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post #1 of 8
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I'm feeling a little desperate for help.

My five and a half year old daughter has, over the last 18 months, developed a real phobia of public toilets. It started with a toilet at a store overflowing on us - it was the only one available and someone had put too much paper in it. After that incident she was insistent that we only use the big toilets.

This was okay, if a little inconvenient. A couple of times we'd encounter one that was out of order, and rather than use a smaller stall would have to hunt down another bathroom with a large stall.

Then she developed a fear of toilets with the automatic sensor. It is at the point where she completely panics and will NOT use one with the sensor. We have to leave the door wide open while she goes. A couple of times I've been sucessful with getting her to go after covering the sensor with toilet paper so it can't "see" us, but only after extensive cajoling and begging and a lot of crying on her end.

Today she absolutely panicked and completely lost her temper. Other than the toilet thing, this is just not her. She's always been able to express herself very well. Has had maybe five tantrums ever. She's very sweet, we have a good relationship. We un-school and I know all about following her lead, waiting for her to be ready or show interest in something. We have made every effort not to pressure her or make light of her fears. I kind of thought that, with patience, this would go away. I've tried very hard to not make a big deal about it and address her fears, but it just seems to be getting worse.

Does anyone have any experience or words of advice? Avoiding public toilets isn't going to work. We primarily use public transportation, so often we're out of the house just long enough that peeing before we leave the house doesn't work. And since she doesn't go to school, we are often out at different classes, meetings, etc. Short of becoming housebound, I'm at a loss.
post #2 of 8
my dd (age 4 1/2) also FREAKS out about the automatic flushing toilets - to the point where a few months ago, she would say she had to go to the bathroom, we would get in there, she would ask if it flushed by itself, and if it did, she didn't "have to go anymore."

this is what worked for us - may work for you, may not because it seems like yours are a little more complicated.

she always asks if it will flush by itself - so i answer her accurately. if it is a self-flushing toilet, i remind her "now, you know it will flush by itself. it won't flush until you move out of the way. if you keep remembering that it is going to flush when you stand up, maybe it won't be as scary." then i remind her again when she is about to hop off that the toilet will flush on its own. she usually covers her ears and waits until after it is done flushing to pull up her pants, etc. i think with her, it is related to a general aversion to loud noises.
post #3 of 8
My 5 1/2 year old also has a thing with public toilets. She refuses to flush them. This only happens with the industrial-type toilets. If it's a small store or restaurant with a home-like toilet, she will flush it. She also refuses to use the automatic flush type. Here's a trick to help that-carry some post-it notes with you and put one over the sensor, this will prevent it from flushing until you have removed it. You can also use your thumb or hand. My dd is starting kindgergarten this year and I've told her that I will not be there to flush for her during the day. She is trying to think of a good solution for this problem. I hope she does!
post #4 of 8
I am reading this great book right now called Easy to Love, Difficult to Discipline...it's a must read for every parent, no matter your child's age.

The emphasis is on not trying to "get" your child to do something but to ask "How can I get help my child to be more likely to choose x." I know it's wordy but the philosophy is enlightening. It's helping me with my potty learning 3 year old (who also has taken to covering his ears when a public toilet is going to flush...he used to love it).

So if you haven't already tried this, I would ask (at home, during a calm time, maybe dinnertime) your daughter what she thinks you and she can do. Then wait to see what she says. Maybe just brainstorm with her. Maybe ask her again about that first trauma, if she remembers it, etc. Maybe you could promise to always flush the toilet before she goes so she'll be sure it's working properly. And most automatic toilets have a button you could push. Maybe that would make her feel more in control. And maybe you could go over the alternative which is to not go and how that might hurt her body to have to wait so long, etc. Just some ideas...
post #5 of 8
My almost 3 y/o has the same issue. He wont even pee in our toilet at HOME! He pees in our shower or outside if we are outside! He will pee in a urinal out and about but NOT a toilet. It makes it very difficult when dh is not with us as I have no access to the men's bathroom for a urinal! I took him outside last time and had him pee by the car. LOL If you find something that works, let me know!

Just wanted to sympathize!
post #6 of 8
My daughter had the same fear. She was terrified of public restrooms. This sounds very weird, but this is how we got her over it. The urinal in the mens bathroom.

Seriously, my ex-husband would check to make sure there were no other men in the bathroom and he would hold her up (making sure she touched nothing with any part of her body....ewwwww) to pee into it. If he wasn't with me, we had to have an extra change of clothes because she would hold it until she wet her pants. We also made sure to have her go to the bathroom before we left and not give her anything to drink while we were out. SHe came around after a month or two when she had gotten used to actually being in a public bathroom.
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Originally Posted by DesireeH
My almost 3 y/o has the same issue. He wont even pee in our toilet at HOME! He pees in our shower or outside if we are outside! He will pee in a urinal out and about but NOT a toilet. It makes it very difficult when dh is not with us as I have no access to the men's bathroom for a urinal! I took him outside last time and had him pee by the car.
Sorry to laugh at your difficulty, but that is soooo funny to me :LOL .
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the suggestions. The "post-it" in particular will come in handy. Right now I've been using toilet paper to drape over the sensor, but while I'm actually getting it and putting it on it usually causes the toilet to flush on its own and that sets her off. Having something in my bag to put on there quickly will work - maybe we can even draw on them beforehand or something, plus I'm increasingly finding the sensors embedded in the wall, and you can't drape stuff over them.

We tried talking about this last night, but I think it was too close to the event. I wanted us to write a list about all the things she was scared of and then go through each one, let her cross them off, etc. but she started getting really wacky, saying, "i'm scared in case the toilet shoots me up to the ceiling!" and other very out there, fantastical suggestions. I said we'd do it another time when she was going to be less silly about it. I think that was maybe the wrong way to go. Maybe I can be just as fantastical in my responses to those particular, more imaginative fears.

I'll let you all know how it goes.
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