Bleeding, antibiotics, immuglobin, tetnaus

[Rainbow Brite]

I'm looking for some info

Here's what I want to get a copy of to keep in the car and the diaper bag in case we ever have to go the er and was wondering if anyone has any of it.

1. Something showing that a wound that bleeds can not get tetnaus (something legit to show to a dr)

2. I read somewhere here that a dr said tetnaus can be treated w/antibiotics, I'd like that too please

3. The link saying you need 3 tetnaus shots to be effective (therefore giving at the er is not helpful)

4. Immunoglobin info (there's a link I asked for before and will look up and link here, but wanted to mention it in case anyone else decides to get all this info on hand)

I'm thinking this would at least help keep my mind straight in a situation if tetnaus was pushed and would not be helpful.

Thanks

[Rainbow Brite]

Here is the thread on the immunoglobin with links and info.

[LongIsland]

I know you want to be prepared, but in most instances you'll be actually preparing for a fight. And it won't be just one ER worker you'll be explaining yourself to. You'll likely get asked the same question by everyone who reads the chart --- "It says you're refusing the tetanus vax, why are you refusing?" Then that person will get another doc to try and convince you and the cycle goes on.

After reading all the ER stories on this board, might I suggest something better? Practice saying this a few times in your head before heading to the ER:

Yes, we're up-to-date on our vaxes.

[alegna]

Honestly I wouldn't argue in an ER. I'd just say over and over if needed that we don't vax for religious reasons (or philosophical if your state has that and you're okay with that- personally I'm more comfortable using "religion")

-Angela

[Rainbow Brite]

If we were asked vaccination status at the ER, I would say we are up to date, but apparently you "have" to fill out a form checking off the vaxxes your dc has gotten. I've never come across this, but the receptionist at my chiro took her daughter in this summer and my chiro told me. I would imagine if you don't fill out the forms, it would be a big fight as well. So I just want to be prepared, but I do agree with what you are saying.

[LongIsland]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Brite

I would imagine if you don't fill out the forms, it would be a big fight as well.

I agree, I can see leaving it blank opening up a can of worms and then the never-ending questions may start.

In that case, you could either check off all the CDC recommended vaxes or as Alegna suggested, use religion. You can put a line across the page and write the words "The practice of immunization is contrary to our religious beliefs" or "Religious Exemption."

That's great your receptionist gave you a heads up!

[Rainbow Brite]

Yes thanks, that probably would be a good idea. Also, we don't even have the dtap alone, we only have the combo - datp + hib + polio. Nice eh? I would still love any of this info just for my own comfort knowing there is protection from tetnaus (bleeding, antibiotics) just for peace of mind.

[Plummeting]

Here is a link with info on antibiotic prevention/treatment of tetanus:

http://www.*********/a/tenpenny1.html


"Antibiotic regimens are available for the treatment of both tetanus and diphtheria infections. The Red Book™, published by the American Academy of Pediatrics makes a suggestion for an alternative treatment for tetanus. The antibiotic, metronidazole (30 mg/kg/day) given at 6-hour intervals is effective in reducing the bacterial count in a wound. Metronidazole is the antibiotic of choice for dirty wounds. Another choice is injectible penicillin G (100 000 U/kg/day), given at 4- to 6-hour intervals. These therapies should be continued for 10 to 14 days (14). It appears that a prophylactic course of antibiotics would be prudent for dirty wounds to prevent the possibility of C. tetani germination and toxin production."

[Rainbow Brite]

Thank you so much. I'm a planner, I like to be prepared. I really appreciate everyone's help

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

RB, the problem is that sometimes you can be prepared to the gunnels and you'll meet a doctor to whom nothing matters except relieving his own physician's distress at your or your child's expense.

I'm not at home at the moment, so I've no access to my tet info.

[Rainbow Brite]

Thanks,

Yeah I figure anything would be a losing cause at the er, but I just feel like knowlege is power, and hopefully the more I know on the topic, the less likely I'll be to panic and just say yes to vaxxing when it would be useless, esp since we only have the 5 in 1 combo :
Plus, I'd like to know if bleeding does prevent tetnaus and that there are other methods of treating it should anything ever happen. But hopefully dc will never get hurt

[Sherra]

ER docs are very good at hinting to bringing CPS in when they want to..even went so far as to tell me they have the office "just down the hall" to talk to me if needed. I had it threatened against me when a nurse who had never catheratized an infant was making my baby scream for over 30 mins until I put a stop to it. Finally they got someone from pediatrics to come in and they did it in less than 30 seconds with no screaming.

There is a ton of info on tetanus in here that should help put your mind to rest. I can't recall what threads tho....


Sherra