UP. I'm hesitant to keep offering solids in place of bm, because I know the slippery slope there, but I do want him #1 happy and #2 fed. Hrmmm...

Backpacking your babe IS babywearing, imo. I know what you mean, though Karen. It's just different. I think part of it for dh is that wearing the baby makes them both really hot, and backpacking helps reduce that somewhat. Also the METAL is manly, as are rip-stop nylon and bungee cords. little rings are not. the color coral is not. denim would be, but still, wearing the baby against his skin is just not what he wants to do. OK, so we've got it down to the Tough Traveler Stallion orthis - which is a british version. I kind of like it a lot, although it's hard to know if I could ever re-sell it, since it's so *different*. The TT would be easy to resell. I think we like the TT better than the Kelty. There sure ARE a lot of Kelty's on Ebay (which makes me think the TT is a better investment).

Allright. I have GOT to vacuum up some of this fluff floating around here. See ya later mamas!

[mamabeca]

Jessi - OMG! Would you?!?! Either would be great! Whichever you use less would be so awesome...THANK YOU!!!

[sweetpeasmom]

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[sweetpeasmom]

Michelle- I wouldn't be too concerned about the lack of weight gain either, just like what theothers said. I mean she was having all those wet diaps right? and thats what counts isn't it?

Karen- sound like your dad is doing ok. I hope you can get there soon.

Ok all you gals stop talking about how bad 3 is. Let me live in my delusional dream world that when k turns three she'll turn into a sweet thing

Aviva- hehe funny about the grass thing :LOL

Andy- sounds like a rough night I find Megan has those occasional rough nights. Here's for a great day for him

Pam- It was me who was talking about K doing that. I really don't think thats average for a toddler her age to be doing this stuff. It scares me sometimes. Even my in laws whose kids are very smart and skipped a few grades, saw her and was totally amazed that she was spelling already. My neice didn't even really talked til she was 3. Now you can't get her to stop talking. I just think all kids progress at different rates. Of course it won't hurt to get her speech evaluated either.

Yes I will get postcards this weekend!! I PROMISE, PROMISE, PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not my fault i live in a lame area that don't sell postcards :LOL

[Azreial]

Pam ds has/had a speech problem. He was not speaking in sentances when he was two and he was very hard to understand. He had him evualed and yep he had problems (which we knew) but the only place he could get speech was at the public school in a room under the gym : I asked if he could go to another school to have it done or if he could go at a time when gym wasn't going on. The woman told us no that was our only choice. DS is VERY distractable the woman was kinda snippy, so I knew that just wouldn;t work out. So he didn't get any speech therapy until he started kindergarten for the first time, 2 yrs ago. He got evualated again in kindergarten and you know what they told me.....there isn't much differnce in the speech levels between kids who had early intervention speech therapy and the kids that don't. So my point to this big long thing is, if A isn't really bad I wouldn't worry about it. Mr C didn't have much speech at all in his 1st year of kindergarten (long story) and this past year he got it 2-3 sessions a week. His speech is so much better now, but it was starting to get better over the summer. Some kids are just slower than others at things. He was/is a very active child so I think he just put all his energy into physical things and now that he's got them pretty much down he's moving onto things like speech.

Karen that's a good sign that your Dad is starting to get around, even if it is with the walker. I'm sure your visit will help to cheer him up.

Miss E wants nothing to do with a spoon anymore so I dont think the milk off of a spoon would work. Plus that wouldn't work for daycare. Nicole I'm not pushing the solids, neither is dh, we both feel that if she wants them she'll eat them and if she doesn't its her tum. We weren't plannign on starting solids until six mths but she was to insistant that she get some so we started at 5 mths. She wasn't really eating them either, it was a tablespoon here a teaspoon there, just little tastes. Its just kida weird that she totally dropped everything all at once. Its the bottle thing that really bothers me. She eats all the time, unless she's sleeping. I went to the chiro yesterday, she ate shortly before I left and she was fussing when I got home becuase she wanted to eat and wouldn't take the bottle I felt like such a jerk and I was only gone 40 minutes. She's so wiggly now that I can't take her to therapy with me so she's been staying home with dh or my sister. If she doesn't start taking that bottle again I don't think I'm going to be able to continue therapy

ds is up and hungry

[pixiexto]

Originally Posted by sweetpeasmom

Ok all you gals stop talking about how bad 3 is. Let me live in my delusional dream world that when k turns three she'll turn into a sweet thing

: Um, can I join you in that dream World?? So far this morning, I've been yelled at about a zillion times for 1) not getting water 2) getting water, which means that SHE couldn't get it herself 3) coming into the room 4) leaving the room 5) showing Brynn one of her board books 6) playing with her K'nex 7) not playing with her K'nex

Man, it's tough to be so WRONG all the time!

[paquerette]

Well, we had a nice long adventurous day yesterday! Started off by almost getting hit in the crosswalk. I started across the street and then froze when I realized that the wasn't even slowing down. I was far enough out that they had to swerve into the other lane to go around me. Mike managed to punch their trunk lid as they went by and left a dent in it. This was in a 25 mph heavy pedestrian downtown area.

