C-section Spears Baby - Page 5

[2much2luv]

Be glad she gives you something to lasso your halos around!

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[Raven]

Originally Posted by simonee

Come on if she had had an unassisted water birth, she would have been a better nfl mama than all you ladies, and then you would have just had to go back to bitching about Paris or whoever the starlet-bitchee of the month is. Now at least you get to feel related to cool stars like Gwyneth and Angelina, who MAY EVEN BE MEMBERS HERE!!! Would you wanna share your cyberhome away from home with Evil Britney? Be glad she gives you something to lasso your halos around!

*giggle*

[jstar]

well she is breastfeeding! so she can get an AP point there.

[The Lucky One]

Does anyone here think that there are women who are so mortally afraid of natural/vaginal childbirth with every fiber of their being that they may choose to have a c-section? And that those same women may also be very educated about the birthing process, etc?

I know if my dd (hypothetical dd, I am the mother of sons) expressed enormous fear of natural vaginal birthing, I would do my best to educate her and tell her my own experiences, but in the end the choice would be hers as it is her body. Some fears are hard to overcome, especially if there are alternate means to the same end available.

[Periwinkle]

Originally Posted by BurnsideMommy

IA lot then opt for a tummy tuck and perfecting surgery at the same time so the healing all takes place at the same time as the c-sec.

No way! Where do I sign up for that?



:LOL

[Leilalu]

My doctor asked if we were doing anything else after the surgery, such as tying the tubes, or a tuck or whatever. if only I would've known He was really great though, he told me the other doctor had left my muscles slightly seperated(as in, they seperated slightly and he could've stitched them up but didn't)and he stitched them up,explaining why he took a bit longer. It was very cool of him.

[mamaGjr]

Originally Posted by Leilalu

What I don't get though is this:
People wishing for her to have ugly scars????I mean, seriously people, that is just nasty. I have NEVER heard anyone who had to have a section wish for those having a vaginal birth to have a third degree tear or anything like that.

who was wishing that?

[annakiss]

Originally Posted by The Lucky One

Does anyone here think that there are women who are so mortally afraid of natural/vaginal childbirth with every fiber of their being that they may choose to have a c-section? And that those same women may also be very educated about the birthing process, etc?

I know if my dd (hypothetical dd, I am the mother of sons) expressed enormous fear of natural vaginal birthing, I would do my best to educate her and tell her my own experiences, but in the end the choice would be hers as it is her body. Some fears are hard to overcome, especially if there are alternate means to the same end available.

You're leaving out the pain of a cesarean though, which is more pain inflicted as opposed to vaginal birth which is pain based on work and which tends to go away quicker. I think to be deathly afraid of vaginal birth (I'm sure it's out there & possible) and still want a cesarean knowing that there will be lots of pain but that it's different, would be someone who has severe emotional issues. I just can't imagine a logical person making that choice when truly informed. Though I'm sure it's possible. And for those people, I guess it could be an option, but I do not see how it's reasonable for a surgeon to perform that procedure without a medical reason (even as arbitrary as the once-a-cesarean-always-a-cesarean mentality). Primary cesarean without medical cause is just unethical from the point of view of a medical professional as it violates that main tenant of the hypocratic oath: First do no harm.

[applejuice]

Originally Posted by annakiss

would be someone who has severe emotional issues. I just can't imagine a logical person making that choice when truly informed.

There are plenty of them. Which is why I usually keep quiet when women talk about childbirth, the advantages of the hospital , ans so on; why should I engage in a battle of wits with people who are unarmed?

Primary cesarean without medical cause is just unethical from the point of view of a medical professional as it violates that main tenant of the hypocratic oath: First do no harm.

Absolutely true.

Yet, the caesarean section meets the standard of obstetrical care in the U.S., which says somethng very sad about our culture. Many celebrities have had surgical births - Lucille Ball, Liz Taylor, of yesterday and you all know the ones today....

[The Lucky One]

Well, annakiss, I disagree that for a woman to have an irrational fear of natural/vaginal childbirth she must have 'severe emotional issues'.

Lots of people have phobias, some can overcome them, some cannot.

This may get me in a heap of trouble, but *I* personally would never have a homebirth. I know they are safe, wonderful, empowering, . I support anyone and everyone who chooses that route. I wish I could overcome my fear of the 'what-ifs' of homebirthing, but I cannot. I just can't. I can also assure you that I do not have any severe emotional issues.

eta: While there is no medical term for the fear of childbirth (like hydrophobia, arachnophobia, etc) that I know of, I think it is a little talked about thing. I personally know 3 people who are deathly frightened by the thought of giving birth. Two are childless by choice having undergone tubal ligation (in their mid-20's) and the 3rd had a baby by scheduled c-section last year.

[annakiss]

Originally Posted by The Lucky One

Well, annakiss, I disagree that for a woman to have an irrational fear of natural/vaginal childbirth she must have 'severe emotional issues'.

Lots of people have phobias, some can overcome them, some cannot.

