Originally Posted by carolynrosa
Egads, I sure am glad that you know what my goals are in this. You're sure "they will not be part of the economy at all, so to be in any system would go against the goal."? Come on. My children (all children) must be part of the economy, it's impossible not to be. I not planning on raising hermits.
What I don't see as neccessary is signing my children up for a retirement fund they don't need and for what has increasingly become a survellaince program for Americans.
I have no problem with the gov. knowing I have children. I just don't want to be pressured into something that I don't think makes sense.
Thanks for clarifying, though.
I said, "The feeling I get.." I didn't say that I KNOW what you want. I'd never say something like that.
As far as a retirement program your kids don't need, well... I don't agree with that at all. In fact, my mother, who is 64 years old LIVES off of her social security. She has no savings and this money is everything to her. I'm glad that you are wealthy enough to be able to thumb your nose at social security. We're not.
And I too have to wonder if you've ever traveled outside of the US at all. I am not patriotic, and this will be the last house you see waving the stars and stripes, but this issue seems to go beyond government paranoia (think you've watched way too much X-Files). I've lived in and traveled to more than 2 dozen countries, Muslim and Christian alike and although I don't like the current administration here in the US, life is NOT BAD in the US. Unike Swedes, I don't give up 60% of my earnings in taxes, unlike Germans, I don't have to tell the government if I moved from apartment A to apartment B, unlike Turks, I don't have to have a national identity card & number (which, for the record, also states your RELIGION!!!!) from my first moment of birth.
I pick my battles and SS isn't one of them. It does indeed personally irk me that people like my mother put in her dues for 50 years and because you have some issue with Big Brother, you don't. It's not just about you... you do, after all, live in a SOCIETY. As a consumer in this society, you have some things you don't like along with the benefits you do. All my opinion, and I rarely ever get into such online discussions, but this one just hit in the right place, I guess. I mean, my mother would be homeless without social security.