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post #101 of 178
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Originally Posted by llyra
I guess I'm in trouble, then, because she's explored all kinds of sticks-- today she had one maybe four feet long. I sit right next to her, though, and guide her. Heck, I let her play with a teacup the other day, and she had the cat's ceramic dish this morning. I just sit right there with my hands involved in the exploration, and carefully lead her to explore the object safely.
I think that's great! You're teaching her how to handle and respect fragile things. I need to start doing that with my dd.
post #102 of 178
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Originally Posted by KristiMetz
Daily bathing does NOTHING to prevent lice; it's a COMMUNICABLE disease. You get lice by being near other people who have it. Daily baths don't prevent it in ANY WAY.


I used to work in a group home for teen girls, went through more lice episodes than I care to think about. Scabies, too. All the regular shampoo and soap in the world ain't gonna deter the little buggers. All of our girls and a good chunk of the staff got headlice regardless of their personal hygiene status. In fact the girl who had the most trouble with recurring lice had problems not because of her hygiene, but due to her really long thick, dark hair that took us HOURS to find the nits to comb out. She wouldn't cut her hair and it took weeks of recurring lice episodes until she finally changed her mind and let us cut it.

FTR I never got lice or scabies from any of the kids. Thankfully. But some of our staff who were far more fastidious and anal than me got them. It's proximity darling. Not personal hygiene. Living in filthy conditions and rarely bathing your child is one thing. Save your rants for those parents, babydoll. I think the parents here that you are scolding clean up child and home well enough at the end of the day. I hate to tell you but a spotless child is not a sign of a loved and thriving child and a dirty child is not a sign of a neglected, abused child. You just can't tell by looking, esp. a passing glance through judgemental eyes in the supermarket.
post #103 of 178
<-------- Mama to a kid who will be crawling in the dirt (as soon as he learns to crawl! :LOL)
<--------- another vote for fear of dirt, messy play, etc=uptight

My only qualm about the dirtiness issue would be I would be worried that the dirt had been chemically treated in some way. (like Trugreen Chemlawn type deal--GROSS) So I'd probably only allow dirt in/near the mouth if I was sure that the dirt wasn't all chemical-y.

Apart from that, break out the mud puddles and let's get to jumping! (oh I am going to have so much fun making messes with my son )
post #104 of 178
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post #105 of 178
Another vote here for letting babies get dirty! Within reason of course, will always make sure the area doesn't have real contamination.
Last sunday our family outing was to a pig sanctuary!!! It was great fun, they had 450 pigs. I am going to volunteer there, and someday I hope I can bring ds to play and "help" while I do. I am glad I am not uptight about dirt so he can experience that.
Think of all the kids that grew up on farms, how dirty they must have been.

Babydoll, be careful how you judge. A few weeks ago we had a power outage in the middle of the day and my cooling system turned off. It was 107 outside so I scooped ds off the floor and headed to the mall for some air-conditioning. When we got there I realized his white onesie was brown and covered in doghair from crawling around (I clean my floors all the time but we live in the desert and I have a really hairy dog). He had one of those dirt necklaces, and he had a little bit of yogurt near his ear. I chuckled to think of what we looked like. You would have labeled me neglectful, when actually I am a wonderful Mama
post #106 of 178
Wow.
I had only read the first two pages of this thread before I posted, and then went back to read the last few.
Just wow.
Can I hang with you Mamas on the high road even though ds hasn't had a bath since thursday?
post #107 of 178
forget it....
post #108 of 178

lice

when a child is exposed to lice there is the opportunity to kill it, remove it, etc. before it gets completely out of hand. THis happens when the exposure is noticed immediately -i.e. when the child is being bathed etc. When a child is NOT bathed regularly the lice will thrive and grow. Your dirty minded hygiene will be cold comfort to you when you are trying to de-lice your child and your home. Good luck with that.

I sincerly hope that this is really just a contest to see who can pretend to be the crudest about their child's hygiene and that you all do actually bathe your children regularly.

I also hope that you can comfort your children well when they come home crying because they have been labeled the "dirty kid" in school. I am talking about FUNK here, not a little spilled juice down the shirt.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL!
post #109 of 178
Okay..I'm following my own advice in my siggy.
post #110 of 178
Yikes, I don't know what kind of buttons this is pushing for you, babydoll, but I hope that along with teaching your child how to be clean and neat you are also able to teach him/her that treating people like dirt is liable to make someone friendless alot quicker than skipping a bath will. This whole thread is a perfect example of how to become unpopular in a real hurry, isn't it?

