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post #41 of 66
For those with mirena....do you feel the hormones have in any way affected milk supply?

I'm leaning towards mirena because I don't want heavy periods. I'm not crazy about the idea of hormones but in weighing the differences I'm thinking mirena. I'm going to wait until April I believe. I don't want to have an IUD inserted until after AF returns. DS will be 2 next month and I'm assuming AF will return any day now. After my first baby AF returned at 24 months and 2 weeks. I figure I should have AF by April. I just don't want it inserted now and deal with spotting and bleeding before I have to.
post #42 of 66
Thread Starter 
Kleine Hexe- You had a few questions that I can answer from personal exp. First, the milk supply. I didn't notice it getting low- but I did notice they are a bit more tender sometimes. Not all the time, but it reminds me of early pregnancy tenderness. Also the AF issue- I got my Merina at 6 months PP because I was thinking that with my first DD my AF came back at 6 months so I was thinking so would AF after my second who nursed less than my first- I had very very light spotting (not really even enough for a pad) and that lasted for 2 days then nothing- I have now 9 1/2 months PP and still have not had AF and I am thinking having the IUD has stopped it from starting. I do sometimes feel like I should start but then nothing happends.
post #43 of 66
I loved the Mirena IUD when I had my first one before my son. I got a second one about 4 months after he was born and around the same time began having milk supply problems. Every source I came across said the Mirena wouldn't cause that. I finally did some hardcore research of my own on PubMed and came to the conclusion that in fact, in about 20% of women the progesterone IUD does affect milk supply negatively. But it's not there in black and white in the few studies on the issue because the researchers really haven't looked at it. I had to kind of extrapolate. Most of the studies on b/c and lactation focused on whether the babies were growing adequately...and most of the babies in these studies were supplemented with formula or early solids so you can't really tell much about how the b/c method affected lactation. However there was one study I found that looked at age of weaning in Mirena IUD mothers versus copper IUD mothers...the difference was quite stark. About 20% more mothers in the Mirena IUD group had fully weaned their babies by 5 months compared to the copper IUD mothers. To me that is a significant finding! However the researchers concluded that the Mirena did not affect lactation because the infants were all growing just fine

There's really no way to know if you'll be part of the 80% or the 20%, unfortunately, but in the very limited discussion of this issue on Lactnet (an email list for lactation professionals) some lactation consultants have reported that if a mother got Mirena and then had a drop in milk and then took the Mirena out, the milk supply generally came right back. So if your insurance covers it, it may be worth a try. Too risky, I would think, to try if you have to pay out of pocket.
post #44 of 66
Thread Starter 
I can see the merina effecting longer nursing. The breast tenderness reminds me of when I got pregnant with my second DD when I was still nursing my first- but on a lower scale, but same type of pain. I can see mothers in more pain and just stopping nursing because of that. Perhaps my milk supply went down, but I am not sure- my DD is kinda a solid freak- and has been from about the time I got the IUD (even if I tried to hold her back- she had NONE of that!) I still leak major and I think sometimes I have a lower supply than I did with my first, but then again I my baby is 10 months old and I should not be as full as I once was.

Perhaps women also stop nursing v's getting the IUD out because they don't know their milk supply issues or pain would stop- if it took you that much work to find it I am sure most would not look. I think I would have thought "point of no return" and not have thought it would fix it to get it out...

I was assured that the merina would not hurt my milk supply- but I knew it was crap to listen to how a med will effect my body- ya know?

All in all I am happy with it and I can't believe more women don't have these.
post #45 of 66
I got Mirena IUDs 6 weeks after the births of my two latest babies. I never noticed any drop in milk supply and successfully nursed both of them for over a year (still going strong with my youngest who is 14 months old).
post #46 of 66
Paragaurd (copper) and I hate it. I've had it for three years now and the cramping is still there, not as bad, but still. And the heavy every three week periods are a nightmare. I'm looking at having mine removed, not sure what to use though. Not in a relationship so it doesn't really matter right now.
post #47 of 66
I have the Mirena and haven't noticed a decrease in milk supply. I am tandem nursing and pumping 3X a day!

I got mine at about 6 months PP.
post #48 of 66
I'm getting a Mirena today, in about 3 hours to be exact! I'm getting it to help with the nighmare periods I've been having for the last 9 months.

Dh got a vas when I was 3 months pregnant, sick as hell and never wanting to go throug another pregnancy. Gawd I LOVE this man! Anyway, I'm bummed that I'm having to look to a hormone based birth control method to deal with this, but so be it.

My periods have been 3 weeks apart, 7 days long with bleeding so heavy 5 out of those days that I wear an extra super tampon and a pad and I still leak!!! At night I wear depends.

I've seen my hbmw, cnm and an OB, had blood tests run, everything is normal. Their unified guess is that I'm in peri-menapause. OK, fine - but I can not continue to function like this! Nuttin like having to get up in the middle of an important meeting to change your tampon, and you pad, and your underwear....every effing month!!!

