Scientology advises NOT to breastfeed??? - Page 5

[Nosebite]

OYE!!!!

[Sarah]

I just have to say that it is totally not a casual joke to go an make up your own "formula" to feed a baby- you can do some SERIOUS damage to that child and I can't believe that people are cooking some homemade concoction in a crock pot and they think that's OK.

Do they EVER test the levels of the necissary nutrients?

Check out this news story- ONE missing vitamin:
http://www.naba-breastfeeding.org/news.htm

[dukeswalker]

A pp mentioned an eariler thread w/ a nutritional annalysis on that "formula"http://mothering.com/discussions/sh...ighlight=barley

[Aaudreysmom]

That's fine. I am glad that I get a chance to try and clear this up. Like I said in my eariler post I know lots of Scientologist that BF here in LA.

I guess the reason this thread struck me as so strange is that infant feeding is not really a Scientology issue. There is no general rule that states "as a Scientologist one must feed the baby ......." Because Mr. Hubbard did write about what he experianced with his son does not make it a rule within Scientology. One of the first things you learn in Scientology it to think for yourself. Mr. Hubbard says "what's true is what's true for you". So to answer your question No BFing is not frowned upon by Scientologists it is left up to the individual (as is everything else) to determine their own course of action. And in general Scientologists, at least the ones I know who currently have babies do think breast is best. It is evident today from all the scientific info that BFing is better than anything else and the mother who gets that info I'm sure is more likley to BF than FF. I don't know what else I can say about it.

Again with regards to the formula itself keep in mind that L.Ron Hubbard was seeking an alternative to comercial formulas at the time. Jante Tamero says in her book "so that's what they're for" that "Women the the '30s and '40s used a mixture of Pet evaporated milkand Karo syrup". She goes on to tell what comercial baby formula is made with and it is truley disgusting. It does not suprise me that Mr. Hubbard tried to come up with his own formula after reading this.

[loon13]

Thanks for setting the record straight Aaudreysmom.

I appreciate all the info you and others have provided.

[Koloe]

Originally Posted by RosieTook

Well I had just started to read BattleField Earth, cause the movie was alright and my dh said I would love the book. It took me years to get up to it, since I can't stand Scientology...so here I was, ready to read it at last.

Then I saw this thread. I can't believe it. I don't think I'll be able to pick the book up now. I think I wanna throw it out, but it's dh's so I can't. Now to explain to him why I STILL won't be reading the book.

This is nasty, nasty...this is just CRAP!!!

Actually, BattleField Earth is a pretty good book IMHO. One of my brothers even has a paperback copy proclaiming it was "SOON TO BE A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE" about 10+ years before it became a movie. LOL

[CryPixie83]

Originally Posted by paquerette

Sometimes I wonder why it is that Scientology is seen as a valid, albeit quirky religion but Discordianism and Subgenius are seen as jokes.

Hail Eris!

[sapphire_chan]

Originally Posted by DaryLLL

And should we feed our babies honey and expose them to botulism spores just b/c L Ron said he had a past life exp in Rome and that is what the Romans used?

Sure, and be sure to mix it up in earthenware with lead based glazes using water from lead pipes cause the Romans had those too. And why not augment your beauty system by ingesting small amounts of arsenic for that clear complexion and thin figure? :LOL

Incidentally, did anyone pick up on the fact that Hubbard thought that malnourished mothers would have skim milk? Since the 30's/50's research has been done that shows that the mother must be extremely malnourished to affect the content of breastmilk. If a whole family is starving the best way to get the baby fed and the children partially fed is to give as much food as possible to the nursing mother.

[jtsmom]

Coming out of lurkdom here.

I'm not a scientologist, but my ds went to a school based on lrh's works. It was a great school and I loved every minute of it and it worked very well for him. Some of the women running the school were "scientologists" though, from my understanding, scientology is more a way to live your own life than a "religion" , that's what I was told anyway. These women were all very special to me and I never once considered them cult members. The three women I can think of had 2, 3 and 4 kids. All 3 had a broad age range of children, spaced very far apart. And I know all of them breastfed.

[Christine18]

Scientologist replies

I'm glad to hear a Scientologist and those who know Scientologists chime in to this conversation. I would encourage those who have questions about Scientology and it's practices to seek credible information from the source, not the media, the web or hearsay.

I am a Scientologist, I breastfeed and do as much as I can to live a natural and healthy lifestyle for me and my family. In my experience, Scientology promotes eating well. I'm sure Hubbard would encourage breastfeeding if he had the knowledge about it that we do today.

For those of you who say Scientology is a cult, sexist, and about the money, I would beg to differ. I would not call myself a Scientologist if that was the case. The Scientologists I have met are all very ethical, caring, and purposeful human beings and I am proud to classify myself as a Scientologist. Check out www.scientology.org for some info about the religion from the source.

[marycatlumom]

Originally Posted by funshine

The Romans had honey...that's a good reason to give it to babies?!?!? How about this...the Romans had BOOBS.

:LOL
(After I get back up on my chair, I'll have to finish reading the rest of this thread.)

[marycatlumom]

response to GlowingMama

Originally Posted by GlowingMama

Does Breastfeeding and Catholic Motherhood: God's Plan for You and Your Baby give any weaning advice?

I know this is not exactly on topic, but I wanted to respond by saying that although I have not read this book (hadn't heard of it until this post - thanks!), if you know about Sheila Kippley, she is very pro-bfing, AP, cosleeping, natural child spacing (another of her books--"Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing"), and it seems like she would give some kind of advice re: weaning.
As for the scientology discussion here, I'm in agreement that it seems to be more of a cult than a religion. On the topic of breastfeeding, maybe someone should try to get Tom Cruise to weigh in on this one. He seems to give his opinion about a number of other mama issues!

[DaryLLL]

Originally Posted by Christine18

I am a Scientologist...
For those of you who say Scientology is a cult, sexist, and about the money, I would beg to differ. I would not call myself a Scientologist if that was the case. The Scientologists I have met are all very ethical, caring, and purposeful human beings and I am proud to classify myself as a Scientologist. Check out www.scientology.org for some info about the religion from the source.

I see Christine, this is your 1st post! Where did you hear about mdc, that you now come in to defend/promote Scientology?

[DaryLLL]

Originally Posted by marycatlumom

I know this is not exactly on topic, but I wanted to respond by saying that although I have not read this book (hadn't heard of it until this post - thanks!), if you know about Sheila Kippley, she is very pro-bfing, AP, cosleeping, natural child spacing (another of her books--"Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing"), and it seems like she would give some kind of advice re: weaning.

La Leche League, whose founders all happen to be Catholic, strangely enough, have several books on weaning. Mothering Your Nursing Toddler is one. How Weaning Happens is another.

[Christine18]

Originally Posted by DaryLLL

I see Christine, this is your 1st post! Where did you hear about mdc, that you now come in to defend/promote Scientology?

Yes, this is my first post. I get the Mothering magazine and email newsletters and find the information very informative. This last email newsletter had listed this topic. When I went to check it out, I found a lot of mystery and mis-information, so I thought I could shed a little first hand wisdom on the situation since I am a mom and a Scientologist

[chersolly]

Liar.

The Co$ has personnel who surf the web all day, looking to spread the "truth". I know this for a fact.

Also, $cientology is a cult and I was once a young woman who was sucked into it. It's all about the money and when I wanted to leave (after money ran out and I was no longer able to take classes), I was locked in a closet for a day and half and told to steal from my parents.