Then we went and had pizza, walked around some little shops, went and visited with the husband of the MDC mama at their store. Their toddler maybe has strep so she didn't want to come out with the kiddos. Also got to see SIL, since she hangs out there. After that we went to the inlaws and splashed around in their pool just in time for the rain. We hung out on their porch waiting for the storm to blow over, then out to the commercial district to take pictures of signs (supposedly the real reason for the trip). Then we figured what the heck, we'll go over and visit Mike's old boss. So it was a big nostalgia fest, driving through Port Jervis and commenting on what was new, what was still miraculously in business, etc. We hung out there for way too long, and stopped for Taco Bell on the way home. : I didn't plan on that but we were starving by the time we left.

LLL is in 15 minutes, but I don't want to wake Bea up. We'll go late if she wakes up soon, I guess.

[mamabeca]

Well mamas - these trickley little babes have got us hopping, eh! Az - I really think if dh is home with her, he could just as easily be with her at the doctor's office while you have a session. You sister is different, of course, but you can't take care of your baby if you aren't taking care of you, kwim? so you will just have to leave her with the bottle at your sister's occasionally and probably she'll get over the avoidence thing, but if she doesn't, she doesn't. Then she wasn't so hungry that she needed it. Lots of babies prefer the breast because of the comfort. Bottles don't give comfort in the same way, so TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF and just do whatever you can to give Elizabeth everything she needs for the short periods that you are away. They are short, hon. So don't sweat it.

that sucks about the school and speach. sometimes districts are SO annoying with all their regs etc. I'm glad C. is doing well now. in SPITE of their bull.

Oh and Laura - I'm glad they are being vigilant and watching for possible neg. affects of the prem. birth. She has grown so well, it's easy to think she hasn't got any ill effects. BUT I know bunches of babies who were resistent to weight bearing on their feet at this age. Not MY kids, MY kids want to RUN CLIMB TREES SWING etc., but LOTS of babies are quite happy to just hang loose for up to a year before doing stuff. Our little friend John Henry (my friend Joan's first) didn't move at ALL for 16 months. Then he just got up and walked. No trial and error, not floppy stuff, not creeping, and not much crawling at all either. Every baby is different. It's ok for her to be her, but best to keep that eye on her just in case it is something that needs help.

Off to do laundry. It's much better here when it's vacuumed (and when the baby is sleeping LOL!). sigh. Nice to have the work done early. maybe we'll go look at the butterfly gardens today...

[Pam_and_Abigail]

We're supposed to be in the car to go to swimming lessons like NOW but I am having such a rotten morning! A won't stop peeing all over the floor. In less than 2 hrs she peed 4 or 5 times. That, plus I found maggots and mold in the compost in the kitchen (it's not gettting emptied as often as it should). I feel so gross! We've gotta get going, but G just fell asleep, and I'm still in my jammies and neither kid is dressed.
That's a relief about the language thing.
ok off my arse...

[rubysmomjess]

Originally Posted by Killick

Thanks for the kind words about daycare. TBH, Will is more frustrating now and I find myself resenting that I have to take him. Fortunately, the daycare is across the street, so I will go over and nurse him and spend time with him during the day. They are wonderful there. Totally loving. Only drawback is that they won't use cloth dipes. So I take him in in one, put him in the dreaded sposie when I get there, adn the put him back in a cloth dipe before we leave. Then he is in them all weekend too. Works out okay. Means less sposies for that, so that's good too.

Okay, off to bed. Things to do in the morning. Night all!

We do the same thing. I loooked and looked and couldn't find a DC that would do cloth. Half the nannies I interviewed wouldn't either.

[rubysmomjess]

Originally Posted by Pam_and_Abigail

You know, sometimes I think I step in when I shouldn't with A and G. A will give G a big hug, grab her and roll around with her, and I'll pry her off and remind ehr to be gentle, and there's G, grinning. Perhaps I'm too overprotective?

Pam I totally struggled with this too. I'm finally starting to wait until Isabelle squeeks or something. The other day the 110lb dog was standing on her leg (don't ask why-it was a fiasco) and she was just smiling up at the dog. I loves R and the less I try to intervene the sweeter R becomes. R has really started to enjoy being hte BIG sister. She gets diapers, makes sure I has toys to play with, will give her a hug or p[lay with her if I"m trying to do something. It's really cute...

Originally Posted by Pam_and_Abigail

Unconditional Parenting - some of it I reasd and think 'this is great in theory, but it sounds like a fairy tale', but the over all idea of respecting your dc and the choices they make is a good theme. I think I'm still in the mode where for some offenses, the child should be made to feel bad for something they've done, but I am slowly working out of that.

I like the idea but I'm having a hard time finding the way to put into practice and get out of the old habits of rewards and punishment. Dh keeps asking "where's the carrot and the stick" and I have to say I keep looking for it too. But I understand the idea of internal motivation (one of the reasons I like the idea of homeschooling). But I've noticed in the last couple of days that explaining stuff to R makes abig difference, eg, "you played with the toys too, you need to help pick them up" and she happily helped pick up the toys.

You all are making me nervous about 3...I think 2 is pretty hard.

[rubysmomjess]

Kathy- I've been reading it while pumping so I'm only on chapter 5. It will take me awhile to finish.