I soooo hope that this works. I've never had a problem with the pill, in fact, the only thing that has happened to me on the pill is weight loss! Cheers to that side effect! I just want some relief!!!
post #49 of 66
At what point in your cycle are you during insertion? The nurse I spoke with scheduled my appt for the week before I'm supposed to start my period. She said the OB told her that's when it needed to be done. Everyone else I have spoken to says that is wrong. So I'm thinking the nurse has no clue and misunderstood. I have *zero* confidence in this nurse. (no offense to any nurses here)
post #50 of 66
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Originally Posted by nonconformnmom
I was determined not to use hormones; but my OB told me that Mirena's hormones are trace amounts and they stay localized within the uterus (I think this is right), so they don't enter the bloodstream. She also said the Mirena is safe to use while breastfeeding.
I would like to get a Mirena as well after the baby's born because I've read too that the amount of hormones was extremely low compared to the pill.
post #51 of 66
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Originally Posted by Kleine Hexe
At what point in your cycle are you during insertion? The nurse I spoke with scheduled my appt for the week before I'm supposed to start my period. She said the OB told her that's when it needed to be done. Everyone else I have spoken to says that is wrong. So I'm thinking the nurse has no clue and misunderstood. I have *zero* confidence in this nurse. (no offense to any nurses here)
My cnm does them during your period as they are easier to get in at this time. I had it put in on Monday. I barely felt a thing...hardly any cramping at all! I'm bleeding quite a lot still but I'm happy for that, I figure the faster my uterus empties (Mon was my first day of my period) the less time I may spot.
post #52 of 66
i chose Mirena becasue I have really heavy periods. I am 9 mos pp and no ppaf , yet. I have mood swings and i think I am having depression issues due to Mirena, so i may be switching to paragaurd... I don't know...
post #53 of 66
tarablesue ~ I found that within a day or two of having my Mirena removed, my mood swings lessened and my anxiety and depression were mostly relieved. I have had issues in the past with anxiety and depression and find that I am super sensitive to anything hormonal.

The removal only took a minute and I don't remember feeling anything other than being uncomfortable due to the speculum. It has been out probably for about 6 weeks now and I find myself every couple of days thinking how glad I am that I decided to just take it out rather than wait a few more months like I was going to. For me, it was just an almost constant feeling of being on edge ~ everything annoyed me and I would have huge reactions to things that normally don't phase me. I am currently 5 1/2 months pp.

Want to mention again that the weight loss continues still after the removal of Mirena on which I gained about 10 lbs.
post #54 of 66
I just had a mirena inserted last Thursday. I was on my second day of my cycle. The insertion was not as bad as I thought it would be. I had mild cramping afterward and took some motrin. That was it. No cramps since then. My menstrual bleeding stopped sooner than usual. I normally bleed for 5 to 7 days and by day 4 I was done. I'm not spotting so far at all. Now I hope that everything continues to run smoothly and I have no adverse side effects.
post #55 of 66
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Originally Posted by farmlife3
tarablesue ~ I found that within a day or two of having my Mirena removed, my mood swings lessened and my anxiety and depression were mostly relieved. I have had issues in the past with anxiety and depression and find that I am super sensitive to anything hormonal.

The removal only took a minute and I don't remember feeling anything other than being uncomfortable due to the speculum. It has been out probably for about 6 weeks now and I find myself every couple of days thinking how glad I am that I decided to just take it out rather than wait a few more months like I was going to. For me, it was just an almost constant feeling of being on edge ~ everything annoyed me and I would have huge reactions to things that normally don't phase me. I am currently 5 1/2 months pp.

Want to mention again that the weight loss continues still after the removal of Mirena on which I gained about 10 lbs.

What form of bc are you using now? Paragaurd? I am making an appointment with my doctor to see if paraguard will be right for me... for the first 4-6 cycles postpaurtum , they are realllllyyyyyy heavy and if copper iud increases that , I am leary. But i know I am done having children( for now) and i don't want sterilization for either of us.( Beacuse i still see a little newborn and I can't ignore that )
Thanks!
post #56 of 66
For now we are using condoms. I am opting for sterilization for myself as pregnancy is very difficult on my body and I feel done. I would love to try the Paraguard but I think I have decided against it for the increased cramping and bleeding - I've got enough of that already.

Wish you well with your decision making. I am just overwhelmed by it sometimes and wish that there were better options available.
post #57 of 66
I just had a Paragaurd IUD inserted today. I don't have any children, have been on the pill for several years, and continually had nausea and other stomach problems. I tried the patch once, and after having it on for less then a day, was vomiting. So, I'm very sensitive to hormones, and when I heard that the FDA had finally approved Paragaurd for women who hadn't had children, I wanted to try it. I had it inserted during my period, and I won’t lie, it did hurt quite a bit, though the Dr said mine was easier then many women she's done who haven't had kids. There's still a lot of cramping, which I'm hoping will go away in the next couple of days.

Some info my Dr told me that others might find helpful is that the risk of serious side effects are no greater with an IUD then with the pill, just different. She said that most people who use the Mirena IUD don't have hormonal side effects, though a few do, especially petite women. And in women who haven't had children, about half can't tolerate the pain during insertion and have her stop. She also said that if your periods where in the light-normal range before, then the Paragaurd might bring them into the normal-slightly heavy range. If they're already heavy, she recommends trying Mirena first.

As I’m only on the first day, I can’t say if I like it or not yet, but I'm optimistic and hopeful, as I really want a non hormonal birth control method that’s highly effective.
post #58 of 66
Well I am about 3 weeks out from removal of Mirena and I am feeling MUCH better. I am terrified of getting pregnat and calling my insurance to see if they will cover Paraguard.( They covered Mirena 100%, don't know if they will cover another within a yera time frame though.) For now we're playing with fire, using nothing but w/d
post #59 of 66
I had a copper IUD for six months...the cramping was not bad, but I had alot of extra discharge and spotting between periods, which really bugged me and then I got pregnant! Anyway, the IUD was removed and sadly I miscarried a week later. I don't think I would get one again, but if I did, I would still try to pay attention to my cycle, since they aren't foolproof! Just thought I should share that...
post #60 of 66
I had a paraguard put in December '04 and found out I was two months pregnant in May '05. Apparently, IUDs won't work for me. We are now using condoms (when we actually have sex) and plan on using them until we TTC next winter.
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