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post #81 of 94
I found this thread and thought it to be toatally crazy! i think I have to agree with this post.
Lisa

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Originally Posted by Linda on the move
My DDs have Barbies. They got interested in Barbie when they were very young and now (they are 7 and 8) have pretty much outgrown Barbie.

I agree with pretty much everything you are saying about Barbies, but the bottom line for me is that I don't feel the need to control which toys my kids can play with. When I was weighing the decision, I had to figure out which of my parenting values was more important -- my desire to give my kids as much control over their own lives as possible OR my dislike for Barbie's unrealistic proportions.

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post #82 of 94
My family deals with forbidden gifts the same way we deal with halloween candy (they are allergic to blue 1 and red 40, and are not allowed to have caremel, and are restricted on their chocolate intake)

We still go trick-or-treating, but we sort the candy together picking out the red, blue, orange, caramel, and green candies that they cannot have. Then we weigh the candy and I pay them per pound store value that I would have to pay to buy the candy. Then we go to the storeand they can use that money to buy something they are allowed to have like a toy or sugar-free naturally-dyed candy.

Essentially, your kids won't be dissappointed when they can't have a gift they are given if they are allowed to return it for something else they are allowed to have. And you can STILL instill your values about the forbidden item by talking about it with your child and looking at it when you are returning it. It DEFINITELY does not need to stay in your house for you to teach how much you dislike it and why.I think that's rather counter-productive, as it can teach your children to accept meekly the things that they despise instead of standing up for what they beleive in. (my opinion)
post #83 of 94

It's the priciple

Yeah sure Barbie seems harmless, and a lot of our generation played with them...

There is also a lot of image issues and eating disorders with our generation too, had to come from somewhere...

I just tell my 4yr. old I'm sorry honey our family does not buy into Barbie, she is not an appropriate toy (BratZ dolls included) . If she plays with them somewhere else that's fine. I'm just not spending any money where Barbie is concerned.

She seems to be ok with it and at Target the other day when we went by the "dreded " isle, she kept saying , " That's not appropriate mom, they shouln't have Barbie here" Can't tell you how happy I was, even if I got some weird looks from other moms.
post #84 of 94
rebeccer~~



your raising a smart little girl! :LOL
post #85 of 94
I played with Barbie. I wanted to grow up to look like my mom and aunts. I really don't have a problem with the doll herself.

What I do have a problem with is mass-produced, environmentally harmful, consumerist crap.

When my dd is old enough to specifically ask for a Barbie, if she does, we will find one at a second hand store or a garage sale.
post #86 of 94
My mom wouldn't buy me barbies but I was welcome to buy them with my own money. I had several and I loved them! Every birthday for several years I'd use my cash gifts to buy barbie stuff. I loved barbie and yet I turned out quite well adjusted :LOL

I'll probably buy barbies for dd if she wants them. I'm just over being terribly concerned about things that I honestly don't think make that big of a difference in the grand scheme of life. It takes a lot more than a few barbie dolls to create an eating disorder, imho.
post #87 of 94
We had a barbie (she tanned and her scalp turned so you could choose blond or brown hair). I never really thought of her as the perfect female form or compared myself to her, she just fit better in the dollhouse than my other dolls. I think my body image problems came from my dad telling me I was fat, not barbie.
post #88 of 94
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Originally Posted by luckylady
Not only are Barbie's proportions all wrong, so are super models in magazines. Did you know that the women, who are already a standard most of us cannot meet up to...
Interesting phrasing. I have no desire to "meet up to" the "standards" of a fashion model. I think many (most?) of them look unhealthy, and not particularly attractive. Photoshopping them to exaggerate that just strikes me as odd. I'm not sure why a look that a healthy woman would find virtually impossible to achieve is considered desirable by some, but it doesn't interest me at all.

With respect to dd - I think she'll learn a lot more about what it means to be a woman from interacting with me and her aunts and grandmothers on a day-to-day basis than she'll ever learn from some stupid doll someone buys her, if they happen to do so.

I didn't like Barbie as a child. I enjoyed toy cars, stuffed toys, Lego, my microscope, my cap rifle, my Etch-a-Sketch, running around outside, magic tricks....lots of things. I have serious issues with food, if not a full-blown eating disorder. That's not because of pictures in magazines or skinny celebrities, and it's certainly not because of the Barbies I didn't play with. It's because the wife of the man who was molesting me bought me off with candy. Barbie doesn't worry me that much - there are much more malign influences on children's thinking.
post #89 of 94
At 4 years old I don't think my dd needs a fashion doll, anyway.

As much as I hate barbie, if she gets to be 7 or so and wants a fashion doll, I much prefer barbie to Bratz. I have an all out ban on anything Bratz related and I'm not giving an inch on it. She calls them "those dolls that mommy hates!" >:/
post #90 of 94
recently, the Barbie's in my house staged a protest against Circuses, Fur, and the Iams company. ( that was damn funny).
1 Barbie is a Midwife and has a complete set of tools and bags that she takes with her to the homebirths of the other Barbies. It is also widely accepted in our home that poor Barbie cannot breastfeed because she was born without nipples, poor dear.

The point to my insanity? Barbie and playing with dolls are what you and your child make of them. Likewise you can let a couple of rowdy kids loose with a couple of handcrafted Waldorf dolls and watch them wrestle and craft guns out of sticks.
post #91 of 94
For me personally, banning a toy is extreme. Obviously guns and violent ones go without saying. But even then you can't control when your hcildren are not with you.

With that goes teaching. I don't mind barbie, it's a toy and there are great Barbie movies now that mine actually like. My girls are taught it is all fake, barbie is not built right etc...no reality in it. A toy plain and simple. This goes for any type toys I may have issue with.
post #92 of 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by HerthElde
I played with Barbie. I wanted to grow up to look like my mom and aunts. I really don't have a problem with the doll herself.

What I do have a problem with is mass-produced, environmentally harmful, consumerist crap.

When my dd is old enough to specifically ask for a Barbie, if she does, we will find one at a second hand store or a garage sale.
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I had Barbies growing up and I never thought one way or the other over what her body type was. I am heavyset and came from a long line of heavyset CONFIDENT women. I think we learn our body image more from the females in our lives than a toy, tv, magazines, etc.
post #93 of 94
I wouldn't actually forbid because I think that would create allure, but I've so far been successful at keeping Barbie away from our reality. When we visit the thrift store (our only toy shopping place) I always scan the lower shelf and toss any barbies up high and out of sight. Working so far! Also, we have a few homemade hand puppets and dolls, one a princess, and we do a lot of fantasy role play so there's no big need for another doll.
post #94 of 94

barbie banashment

I can not imagine how my chlidhood would have been without barbie...i would have had to play "camping" with my brothers 500x a day! I was a tomboy when i was young and yes i had barbie too. Of course most of my barbies had some type of limb missing or deformity from doing transformer/barbie battles :LOL But anyway i can't wait to get barbie for my daughter. I bought her one from sal. army but she hasn't played with it much. She's sort of into puzzles (and when outside watching the guys on the motorcycles Yikes!) and other things. I had so many good memories and i can;t wait for her to have them too.

ps...my cousin and i would imagine barbie getting kidnapped by "goonies" or lilltle cavemen and having to escape. She even got to kiss, she'd kiss ken and other barbies..lol see we had diverse imaginations!
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