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post #21 of 90
We'll see how I feel after I've done it, but my favored choice has always been a freestanding, midwife-run birth center. I see it as the best of both worlds- minimal interventions, midwife philosophy, *and* access to hospital type equipment and a doctor if needed.

Also, I'm with the pp who said that she'd rather make a mess at the birthing center where someone else has to clean it up.

But, all that opinion may change after I give birth for the first time (in a hospital, alas).

Julia
post #22 of 90
No mess at my homebirth. And I have cream carpet too.

Why should we pay for people to go to the hospital when they are neither sick nor injured?

makes no sense to me.

-Angela
post #23 of 90
I so totally agree with everything mmaramba said (thank you for putting it so well!). Home for me. I mean no offense by this, but as someone who has done her research it's just so annoying to hear the "just in case" argument b/c you're so much more likely to get that "just in case" in the hospital (and then you can shake hands with and thank your OB for "saving" your/your baby's life ). And the mess, ugh - so not an issue. Off-white carpets here for both of my homebirths and they're fine. We mess them up much more with sippie cups and snacks. The midwife takes care of the mess, fwiw. You'll never see it.
post #24 of 90
post #25 of 90
With more than 30% of first time moms receiving cesarean sections at my local hospital, I'm not fond of thinking that hospital birth is safest.

What I think is funny is how many people look at me and say things like, "SCARY!" when they hear I attend homebirths. I'm so not a huge risk-taker. Not at all. Since most of my clients birth upright, in water, babies born into their own hands and nary a vaginal exam, I'd have to say that the women that walk into the hospital are brave. Very brave.

I don't know that I'd turn my normal birth over to anyone. I'm fond of woman-centered, holistic, hands-off birth. If you can get that in the hospital without a fight, that's great. But, the truth is most women cannot. Giving birth and fighting off "well meaning" providers just does not go hand in hand. It would be like making love while a "well meaning" instructor stood by to watch, get involved "if needed" and make sure things were happening according to their schedule.

For first time moms especially, I think it's so important in today's climate that they birth empowered.
post #26 of 90
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Originally Posted by alegna
Why should we pay for people to go to the hospital when they are neither sick nor injured?
-Angela
post #27 of 90
since you asked for personal opinon
I choose something not on your list--- Home-- there is no place like home
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woops I misread there is the OP and home is included

" In your eyes, wheres the best place to give birth
Home or Indepent Birth Center or Hospital whether its regular or alternative one."

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and I still think home is best
post #28 of 90
I agree that (as they do in some other countries) medicalized obstetric care should not be covered for those who have no complications but that was not what was originally stated. What was said was "non-homebirth" should not be covered which I strongly disagree with because we should not deny women the use of birthing centers. I personally will not leave my home to give birth unless there is a life or death complication but not everyone feels that way and compelling people goes completely against the gentle spirit of homebirth.
post #29 of 90
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post #30 of 90
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Originally Posted by teagreenribbons
Home or Indepent Birth Center or Hospital whether its regular or alternative one.

For me now its at the hospital in the alternative birth center, if something goes wrong or just feel I can't handle the pain anymore, I can just be transfer to the regular birth unit of the hospital.

Thank you.
it totally depends on the situation, and the mother-to-be's comfort levels.

The best place to give birth is wherever you feel most comfortable giving birth. Wherever you feel safe and wherever your wishes and needs are supported.

for me, given my circumstances, it was a homebirth-away-from-home. Given different circumstances, it probably would have been at home instead. I personally do not feel safe or comfortable or supported in a hospital or most birth center environments. I start to panic at the first sight of anything remotely medical, and there's no way I could ever have a positive birth experience with that much fear in my heart.
post #31 of 90
Home or a home like atmosphere in a midwife run birth center. Low lights, no one rushing to footprint, weigh, vitamin K shot, hepB vax, bathe, and pester my new baby. Baby has been cuddled soft, warm, and shaded in your womb for its whole life, and to lay naked, cold, screaming, and tramatized in a baby isolette thing while strange nurses poke, prod, and mess with baby is not a smooth transition. Most midwives would at least make sure that if thse things need to be done and are at a hospital that most are done on mom's belly, that there be a half hour or so to bond with baby, etc etc etc.

its just so much HARDER to shield baby from all the commotion as it makes its little transition into life if youre in a regular L and D ward.
post #32 of 90
Home, home, home .

I personally think that birth centers are really kind of "fake" in a way. Homebirth midwives typically carry all of the same things that you could find at a birth center anyway so I really don't think that they provide anything "more." Also, birth centers typically have to follow more strict protocols than an independent midwife. I don't really believe in "alternative" sections of hospitals either, I think that their wording is just getting creative and makes it appear more friendly. It's all the same protocols, same malpractice insurance, same thing. We have a local hospital that advertises its "family birth center" (that they cleverly built apart from the rest of the hospital to give an additional fake appearance making it seem that it's independent) all over the dang place. But, little do most people know that is the ONLY labor and delivery area for that entire hospital and women get c-sections on the same floor. Wallpaper and nice tubs only go so far.
post #33 of 90
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post #34 of 90
home. i am more comfortable here than anywhere else. in my bathtub, preferably.
post #35 of 90
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Originally Posted by PapayaVagina
Home, home, home .

