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post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by HeartsOpenWide
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I got a video on circ from a midwife that has retired. Watching it reminded me why my baby will never get one. Its horrible. And leaving the room so you do not have to witness it or hear your baby cry does not take you off the hook IMO.
Well, I don't know where that happened. When my son was circumsized, they had my hubby and I go in the room with him to hold his hand and comfort him. He was fine though, he cried when he got the anaestetic but hardly cried at all during the actual circumsision. Afterwards (that day and the next few days), he didn't cry from the pain at all or anything like that. He was himself, just like any other day. I don't know why they would have the parents not there with the child.
post #42 of 50
Our ped said they don't allow parents in because if they saw what happened they would freak.
post #43 of 50
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OP I like your sense of humor.

I hope you will rethink the 'if it has to be done' line of thought although I suppose that could be for the .01% of medically necessary procedures.

When I saw the thread name I thought "everyone is jumping on this one!" I am still surprised to see how many responses are here already.

Must shower now .........I'll read the rest later
post #44 of 50
I love this! I can hardly wait to print it off and show my sil who circs for "appearance".
post #45 of 50
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njeb, I'm not much of an intactivist IRL. I do try to send some good links to co-workers who are expecting, but I try hard not to be pushy. I live in North Dakota, where practically everyone circs, and change happens slowly!

I discovered a circ debate board several years ago, and was intriqued. I had no idea this even WAS a debate! At the time my stance was "We didn't do it, but I don't care what everyone else does". I actually went looking for reasons TO circumcise my sons - after all, I wanted what was best for them, right? Naturally I didn't find any, and the more I learned about the procedure itself, the risks involved, and the functions of the foreskin, the more secure I became in the knowledge that we had done the right thing in leaving them intact.

When Dustin Evans died, I fell hard off the fence and firmly into the anti-circ camp. It had NEVER occurred to me that a baby could actually DIE from circ complications! I have been involved in the circ debate on-line off and on ever since.

BTW, I nursed my twins for 9 months. My MIL was convinced that they would starve to death because I'm so flat-chested (I grew into an A-cup while nursing). I showed her - the boys doubled their birthweight (from 8 to 16 pounds) in 4 months.
post #46 of 50
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Originally Posted by k mama
Well, I don't know where that happened. When my son was circumsized, they had my hubby and I go in the room with him to hold his hand and comfort him. He was fine though, he cried when he got the anaestetic but hardly cried at all during the actual circumsision. Afterwards (that day and the next few days), he didn't cry from the pain at all or anything like that. He was himself, just like any other day. I don't know why they would have the parents not there with the child.
Your baby is lucky to have had anesthesia. In this country, most babies don't get any.

Of course, even having your parents with you for the surgery doesn't really make up for losing half of the nerve endings in your penis.

I hope you will educate yourself about circumcision here on this board. Even when circumcision is relatively painless, the damage is lifelong. Read the links in my signature. If you're going to bring your baby into the world by home waterbirth (the best way to go! ) as a gentle introduction to life outside the womb, and for respect for the natural birth process, you owe it to him to leave him natural and intact.
post #47 of 50
nd deadhead, I had to laugh at your post; some of that old mythology dies hard. My mother came around and finally understood the error of her choices with the circ's a few years ago. But she was more immediately contrite about not bf'ing us kids. I guess both her doctor and my grandmother had her convinced she would "starve us to death."
post #48 of 50
nd deadhead,

I just wanted to say that I replied to your post on one of the bboards. I think you finally attracted a pro-circer (a nurse) to respond. I don't think I can actually post WHAT board though (starts with a vowel).

Oh, and I recognized it as sarcasm and really enjoyed the approach you took.

Jessica
post #49 of 50
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I posted this on a circ debate board yesterday morning as well, and received not ONE reply! Funny how no one who wants to do it can answer the questions? I just hope I made some people stop and think.
I posted a similar sort of question once, directed to parents who circumcise - ie, how do they decide what 'type' is right for their sons, and also how they decide which sort of circumcision is best for their daughters. They didn't like it, but I hope I prompted some of them to see that it's just as appalling to do it to boys as it is to do it to girls.
post #50 of 50
I got it and I think its great at pointing out the ridiculousness of the reasons people give to circ. Now I'm hoping someone will bring up the 'to look like dad' argument because I'm going to ask them when they will start shaving their pubic hair and whether they will shave male balding patterns into their little boys heads!
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