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post #81 of 313
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Originally Posted by moneca
This is our second day back on SCD. All is still well. The past couple of weeks Bear had been taking 1 to 1 1/2 hours to fall asleep for her nap. She would just sit in her crib and play. It took her an hour on Tuesday and then yesterday was down to 30 min. Today she fell right to sleep. This is so intriguing. I will figure all of this out and I am sending the good sleeping fairies to Jane's house . Right now I'm just amazingly thankful that my Bear feels so much better .
Where are these fairies already!?

I'm literally in tears everyday with this kid and his naps... he seems to need to tantrum and cry in order to finally allow himself to let go and collapse. This has been common with him. Taking an hour to an hour and a half is the rule.

I should be pm'ing you about that neurotransmitter test shouldn't I. Is there any info online I can read about it?

DH is not thrilled at the amount of $$ I'm spending on this stuff. And I'm about to drop more... another order of enzymes. And I think I'm going to try things like oil of oregano, Biocidin, olive leaf extract, etc. on DS.

I'm glad Bear is feeling better... you both deserve it so much!!
post #82 of 313
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Originally Posted by Jessviola
well, it looks like SCD won't be doable for me right now

there's a page in the knowledge base for vegetarians that basically says unless you can eat at least 1 egg a day and cheese, you won't get enough protein. Since cow's milk and egg whites are on our avoid list we won't be able to do it. although we can do goat's milk products and egg yolks. i don't know how to get egg yolks properly separated from the whiltes though
Jessica!

Where do you get your protein now?

I read a bit of your blog (great job!) and it seems to me if you can do goat and sheep milk and cheese you'll be fine.

You can get a little plastic egg separator thingie at kitchen supply stores that is essentially a fine colander in which the egg white slips thru and the yolk stays.

Are the blood tests you did for IgG reactions?
post #83 of 313
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Originally Posted by crunchy_mama
Maybe I should try anyway...... I think I will ask dh if he thinks we can squeeze enough money out of the budget to buy the book...
Did you check the library?
post #84 of 313
well, we started to do! I already screwed up my gelatin, how I messed that up I don't know. I had dh pick up Welch's 100% grape juice, but it said on the ingredients it was from concentrate, which I thought was bad, but I drank it as the brand was what she specified. My soup is cooking, and I am starving.

Jane, we haven't done any allergy tests,b ecause I didn't want to mess with the ped and they aren't very accurate. I did do an elimination diet and that is what the LC determine, plus my own investigations. I think I will just go slow with it all, I really think it is a gut issue as well. OH, and if there is anyone out there today- as I understand for the intro it is best to cut out the other suplements expect the probiotics, and fish oil. I thought I would use my fish oil from Nordic Naturals for this couple of days because my clo is lemon flavored- from Carlsons.
post #85 of 313
moneca, it is so great to read about your fabulous progress! I hope your daughter continues to improve!
post #86 of 313
subscribing- haven't gotten through the Sept. thread yet, but I'm working on it!
post #87 of 313
well, day one is done! we did ok, although I was starving by the time I got breakfast, I couldn't make the jello until I got up, finally around 11 or so I decided to do egg yolks. I was soooooo on edge yesterday, definitely bad mommy of the year. Lil' man was cracked out, didn't nap until 3:30, he is only getting my bm as of right now. His poops were yellow sometimes and then a darker green sometimes, with a little bit of red blood in there one time. That is so frustrating.

I had planned on only doing the intro for 2 days. Can anyone tell me what comes next? I have ordered the book, but am lost on what I am supposed to add? Or, could someone direct me to where that info is? Evidently I am awful at searching, because I haven't seen it yet.

here's hoping to a good day today! I hope everyone else is doing well also!
post #88 of 313
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Jessica!

Where do you get your protein now?

I read a bit of your blog (great job!) and it seems to me if you can do goat and sheep milk and cheese you'll be fine.

You can get a little plastic egg separator thingie at kitchen supply stores that is essentially a fine colander in which the egg white slips thru and the yolk stays.

Are the blood tests you did for IgG reactions?
sorry i don't have much time to type right now (nak). we did the immuno bloodprint and some other IgE and IgG tests with the ND. i'll have to go check which is which.

would those separators do a good enough job? maybe i'm paranoid but i can't imagine anything *really* getting all the whites away from the yolk. or maybe it doesn't have to be *that* exact?

i'm off sheep cheese for now. can i do goat cheese everyday (oooh that would be nice!!! )?

i get protein from almond butter, walnuts, black beans, pinto beans, goat cheese, lima beans, seaweed. i need to keep thinking though because i'm having trouble concentrating right now
post #89 of 313
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zanelee, how is your dh coping with the changes?
Um, I haven't actually made the changes yet. I decided (for me) I'd better read the book first, and then act on it. I'd have a better grip on what I need to do. I've just given dh the warning that his fast-food, high fat world is about to end! :LOL

Vanilla-
I use the Simply Organic Vanilla Extract. It's ingredients are: water, organic alcohol, organic vanilla bean extractives.(what does that mean?)