I personally think that birth centers are really kind of "fake" in a way. Homebirth midwives typically carry all of the same things that you could find at a birth center anyway so I really don't think that they provide anything "more." Also, birth centers typically have to follow more strict protocols than an independent midwife. I don't really believe in "alternative" sections of hospitals either, I think that their wording is just getting creative and makes it appear more friendly. It's all the same protocols, same malpractice insurance, same thing. We have a local hospital that advertises its "family birth center" (that they cleverly built apart from the rest of the hospital to give an additional fake appearance making it seem that it's independent) all over the dang place. But, little do most people know that is the ONLY labor and delivery area for that entire hospital and women get c-sections on the same floor. Wallpaper and nice tubs only go so far.
I second all of this. BC's are fake to me too. What is the point really? I would never feel comfortable any other place than at home with my family welcoming its new member.
post #36 of 90
I also say wherever the mama is most comfortable.

FWIW, I had my DD at home.
- We have cream carpet. There ended up being a huge merconium and blood stain in the middle of the room. The midwife did not take care of that mess (and she's been a MW for close to 15 years).

- DD had an apgar of 3 (then 5 then 7) and we had to take her in to the ER to get checked out. The hospital treated us like sh!t because we had a homebirth. A blood test was contaminated by the staff and we ended up with a 9 day hospital stay while DD was on antibiotics for NO reason.

- I was very unprepared for how overwhelming the pain of labor would be. I woke up in hard labor (painful contrax 3-5 minutes apart) that continued for over 14 hours. I know not all women have such a painful labor but I was really struggling to cope and would have done just about anything to be out of pain (including death which I wished for more than once that day).

This time I am having a hospital birth with an OB.
I know him and have worked with him in the past. I am confident that my wishes will be respected (they aren't that serious- no eye goop, no vax, no vit k, baby to my breast immediately, no bath, wait to cut cord).
Oops and no episiotomy.

I am doing hypnobabies for pain but if I fail at my own pain control, I have absolutely no qualms about asking for an epidural. Not very crunchy of me but I don't care. I strongly suspect my DD went into distress because of MY pain and distress. I was too panicked to be very effective during my last labor.

Also, my insurance pays 100% of my hospital birth. It covers nothing for a homebirth and we do not have an extra $3000 to spend at this time. We have tens of thousands of debt to pay off as it is.

I applaud women who educate others about the benefits of homebirth. For the most part, I agree with the stats and the sentiment. Nearly all of my friends IRL are homebirthers.

This time it's not for me. I educated myself. I tried it. It should be no skin off anyone else's nose that I am choosing to have a hospital birth. I know the risks and I'm not really all that concerned. I *am* armed with information and a voice to speak up for myself and my child. DH feels the same way.
post #37 of 90
Thread Starter 
artist mama,

WOW about your homebirth. Totally agree with what you said about the hospital birth and with you as well. Thank you.
post #38 of 90
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I personally think that birth centers are really kind of "fake" in a way. ... I really don't think that they provide anything "more."
EXCEPT A BATH and the hot water to fill it!!!

And our cream carpet has two stains from my waters - and I didn't even get into real labour at home - the landlord won't be happy.
post #39 of 90
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Originally Posted by teagreenribbons
artist mama,

WOW about your homebirth. Totally agree with what you said about the hospital birth and with you as well. Thank you.
Maybe I'm just irascible lately, but

It's hypothesis-confirmation-seeking behavior at its finest. You already stated your opinion, (a couple of times) and then a dozen women explained why they LOVED their HBs. But you grab on to the one "negative" story about HB.

I mean, that's fine-- to each her own. But what was your point in asking?

I've said it before and I'll say it again-- in birth, as in life, there are NO GUARANTEES. You could have a cr@ppy hospital birth and you could have a cr@ppy homebirth. Absolutely. No question about it.

But when it comes to mitigating risk, for low-risk women, HB is the SAFEST option. That doesn't make it 100% safe. Just SIGNIFICANTLY SAFER than hospital birth.

OTOH, as pro-HB as I am, I wouldn't denigrate the choice to birth in a hospital-- especially when made by someone who has done the research. The SERIOUS research-- not WTEWYE. That's just rarer among hospital birthers-- choosing to HB is self-selecting-- you have to know a lot more, on average, to buck society like that. As I've learned from debate boards, homebirth is themost defensible choice-- SCIENTIFICALLY defensible-- for low-risk women (80+% of women).

But if someone still wanted hospital birth? I'd support it, even if I didn't "get" it. And that's even with all the many, MANY more iatrogenic (doc-/hospital-caused) horror stories out there (in number and by %) than HB horror stories.
post #40 of 90
woman should birth wherever the midiwfes are. And i mean the real midwifes not the ones you find doing shift work in the teaching hospitals. The ones who take the time to know you, your wishes, how you view birth. You can find them in hospitals, birth centers, and for homebirths. Wherever you want to birth find a good midwife to do it with. I think OB's should only be used for high risk pregnancies.
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