I don't know what else to say, just yikes.
post #111 of 178

friends

I am not here to make friends. I have plenty of real life in the flesh reach out and touch friends. I am here to speak my mind, ask questions, and find answers. I have learned a few things on this forum as well as taught a few things on this forum. I will never think it is ok to let my child or your child go 4 days without a bath. Sorry it is never gonna happen. If you have questions about your child's hygiene and think I am incorrect about this take it up with your child's physician. I suspect they will agree that a child needs a bath and an infant doesn't need to play with sticks.
Since I know it happens, yet I can't imagine why people are so truly ignorant, I am unsubscribing to this thread. If you want to me stinky go ahead - but I don't want to smell you.
post #112 of 178
I have a theory that lice, like mosquitoes, choose their hosts based on somethign entirely different than hygiene.
I have never had lice, even my daughter who has attended many sleepovers which were followed by a call "my daughter was at the sleepover and we found out the next day she has lice" has never had it. She has shared a bed with friends who learned they had lice the very next day. It went round and round her school and girl scout troop. And we never have had it.

And that all on 2 baths/showers a week usually! (ok well I go every other day, I was talking about her)

Joline
post #113 of 178
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post #114 of 178
i let my child get dirty, and even our middle of the road, mainstream pediatrican thinks daily soap is bad for kids.

Sun (who has been known to lick her young)
post #115 of 178
Last time I checked. lice prefered CLEAN hair to dirty oily hair

It's easyer to grab onto the clean hair.

Easyer to lay eggs on the clean hair

With unwashed hair, natural oils build up creating an inhospitable environment for the critters. basicly scalp oils make the hair shaft too slippery for the lice to grab hold.

Sooo..don't be surpised if your immaculately groomed child comes home one day from school scratching her fool head off.

To be honest, Only time a human NEEDS a bath is when dirt/funk/sweat is pretty bad. with kids, it's usually when the skin looks tanned when you know it's the dead of winter. I was bathed once a week on Sundays when I was in elementary school *Before puberty* and I NEVER got lice despite the dozens upon dozens of lice advisories my school sent out every year.

Get educated...and watch a few episodes of Mythbusters will ya?
post #116 of 178
Wow! I go away to play in the sandbox for a couple of days, and look what happened! OMG

FWIW, if I used soap on dd every day, as has been suggested, her skin would be a *mess* - she (and I ) have chronic exzema. My ped. is perfectly comfortable with our cleansing routine, thank you.

Oh, and being an attached mama I *do* tend to spend a lot of time with my baby - and know her skin and hair pretty much inch by inch - I feel very confident that if (or when!) we ever have to deal with lice I will know about it. It will also not be the end of the world, or any kind of judgement on my dd, or me as a parent. :

Off to kiss my beautiful, and slightly sticky dd - peach juice makes for a great facial, apparently :LOL
post #117 of 178
DD, 2.5, regularly comes in from the yard with dirt all around her mouth, in her hair, etc. DH calls the dirt around her mouth a "mudstache." :LOL

I know babydoll is no longer subscribed, but I would never send any of my kids to school dirty, and I know no one else here would either. DS just started kindergarten and while he may not shower/bath daily, he is always nice and clean when he goes to school.

Sometimes I just don't remember to bring a change of clothes to the park, and then we have to go to the store on the way home. I have 3 kids 5 and under. Going home and changing/bathing them and then going out to the store again would be a major ideal and would make us all miserable. If someone wants to think I'm neglectful, they can go right ahead and do so. I can't do anything about thier thinking--none of my business. I could bring them to the store totally clean and someone could judge me for nursing in public or not smacking my 2.5 yr old for screaming or tying to climb out of the cart.

My mom was great about dirt--she's let us get positivelly filthy. I remember having mud fights, "washing" our hair with mud, playing in the rain, etc. We have a picture of me around 10 months old playing in Central Park. It's a shot of me bending over, and all you can see is my muddy plastic pants diaper cover and a bit of chubby, dirty leg.

Yay for grubby, loved, happy kids!!
post #118 of 178
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Originally Posted by babydoll
Since I know it happens, yet I can't imagine why people are so truly ignorant, I am unsubscribing to this thread. If you want to me stinky go ahead - but I don't want to smell you.
Do you promise that you're really leaving this time?
post #119 of 178
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Originally Posted by johub
I have a theory that lice, like mosquitoes, choose their hosts based on somethign entirely different than hygiene.
I have never had lice, even my daughter who has attended many sleepovers which were followed by a call "my daughter was at the sleepover and we found out the next day she has lice" has never had it. She has shared a bed with friends who learned they had lice the very next day. It went round and round her school and girl scout troop. And we never have had it.

And that all on 2 baths/showers a week usually! (ok well I go every other day, I was talking about her)

Joline
I agree, my mom, my sister, and I have never had lice, despite lots of exposures, both as kids and adults.
I do get bitten by mosquitoes though.
As for the rest, I'll hold my tongue and count myself lucky to run into many of you at the grocery
post #120 of 178
*sigh*

You know if you have someone on ignore, you can still read their posts when people quote them? Very interesting.

You know, I would rather be ingorant than judgemental. Maybe my priorities lie in loving my children rather than bathing them 6 times a day making sure no one gets the wrong impression. Sheesh.
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