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post #141 of 165
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
I have a completely different perception of what happened on that thread. I was called a troll, and have posted in the diapering forum. That mama had bravely left her marriage, was dirt poor, was expecting a new baby any day, and was proud of her dipes, and was made to feel like crap. Maybe we could agree that there was enough misunderstanding and blame to go around on that thread?

You honestly don't think she was mocking any of the women here in any way??? I know my feelings were hurt when I read the first few posts...
post #142 of 165
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Originally Posted by Sustainer
If I were new at a message board or if I had only/mostly lurked at it, and I thought the board would be better if it were reorganized in a certain way, but it was obvious that most of the people who had regularly posted on the board for a long time preferred the current organization, I would never insist that my "vote" should be taken into consideration just as much as the "votes" of those who had been the actual regular posters on the board for a long time.
I cannot begin to tell you how much this attitude pisses me off. You do not own the forum. No one person owns this forum. There are many voices to listen to here. Some of us post only when we have a cloth diapering "crisis," some of us post all the time, and some of only lurk, but that certainly does not mean that any one person is more worthy of listening to than another. :
post #143 of 165
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Originally Posted by zexplorers
You honestly don't think she was mocking any of the women here in any way??? I know my feelings were hurt when I read the first few posts...
I personally know that mama, and no, I don't. She was looking for a little joy in a joyless situation. That's all.
post #144 of 165
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
I personally know that mama, and no, I don't. She was looking for a little joy in a joyless situation. That's all.
That's the problem with the internet in general isn't it?? Words on a message board are not real communication - you can't see the facial expressions, or hear the voice inflections or even "know" the person to understand their background. I know I was not the only woman to feel mocked and berated yet I do not recall her trying to explain things as the discussion got completely out of hand. The women on this board are extremely generous and compassionate when given the chance
post #145 of 165
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Originally Posted by zexplorers
That's the problem with the internet in general isn't it?? Words on a message board are not real communication - you can't see the facial expressions, or hear the voice inflections or even "know" the person to understand their background. I know I was not the only woman to feel mocked and berated yet I do not recall her trying to explain things as the discussion got completely out of hand. The women on this board are extremely generous and compassionate when given the chance
Well, if you're feeling generous, say a quick prayer for us- we're off the the ER for my baby boy.
post #146 of 165
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Originally Posted by threeforme2005
Believe it or not...the "SHOW OFF" threads HELP our fellow WAHMs! I buy fluff and wool from show off threads. I see products on babes and see how they fit. I love it when someone brags about something because it must be GREAT! And guess what? It makes me want to try something out!

The WAHMs are the ones that are going to take the brunt of this by "hiding" away the stocking announcements and the "show off" threads.
I agree. I know there are tons of dipes I wouldn't have tried if people hadn't posted them.


It doesn't seem to matter though. It appears the choice is made, and those of us against the spilt just aren't doing a good enough job expressing why we are against it. Have fun. I need a break from this nonsense. What we put on our babies butts should not cause this much drama and frustration.
post #147 of 165
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
Well, if you're feeling generous, say a quick prayer for us- we're off the the ER for my baby boy.

Absolutely mama!! Absolutely!!! : Update when you can
post #148 of 165
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Originally Posted by zexplorers
That's the problem with the internet in general isn't it?? Words on a message board are not real communication - you can't see the facial expressions, or hear the voice inflections or even "know" the person to understand their background. I know I was not the only woman to feel mocked and berated yet I do not recall her trying to explain things as the discussion got completely out of hand. The women on this board are extremely generous and compassionate when given the chance
Exactly exactly exactly! And boy do I sure know all about communication issues via a text only forum...it's really hard to relay what you really mean online. And yes also to feeling mocked and berated on that thread. Funny how so many women feel that way and yet it's not really what was going on? Very hard to relay emotions...indeed!
post #149 of 165
wow i kinda missed this thread...but i like the idea of the regular diapering area being called diapering chat or "everything you want to know about diapers" and the stock/diaper display subforum to be called "fluffymail" or "Diaper Exhibit/Display".
post #150 of 165
I'm against the split. And I was a new-to-mothering poster 2 years ago and I don't think the Diapering board is as "hyena" driven as it has been in the past. I definitely think it had a good mixture lately of posts. And I don't like the split. Just my two cents, not like it's going to change anything. I'll just be scarce.
post #151 of 165
I am quite shocked at some of the negative language used here. I do not think it leads to compassionate communcation. It seems to be a matter of perception--I am an avid diaperer, I love to talk diapers, but I also love to help others to find that. I do not see reorganization as banishment or as segregating, I see it as taking an overwhelmed, busy forum and making it more user friendly and accessible to everyone--not just the regulars.

To the person who insinuated some lurkers only come out on these threads, that is quite unfair. I have made a large number of my posts in Diapering, but I felt it did not serve the purpose in which I needed it for so I posted here less and less. But I bet my overall totals show a high level of posts here, as others would probably too. Not to mention, recently my son has learned to the use the toliet and my passion lies with Diaper Advocacy and Support rather than about buying.