Question of EFA's: Do you worry about high mercury in the efa's? Is there a resource to check to make sure that there isn't any in them? That's what has held me back from taking any.

Another question: For an 8 month old that is pretty much just starting some solids, what would you all recommend for probiotics? Just lactob.? Would you use the same for a 3 year old that still nurses and eats solids too? I have a powder by Nature's Way that I started using, but it's got bifidus bacteria in it too...and I read a post somewhere (might be this thread) that Bifidus can over power the other beneficials and inadvertantly help the bad bacteria.


Hmmm...I think that's all the questions I have for now...
post #90 of 313
ok, he had IgE reactions to:
Egg White
Milk
Wheat
Barley
Peanut
Soybean

he had IgG reactions to:
Corn
Egg Whilte
Casein/Cow Milk
Soybean
Wheat

but on the immuno bloodprint, (IgG 115 foods)
barley, corn, egg, cow's milk, and soybeans were on the non-reactive list
post #91 of 313
Jennifer, on the EFA's both the Carlson's CLO I have and the NOrdic Naturals FO have info on the side of the bottle about being clear of mercury and other metals. I have no idea about the probiotics though. I guess I shoudl have followed your lead and waited on starting here I am so lost...

my update;
not only am I starving, but I am going insane and infertile.....I have been a mean yelling mommy and just want to cry. I have no idea what the hell I am supposed to be eating and who knows when the damn book will come in... I would just give up, but I don't know what I would eat at all. So, since I have not a clue I have ate somethings off of the legal list; almond butter, honey, and some cooked pears. Oh, and last night I had a sample of some farmer's cheese, as I had read that DCCC is also called farmer's cheese, well, it was the wrong kind, so I had dairy after 3 weeks of none, so have to start that all over again and lil' man's cheeks are redder today, although his bm wasn't too bad this morning although he was a fireball today, would not nap until 2:30, kept me awake all last night nursing because we were gone yesterday and he won't hardly eat when we are out.

of course he may be constantly nursing because I have half-way gotten my period, although I didn't ovulate this month, my temps have tanked and my mucus was constant the entire month, so no sex...

I am going to have to change something because I am starving, as of this am I was down 10 lbs from 1 mo ago, when I started the whole elimination diet, no dairy etc diet. That is surely why my cycles have totally whacked out again, not to mention I have been sooooo stressed about all of this.

rambling on, don't know why,
post #92 of 313
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Originally Posted by crunchy_mama
well, day one is done! we did ok, although I was starving by the time I got breakfast, I couldn't make the jello until I got up, finally around 11 or so I decided to do egg yolks. I was soooooo on edge yesterday, definitely bad mommy of the year. Lil' man was cracked out, didn't nap until 3:30, he is only getting my bm as of right now. His poops were yellow sometimes and then a darker green sometimes, with a little bit of red blood in there one time. That is so frustrating.

I had planned on only doing the intro for 2 days. Can anyone tell me what comes next? I have ordered the book, but am lost on what I am supposed to add? Or, could someone direct me to where that info is? Evidently I am awful at searching, because I haven't seen it yet.

here's hoping to a good day today! I hope everyone else is doing well also!
s

Do you think you are going thru die off? That can make anyone super cranky. As well as if you are hungry... are you eating enough fats?

According to the book, after the intro is cooked and seeded fruits and veggies. No cabbage family. Watch for any reactions (gas, bloating, the big D). Go slow with the yogurt, start with a small amount at a time. One teaspoon of homemade yogurt contains 5x more beneficial bacteria than the standard probiotic capsule.
http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/co...onspiracy.html
If you eat too much at first, it could cause huge die off.

Pecanbread has a list of more easily tolerated foods in stages, might be helpful:
http://www.pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#beyond
post #93 of 313
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Originally Posted by crunchy_mama
well, we started to do! I already screwed up my gelatin, how I messed that up I don't know. I had dh pick up Welch's 100% grape juice, but it said on the ingredients it was from concentrate, which I thought was bad, but I drank it as the brand was what she specified. My soup is cooking, and I am starving.

Jane, we haven't done any allergy tests,b ecause I didn't want to mess with the ped and they aren't very accurate. I did do an elimination diet and that is what the LC determine, plus my own investigations. I think I will just go slow with it all, I really think it is a gut issue as well. OH, and if there is anyone out there today- as I understand for the intro it is best to cut out the other suplements expect the probiotics, and fish oil. I thought I would use my fish oil from Nordic Naturals for this couple of days because my clo is lemon flavored- from Carlsons.
Yes, I guess Elaine got assurances from Welch's that there is absolutely no sugar added. Personally I hate using non organic juice from grapes though, they are the worst for pesticides. We use the Knudsen Organic Just Juice that has been okayed (all the Just Juice line is SCD legal).
http://www.knudsenjuices.com/product...pid=7&catid=53

