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Originally Posted by Serena Blaue
There is no effort to hide this information. Just google "anthroposophy" and see.
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Pete
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Originally Posted by Serena Blaue
There is no effort to hide this information. Just google "anthroposophy" and see.
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Originally Posted by Pete
Unfortunately, incoming parents don't know they need to google "anthroposophy". They are not told about anthroposopy, and if they are, it's in the vaguest terms. They don't know it is the basis, the foundation for everything that happens in the school, and they certainly don't know that it influences even the curriculum. They need to *know* that they are supposed to google "anthroposophy" and they need to *know* why they need to google "anthroposophy". And, as we saw with our first posted school website above, schools generally don't connect anthroposophy with Waldorf very realistically.
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Originally Posted by Serena Blaue
Dear Pete,
I gave 13 examples of how parents can get to know about anthroposophy at the school near me and you fixate on googling?! Gee whizzies, why? If you go to the links http://www.imhoffwaldorf.org/links.asp you will find an extensive list of resources, incluing anthroposophical and Waldorf resources. I hope this relieves your concerns! Serena |
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Originally Posted by Serena Blaue
Here's what's available at my local Waldorf School and I suspect that many if not all of these resources are available at most Waldorf Schools:
1. Open House days or evenings where WE is discussed & questions can be answered. 2. Parent/teacher meetings alone or in groups as parents of a class 3. School brochure or website with links to information about Anthroposophy 4. Parent study groups on various WE/A related subjects 5. Foundation year program studying anthroposophy 6. Parent e-mail list with opportunities to ask questions, find resources 7. School library and bookstore with WE and A. related books available 8. School newsletter where local A. Branch calendar & activities are listed 9. Conferences on WE/A by well-known WE teachers, A speakers, etc. 10. Plays, festivals, fundraising events open to the public where materials books, etc. are available about WE/A. 11. Waldorf or A related subscription lists or boards (See Deborah's resources again) 12. Local A branch library or the larger A lending library. 13. Many bookstores now carry Steiner books. Amazon (and other services) has many used A - related books. |
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Originally Posted by Pete
Unfortunately, incoming parents don't know they need to google “anthroposophy”. They are not told about anthroposophy, and if they are, it's in the vaguest terms.
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Originally Posted by Serena Blaue
I gave 13 examples of how parents can get to know about anthroposophy at the school near me and you fixate on googling?!
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Originally Posted by Pete
What I mentioned about googling applies to every one of the 13 resources you gave. Parents need to know about Anthroposophy or have heard about Anthroposophy to ASK about Anthroposophy.
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Originally Posted by alanoe
Serena Blaue’s list of 13 resources go well beyond simply ‘googling’. She addressed your concerns and identified the many ways her school approaches this question, including being proactive in introducing parents to Anthroposophy. I read this exchange and wonder if this discussion is for argument’s sake only.
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Originally Posted by LindaCl
All parents at our school should be very well aware that Waldorf education was developed by Rudolf Steiner, who based it on principles and ideas from anthroposophy. They are *not* told it "Isn't in the school". Obviously, the anthroposophy is in the methods, practice, and view of child development teachers use.