I agree, people are using this forum for 2 purposes. What is wrong with organizing it as such? I see it merely as an organizational tool--not one to segregate, banish, hide or deter consumerism. I am against rampant consumerism, but that does not mean I need the forum to cater to my life philosophy. However, this is a Natural Living Community, and part of natural living is being conscious of consumerism and how what you buy and use effects the earth and others around you.

I think it is wonderful we support WAHMS, that diapers are becoming more and more labors of love and gorgeous creations and that there is a market in which we can have products that run the gamut. But some contend it does not overwhelm the basics, the questions and the threads seeking advice, but it does for me and clearly it does for others. For me it is not about hyena versus basic, consumption versus conscious buying--it is about promoting and supporting the use of cloth diapers as a real, viable diapering option.

I do think there are way too many subforums, and that they could easily be more streamlined and organized as not to have so much to wade through. And I think that moving reviews in a central location will help, as well as combined the archives. Also, rethinking the FAQs might be helpful as well.
post #152 of 165
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Originally Posted by nakagain
I think all the different boards are annoying. Having a basic diapering FAQ page is great but if I want to talk about diapers, I don't want to figure out which board to post on. If I get an awesome diaper in the mail, I don't want to feel as if I'm wrong in posting my excitment because I didn't post it in the brag section.

Keep it simple!!

I'm a day late and a dollar short but this is my opinion too. I love the idea of a FAQ page because there is so much great info on questions that come up over and over again that gets "lost". Other than that, I really don't want to be switching back and forth between forums trying to find out where to post stuff. I wouldn't know the difference between "diapering 101" and "diapering chat". The "show off" board would be pretty self explanatory I guess, but since I'm not a hyena diaper user I'd probably never go there and I'd probably miss some good stuff.
post #153 of 165
I don't think separating the "stocking and show-off" thread will be hiding it away at all!!!

I don't even have kids, but I check the Diapering board a few times a week just to see what new adorable things people have scored!! If they are divided, I would check the subforum more than the main forum. JMHO.
post #154 of 165
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
That mama had bravely left her marriage, was dirt poor, was expecting a new baby any day, and was proud of her dipes, and was made to feel like crap.
If the diapering mamas thought that someone was simply expressing genuine enthusiasm and pride in her prefold, we would NEVER say anything negative. I really wish you would stop describing the incident by saying that someone posted a picture of her prefold and was met with negative comments. You keep leaving out the crucial fact that the only reason anyone said anything negative is because we felt we were being made fun of, as a result of several of the comments that accompanied the picture.

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Originally Posted by annettemarie
I cannot begin to tell you how much this attitude pisses me off.
Why does it tick you off for me to say what I personally would or would not do on another message board? I'm sorry you're upset that I wouldn't go to TAO and say 'anyone here who wants to talk about xyz should do it on a subforum from now on, because then this forum will conform to my standards better.' Keep in mind, I did not say anything about what anyone else should or should not do. I simply said what I wouldn't do. I also didn't say that there's any voice that shouldn't be listened to.
post #155 of 165
I think that buying cloth diapers is fully in line with NFL, conscious buying, environmentalism, and responsibility to the community.
post #156 of 165
but my little guy is fine- he had nursemaid's elbow- he has a bad habit of making his feet go slack and drag when we are walking through parking lots, and I feel like a crappy mama right now, but he's fine.

Meco, you're right and I apologize- I won't contribute to the negativity any longer. I am truly sorry some mamas here are hurt, and I hope it all works out for the best.
post #157 of 165
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
but my little guy is fine- he had nursemaid's elbow- he has a bad habit of making his feet go slack and drag when we are walking through parking lots, and I feel like a crappy mama right now, but he's fine.

Thank goodness your little one is OK. Hope your evening gets better.
post #158 of 165
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
but my little guy is fine- he had nursemaid's elbow- he has a bad habit of making his feet go slack and drag when we are walking through parking lots, and I feel like a crappy mama right now, but he's fine.

Meco, you're right and I apologize- I won't contribute to the negativity any longer. I am truly sorry some mamas here are hurt, and I hope it all works out for the best.


Glad your buddy is ok. We've been to the ER for the same thing..then I learned how to reset it myself and had to about 3 more times. Apparently once it happens once, it's easier to have happen again, just an FYI. And my kids do the same thing in the parking lot..they thinks it's a hysterical game (until DS's elbow pops out of place!)
post #159 of 165
I guess I'm still confused about the separation of the forums. There are many threads in the main Diapering forum, relating to "what's your baby wearing" and posts about fluffy mail and such, that have many posts, and weren't moved to the "Stocking and Show Off" forum? I thought that was what it was supposed to be for.

Maybe the mods just haven't stopped by yet this afternoon.
post #160 of 165
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Originally Posted by meco
I do think there are way too many subforums, and that they could easily be more streamlined and organized as not to have so much to wade through. And I think that moving reviews in a central location will help, as well as combined the archives. Also, rethinking the FAQs might be helpful as well.
I heartily agree with this.
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