Joan, I know you're not dissing me for removing the thread, and, I agree that the thread I requested be permanently removed, was important.
Given the effort and information it takes to do one of these thread, I'll only do the next one when I "know" I feel safe here. And that's up to the board to let me know that.
I'm preparing a biothread already, not neceesarily to use here anyway... but because I like to regularly go through these issues myself, and it forms the basis for a family manual. But I'm not going to attempt to put it up yet because.... because I KNOW there are going to be people who will feel personally threatened by the thread. I know I did, the first time I took part in one elsewhere, and the reason I felt threatened was because my own previous lack of vision and thought was being exposed.
If the other thread provocated that level of rejoinder, talking about even more important and threatening issues, requires a level of control and calm that is much greater than "think on this" did. Responses must not be instant, and must be thought through carefully. I'm at an advantage, if I'm the only one here that's done this before. I may not be. I don't know. But I do know that biothreads can get people very emotional.
Your not talking about two hours of "apocalypse now" and then going home to normality.
You're talking about taking yourself and people right out of a comfort zone.
We're not talking about Jeff, and "survivor" where at any moment a helicopter can whisk you out of there.
You're talking about live and death at a much closer and more dangerous level. So people who read it, will have to be prepared to suck up emotions and think through their responses before they hit submit. People have to realise that to put these things out there makes the "putter" in as fragile a position as the "reader".
In a biothread, where inevitably there isn't much a government can do to help on a really meaningful level, and sometimtes what they do do, can threaten your existence, suggestions will include a lot of sensitive ideas, not just some of what was said before, but also medical supplies, nursing methods, reality of isolation, thinking laterally, information for which "scientific" proof is lacking. It might include detailed descriptions of methods to do things, key things to think about, remedy recipes, nursing methods, supplies you need to consider; the very stuff some people would consider medical advice, which it isn't.
and it will challenge you to the ends of your hair.
The question is, are you prepared to take on that challenge and meet it with calm and maturity and not shoot the messenger in the process?
It's what you do when your back is to the wall, and no-one else either has answers or gives a damn, because they're running scared.
the question is, is this board ready, and does it have the maturity to discuss these issues without losing the plot along the way?
You have to keep a balance between realising that this could be for real, but also treating it as a technical exercise.
Remember that CDC does do this, as is FEMA supposed to. But I have no faith in centralised solutions especially where the people thinking through the solutions may go outside their brief
for the very reason that they themselves will be personally threatened by the very thing they are supposed to be fighting.
Therefore in bio issues, even more than other issues, the individual needs to do the hard yards, and get on board with a close knit group of equally committed people, realising that you never know what each other is really made of, until the H really hits the fan, and you're facing the issue front on...
In these situations, total confidence in Government to SY butt, is misplaced, for the simple reason that there is 269? million of you, and how many of them? Further more, in a really dangerous situation which may be far more widespread than a hurricane, much of the population elsewhere can also develop a siege mentality.
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