This may get me in a heap of trouble, but *I* personally would never have a homebirth. I know they are safe, wonderful, empowering, . I support anyone and everyone who chooses that route. I wish I could overcome my fear of the 'what-ifs' of homebirthing, but I cannot. I just can't. I can also assure you that I do not have any severe emotional issues.

eta: While there is no medical term for the fear of childbirth (like hydrophobia, arachnophobia, etc) that I know of, I think it is a little talked about thing. I personally know 3 people who are extremely frightened by the thought of giving birth. Two are childless by choice having undergone tubal ligation (in their mid-20's) and the 3rd had a baby by scheduled c-section last year.

I guess I consider a phobia to be an emotional issue and if it stops you from doing something that seems logically reasonable, then it must be pretty severe. I do NOT think that this means that someone who has a phobia is emotionally disturbed or has a mental illness. I'm saying that there's an issue that's severe enough to impede logic. That seems reasonable to me. I didn't mean it in a judgmental way at all. I have some emotional issues myself.

[The Lucky One]

I guess I was just thinking along the lines of lets say a pg woman (Britney perhaps? Lucille Ball perhaps?) has such a deathly fear of having a vaginal birth that she spends her entire pg in a state of panic and anxiety? Because of her chronic anxiety she gets ill more often, can't eat well, baby doesn't grow as well in utero--see what I'm saying?

My point was for the (probably) handful of women who really and truly have a birth phobia, a scheduled planned way in advance c-section would be better for all involved. No? It's in these type of (rare) cases that I don't find fault for OB's performing surgical births for first time moms.

Oh, and I knew you weren't meaning to sound judgemental.

[applejuice]

I personally think that most women who elect caesarean births simply want to schedule their birth like the rest of their life. If that is judgemental, so be it, but that is my impression of these women, as I have known quite a few.

[MamaBug]

Originally Posted by Pigpen

I'm with you there. I've known too many people who have had C-secs and it's horrible! The recovery takes weeks, it can affect breastfeeding, and then there's the scarring, and scar tissue.

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I had a c/section after 42 hours of labor, while not terrible the recovery was awful and it did affect breastfeeding.I then had a repeat section because I have HUGE babies, and it was 100 times worse then the first one, fear of knowing it was coming and a much harder recovery coupled with scar tissue I would GLADLY go through another 42 hours of labor before another c/s. It was VERY painful recovery and I was terrified more by the planned one then the unknowns of labor, and I SUCK with pain.

I did hear on TV tonight that she IS breastfeeding, so that is good, his name is Sean Preston and I think he was 6 pounds and something. It does suck that she may have scared too many girls off of labor, but hopefully by the time many of her fans are of age to have babies, they will make a different choice. And again we don't know why she had one....to each his own.

[LadyMarmalade]

To the person who asked how far along she was - she was somewhere between 36 and 37 weeks. Personally I find that more disturbing than the fact she had an elective c-section (the lungs aren't fully developed at that stage). An elective c-section really only impacts the mother ... whereas demanding the baby be born 3 or 4 weeks early can impact the child. It seems that she chose the date to give birth according to the release of her new perfume (the birth was less than 24 hours before the release - originally she'd planned to have the two on the same day).

I'm happy baby Sean is being breastfed and that everything is going well. He was a good size (6 lb 11 oz) for an early bub!

There's an article with details here:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9358081/

[DawnaRose]

I'm happy for her, she has a healthy baby who I am sure she loves very much.

As to being terrified of childbirth, its not so uncommon, I was. :

I was 17 when I got pregnant with my 1st, and even though I was seeing a wonderful midwife I was terrified of the entire birthing process, and when I went in for one of my later appts and she discovered the baby was breech, I actually sighed in relief, that meant I could have a c/s and wouldn't have to go through labor and delivery. I then got transferred to an OB who scheduled a c/s for my due date, I can't tell you how relieved I felt, knowing that I wouldn't have to feel any pain, it just did not occur to me that a c/s was a major operation and that there *would* be pain and a long recovery!

The day before the c/s I went in for blood work and they did an u/s found out that O had turned on her own, was head down and had dropped, so no c/s for me... I actually went out to my car and cried, because I was so freaking scared... all I heard all my life was how horrible childbirth was, from just about every woman in my life...

2 weeks later I was in labor and havin that baby.... with my wonderful midwife by my side and totally natural. Afterwards I couldn't belive how much of a wimp I was thinking I couldn't *do* it.

[MamaBug]

See now I heard her due date was only next week? And like a PP said, for all we know she has some medical condition, wasn't there a problem with her placenta in the beginning, that might make this necessary and she just does not want ppl to know that?

[2much2luv]

Wow. How do you guys know so many details about her life???? :

[annakiss]

Originally Posted by 2much2luv

Wow. How do you guys know so many details about her life???? :

how does anyone know anything any more? The Internet! :LOL

[MamaBug]

Well I watch ET, Extra and I read the rags. A bad habit I agree : but better then crack:LOL