at a very early age (around 5 yo) I would balance her checkbook
=lol we had take your child to work day, my parents were teachers....I wanted something interesting so my friend took me to her parents auto dealership - I did taxes all day long....not really thinking about it, they gave me a job I was good with numbers/math....
My dh is extremely genius gifted, too frigging smart to be human really, he just doesn't get the human race, has real emotional issues even now and I am going to avoid those problems if it kills me for our own babies.
=lol I understand, my dh is great, genius gifted says he knows 50 languages (computers) but english and emmotions aren't two of them
Anyone who thinks you have to *push kids into their heads with academics* doesn't understand an intellectually gifted child and should just let someone else who understands their needs better deal with them because it is truly harmful that *normal children stats applied to gifted children* mentality.
=True enough, that even a gifted child in the right age academically is not really served completely as the brain is just go go go
And the box doesn't apply...
Being smart and being challenged are important, but so is being a person who can have a conversation with the garbage man, knows how to help friends, visits with peers across the age spectrum.
=Amen focusing on same intelligent peers or only your social, cultural economic group....doesn't help kids long term, if they are going to be leaders they have to understand employees, workers, people in general.
I can certainly see how a child who is told that s/he is better/smarter than others would wind up with some issues and would project those issues onto those who have been deemed his/her peers.
=I am not sure if its just that, there is a lot of angst with gifted kids regardless of programme meeting their needs. Competition I think is healthy but I think really gifted kids know who they are, they don't want to prove it they just want to move on.
We have the issue of competitiveness popping up regularly amongst parents at dd's school even among those children who have not been identified as GT. I have never told dd that I believe her to be smarter than anyone else nor even mentioned to her that what she is reading is not perfectly normal for children of her age/grade.
=Yes it is interesting though, I think of smart and intellectual as a little different. There are many smart high achieving kids that may appear to do better, and I feel for parents who think their kid is 'smarter' than the gifted kids. Partly because you should accept your child for who they really are, and if you place your identity in your kids achievments it sets a very bad tone for the child. A child should be able to take credit for their own accomplishments not try to make a parent happy.... Or normalcy, she is normal for her.
By using 'smarter' I think that it sets some gifted kids up for failure as they expect things to come easier, and we aren't all accross the board gifted. There are academics - my mom is an academic she is very smart, exceedingly smart, started school early, went to uni at 16 graduated pure math and physics by 19.. But she is not an intellectual, not an abstract thinker. She's a concrete thinker, and gifted academically and very advanced. Whereas my dad is a total intellectual, but not achievment academically motivated, but completely cerebral.
Yes, there *are* gifted children, and they *are* "born that way".
=Totally my sons' brain and the way he looked at life was just different from birth compared to my dd. Mind you her dad is artistic and she could watch a dance routine and duplicate it - whereas I still polka saying in my head one two three...and then my dh will tell me I am leading
By the fifth grade I had totally stopped paying attention,
=lol me too, which lead my teacher to ask if I was gifted or gifted with laziness.....I did the work but really why expect more out of me than the rest of the kids....If the other kid would get an A so should I for the same thing....
All this crap about meeting potential....sigh....
and when new concepts were taught I had zero study habits or practice and zero attention span
=lol I had my study skills measured once - pathetic.
I adhere to the philosophy that kids... ESPECIALLY gifted kids... need to develop a love for learning and expanding their minds, and instead what we get is an entire country basing curriculum on how much kids can memorize and how well they can test.
=Amen and when you measure a kid on regurgitation (which is most of public school) you miss the gifted, and a whole lot of other kids.
I think we have to tell gifted kids the truth about life. Studies say what is it a third don't finish highschool? Most go on not to be 'leaders', presidents of companies but to follow their own paths. That being 'gifted' is not enough in life you have to have other skills as well. That people might be threatened by you......
But what is the ideal life for a gifted child? I mean really how is my child best served? If he is ready to start kindergarten but the rigid school system might stifle him - should I be looking for alternatives, homeschooling, half public school days? Hmm what would I have been happiest with?
Actually probably the captian of the loveboat's daughter, every day a different country, port, people, languages, food.....
What are my obligations to my child to find a lifestyle that he can thrive in?
And how do you justify something drastic like homeschooling one child when public school was fine for the other?