Once I knew that our problems were intestinal imbalance, I never put much stock in allergy tests, so we never got them done either.
post #94 of 313
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Originally Posted by Einley
subscribing- haven't gotten through the Sept. thread yet, but I'm working on it!
Genevieve, let us know if you have any questions
post #95 of 313
thanks a million, that really helps! looks like I jumped the gun abit on the almond butter, well, cannot stop screwing up...( I am on stage 1 right?) I am doing a little better now. I don't know if this is die off or what, probably is also hormonal. I think I am getting enough fat, I didn't even skim my soup, as I figured I really needed the fat with bf'ing. I just know that somethings got to change. I haven't got any yogurt yet, or made any, our stupid printer isn't working so it is hard to bring these things to the kitchen, plus I guess I need to order the starter.....
post #96 of 313
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Originally Posted by Jessviola
sorry i don't have much time to type right now (nak). we did the immuno bloodprint and some other IgE and IgG tests with the ND. i'll have to go check which is which.

would those separators do a good enough job? maybe i'm paranoid but i can't imagine anything *really* getting all the whites away from the yolk. or maybe it doesn't have to be *that* exact?

i'm off sheep cheese for now. can i do goat cheese everyday (oooh that would be nice!!! )?

i get protein from almond butter, walnuts, black beans, pinto beans, goat cheese, lima beans, seaweed. i need to keep thinking though because i'm having trouble concentrating right now
Yeah, I can relate to The Mommy Brain Fog. Also The Lack of Sleep Fog *and* The Digestive Disorder Fog too! And I've had ALL three at one point, it's a wonder I could even function :LOL

I don't know re: separators. Goat milk protein is much smaller and more easily digested than cow's so that is probably why it's not as allergenic. I really don't know about every day... all of this is such an inexact science. It depends on how your body handles it and whether it gets to your babe and how they handle it.

Forgot though, SCD doesn't like goat cheese b/c it's not aged for 30 days, which means it still has lactose in it. But goat's milk yogurt would be fantastic for healing and repopulating the gut. You can also drip it to make a sort of goat cheese.
post #97 of 313
oh, it is good to read that the Welch's is ok, I was worried about that. I felt bad about the grape juice as well, but there is no alternatives in my area..
post #98 of 313
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Originally Posted by zanelee
Question of EFA's: Do you worry about high mercury in the efa's? Is there a resource to check to make sure that there isn't any in them? That's what has held me back from taking any.

Another question: For an 8 month old that is pretty much just starting some solids, what would you all recommend for probiotics? Just lactob.? Would you use the same for a 3 year old that still nurses and eats solids too? I have a powder by Nature's Way that I started using, but it's got bifidus bacteria in it too...and I read a post somewhere (might be this thread) that Bifidus can over power the other beneficials and inadvertantly help the bad bacteria.

Hmmm...I think that's all the questions I have for now...
I think it was Mercola's site that explained that mercury is water soluble, not fat soluble, so the oil of fish would not tend to concentrate it to begin with. And then Carlson's and Nordic Naturals have been rigorously tested for not only mercury but other metals and PCBs and they've been clean.

The 8 month old and the 3 year old can be on acidophilus. I made that post in the Power of Probiotics thread based on our experience and also info from SCD: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.i...kb/bifidus.htm

I would concentrate on your supplementation too, probiotics do come thru breastmilk. What about homemade yogurt?
post #99 of 313
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Originally Posted by Jessviola
ok, he had IgE reactions to:
Egg White
Milk
Wheat
Barley
Peanut
Soybean

he had IgG reactions to:
Corn
Egg Whilte
Casein/Cow Milk
Soybean
Wheat

but on the immuno bloodprint, (IgG 115 foods)
barley, corn, egg, cow's milk, and soybeans were on the non-reactive list
Now IgE are the serious ones right?

This stuff makes my head spin
post #100 of 313
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Originally Posted by crunchy_mama
my update;
not only am I starving, but I am going insane and infertile.....I have been a mean yelling mommy and just want to cry. I have no idea what the hell I am supposed to be eating and who knows when the damn book will come in... I would just give up, but I don't know what I would eat at all. So, since I have not a clue I have ate somethings off of the legal list; almond butter, honey, and some cooked pears. Oh, and last night I had a sample of some farmer's cheese, as I had read that DCCC is also called farmer's cheese, well, it was the wrong kind, so I had dairy after 3 weeks of none, so have to start that all over again and lil' man's cheeks are redder today, although his bm wasn't too bad this morning although he was a fireball today, would not nap until 2:30, kept me awake all last night nursing because we were gone yesterday and he won't hardly eat when we are out.

of course he may be constantly nursing because I have half-way gotten my period, although I didn't ovulate this month, my temps have tanked and my mucus was constant the entire month, so no sex...

I am going to have to change something because I am starving, as of this am I was down 10 lbs from 1 mo ago, when I started the whole elimination diet, no dairy etc diet. That is surely why my cycles have totally whacked out again, not to mention I have been sooooo stressed about all of this.

rambling on, don't know why,
Definately sounds like die off to me!!!

I don't want to jinx us, but epsom salts baths are really working for DS. Also activated charcoal is recommended:
http://www.pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

I had supply problems during AF and also huge problems when I started our Elim. Diet as well. Big issue since DS was only 8 mos. old.

Are you eating enough fats?
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