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post #421 of 564
Wow! Finally finished this thread - have learned SO much. Question - why is Emergency an option? Mine does not list sodium ascorbate as its form of vit c. Is it ok because it also has sodium bicarbonate?
post #422 of 564
So my Naturalpathic physician/cousin and I were talking, and he disputed that there is any difference between SA and absorbic acid. "Sounds like a marketing gimic to me" he said. Anyone have any good references I could point him too?
post #423 of 564
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Originally Posted by ejsmama View Post
Wow! Finally finished this thread - have learned SO much. Question - why is Emergency an option? Mine does not list sodium ascorbate as its form of vit c. Is it ok because it also has sodium bicarbonate?
sodium bicarb is baking soda.
post #424 of 564
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Originally Posted by ejsmama View Post
So my Naturalpathic physician/cousin and I were talking, and he disputed that there is any difference between SA and absorbic acid. "Sounds like a marketing gimic to me" he said. Anyone have any good references I could point him too?
SA isn't marketed IMO. Very few people know about it's difference in Ph, and why the body absorbs more. Now ESTER-C *that* is a marketing ploy without research to back it up.

Tell him to look into the spectatular clinical work of Frederick Klenner using SA, he'll learn a lot more than just the difference between SA and AA.
post #425 of 564
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Originally Posted by JaneS View Post
Tell him to look into the spectatular clinical work of Frederick Klenner using SA, he'll learn a lot more than just the difference between SA and AA.
And to make his life easier, his work is online here:

Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C

http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorba...guide_1988.htm

and

http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html
post #426 of 564
I looked through both articles (though not thoroughly) and they mostly seemed to mention absorbic acid and not SA. Am I missing something (quite likely)?
post #427 of 564
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Originally Posted by ejsmama View Post
I looked through both articles (though not thoroughly) and they mostly seemed to mention absorbic acid and not SA. Am I missing something (quite likely)?
Yes!

This was on the very top of the second link:

Quote:
Comment by Robert F. Cathcart, M.D.: This paper repeatedly refers to intravenous ascorbic acid. My personal experience, my talking with Klenner, and with his wife, Annie Klenner, who served as his nurse, would indicate that he means sodium ascorbate. See my article on how to make intravenous C solutions. I am especially indebted to Annie Klenner for her descriptions of how Fred made the intravenous solutions of sodium ascorbate.
But the content of Klenner's work is the point Jane was wanting to get across (I believe).
post #428 of 564
I just got done reading this whole thread! Do I get an award of some kind?

Doesn't the vitamin C researcher Dr. Cathcart and other pro-vitamin C sites recommend plain AA rather than SA for oral intake?

I notice that in the links in support of SA in this thread, it mainly talks about using it for I.V. use (although Klenner himself used oral SA) rather than orally. I wonder why that is, if it is the superior form?

The only time I saw SA recommended above AA was for allergies and adrenal problems, at least in the limited google searches I did.
post #429 of 564
Chicharronita, sorry, I don't know the answer to your questions, and I think they are good ones.

I just wanted to add that after much experimentation, I found a way to get my 2 year old to take SA pretty easily. I mix it in strawberry jam. I have been giving him 1/2 teaspoon of SA at a time, in one teaspoon of strawberry jam (the fruit juice-sweetened kind). He also will take it in a teaspoon of honey, but the jam masks the taste even better. As others have posted, it is sometimes really hard to get a child to take SA. This finally worked for me, and I am happy to report that after two days of about 10 grams of SA, his chronically runny nose has ceased running!
Thanks MT, for giving me the idea and the knowledge to back it up.
post #430 of 564
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Originally Posted by tappahannock View Post
Chicharronita, sorry, I don't know the answer to your questions, and I think they are good ones.
That's okay; thanks for responding. I got a bottle of SA, and took 2 to 3G doses at a time (about 6 to 9G a day) until the bottle was half-empty.

It didn't have the same "punch" as when I take AA, and have gone back to taking AA instead.

I've been thinking about this a lot, especially because I read Kundalini-Mama was taking it before she passed away.
post #431 of 564
[QUOTE=Chicharronita;8486205T


I've been thinking about this a lot, especially because I read Kundalini-Mama was taking it before she passed away. [/QUOTE]

Taking SA?
post #432 of 564
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Originally Posted by leomom View Post
Taking SA?
Yes:

"And funny about the sodium ascorbate and local anesthesia I, of course, was dosing quite heavy on it prior to surgery"

Here's a general comment about taking SA throughout the day.
post #433 of 564
Simply amazing! Now I know what to add to my smoothies!
post #434 of 564
can anyone recommend a good brand of SA....also about the bioflavonoids, is it alright to take Quercitin instead of citrus. I cannot have citrus products.
post #435 of 564
post #436 of 564
If anyone still reads this post.. I have a question! I went to order some sodium ascorbate online and read the description first that said not to use for those on a sodium restricted diet. Although no one in my family is on a sodium restricted diet, I THOUGHT babies were suppose to stay away from excess salts, sugars ect.. won't that mess with a babies kidneys? My DS is 5.5 months and my parents are coming down in 3 weeks (my mom is always sick so I wanted to get some extra vit c). I no longer BF because of medicine I take so I want to protect my little guy- he just started solids this past week. Anyone know about the sodium thing?
post #437 of 564
wow! this thread is LONG! I wish there was an easy way to print this whole thread off to take to bed to nurse baby and read! I'll be back later to read through all of this!
post #438 of 564

Sodium content:

T&D2005 - from what I read (from the links provided in this thread), it is NaCl (table salt) that is harmful to the body, not the pure sodium that is the buffer in Sodium Ascorbate.

This is what I came to understand from reading this thread but would love some confirmation on that...
post #439 of 564

loose bowels

I don't know if I should post this on the tail end here or start a new thread, but I'll try this first. What do you do at the point where your child does get loose bowels from the sodium ascorbate? I cut it back, but now even a small amount seems to still cause a loose bowel. There's no fever anymore, this is just a cold and cough. But I can still here congestion in there, and can feel it in myself too, so I don't want to just ignore it.
Thanks!
post #440 of 564
For whatever reason we (DS & I) cannot tolerate sodium ascorbate as our daily version of vitamin C regardless of how small the dosage is either. I'm sure it's because of gut damage/sensitivity. We do either NOW Acerola powder or Tru-C.

While it seems like the jury is out whether small amounts of natural vitamin C truly work like larger doses of the chemical SA or AA compound, it works better for us. I keep meaning to get the liposomal version from LivOn Labs for emergencies as it bypasses the gut totally.
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