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| Parents *are* told "Anthroposophy isn't taught in the school". We all know that the teachers study it and use it. We all know this, though the parents probably all have their own interpretation what that means exactly. So would the teachers~~I GUARANTEE they don't all agree what this means exactly. |
| At our school, the parents know about Anthroposophy and they have ample opportunity to learn about it if they don't know what it is. The school displays books, it has a library that the adults can check out the books. They can ask the teachers, they can ask other anthroposophists who are in the parent body. There is even the occasional "Anthroposophy 101" offered during the evening, with very limited attendance by the way. And the wide body of information available on the internet has already been mentioned here. |
| I see a lot of tension about this question on some internet messageboards about the anthroposophy issue, and it seems most of it is focused on the teacher and their anthroposophical "motivation" for doing this or that. There really isn't that much dispute over what actually goes on in the classroom curriculum. |
| What you see on display on visiting days, or outlined in the curriculum guides, or written up in the literature about Waldorf, that's what you're child is going to get. |
| There is no secret little Anthroposophy 1A class that doesn't show up in the curriculum guide or anything like that. What you see is what you get. |
| But it seems some people become uneasy about what the teacher may have taken from the anthroposophy. For example, does the teacher believe they have karma with my child? Does the teacher think Steiner was clairvoyant? These are questions that go into the teacher's state of mind, and motivation, and though one can argue that answers to those questions may influence the child or the relationship between teacher and child, this is kind of a gray area where actually very few teachers are expected to divulge their personal beliefs like this. I can see why some parents are disturbed by this, but I wanted to kind of emphasize it is a very gray area there. |
| Not all teachers are anthroposophists, and in my observation they vary a great deal in what they bring from anthroposophy to their own teaching and understandings about children. There really is no *code* to being an anthroposophist, so I'd be interested to hear from some what the definition of "anthroposophist" is to them. There is no official dogma attached to it that I'm aware of. |
| But nonetheless, I think it's interesting that in the case brought against Waldorf in public schools, the judge made it clear that the personal views of anthroposophists about the spiritual side of Waldorf education were irrelevant to the case judging whether or not the teaching itself was religious, saying "the anthroposophists' motivation is not at issue". |

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Originally Posted by LindaCl
Pete
There's not much point in a back and forth "Does Not", "Does Too" type of thing. If you disagree, specifics would be helpful. |
| And the only specific you offered where there's really anything to discuss was the link you offered in support of your argument about what anthroposophy "is", an article that I'm guessing you couldn't find one in a hundred anthroposophists actually Agree With. |
| What's the point to this? The author of it is essentially laudatory about Waldorf, biodynamics and other such initiatives which began before Steiner died. She criticizes the fact that anthroposophy hasn't really produced any innovative new disciplines since then. The theory she makes to explain this is essentially a lot of he said/she said soap opera rumors about Steiner and a woman and whether or not he was very nice in the way he dumped her and talked to her in public. |
| What's the point? Prospective parents should be given this to read? Gimmeabreak. |
This is just too bizarre. ![]() |
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Originally Posted by ratlover
Here's the FAQ section for another school: http://www.waldorfinnorthcoastal.org..._questions.php
It does mention anthroposophy quite a few times and tries to briefly explain it. It then gives links to anthroposophy web sites. Janine |
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Originally Posted by Pete
Let's look at the sister school's website. http://www.susquehanna.org/ Susquehanna Waldorf School one goes a step further. No mention of Anthroposophy AND no mention of Rudolf Steiner either. Parents looking for information are hard-pressed to find it here. Lots of pictures on both sites - kids having lots of fun and doing interesting projects. Oh well... perhaps the failure to mention Anthroposophy is just an oversight. Pete |
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Originally Posted by Serena Blaue
If one goes to the Susquehanna School's page with links
on it, you will find: http://www.susquehanna.org/waldorf-links.htm helpful links The links below will take you to websites where you can learn more about Waldorf Education. Waldorf Answers A site dedicated to providing in depth answers about Waldorf education for parents and prospective parents. This site also serves to clear up some of the misconceptions that may exist about Waldorf education. Association of Waldorf Schools in North America AWSNA is an assocation of independent Waldorf schools and Waldorf teacher education institutes. Their mission is to strengthen and support the schools and to inform the public about the benefits of Waldorf Education. Anthroposophical Society in America Information and resources about Rudolf Steiner and anthroposophical activity in North America. Bob and Nancy's Services The largest English language web site for information on Waldorf Schools and Anthroposophy. |
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Originally Posted by Pete
{Sigh} If there's no mention of Anthroposophy on the site, why would parents think they need to go to all these links?
Does everyone here see why I need to repeat myself so often? Pete |



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