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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
We are seriously looking at buying a brand new home and there are a few optional upgrades we can purchase. One is a hookup for a gas range instead of a standard electric.
Now, I have this vague notion that gas is cheaper than electricity for a stove but how much cheaper? How do i figure out my payback on this? The hookup is $300 plus a gas stove costs about 50% more than a similar electric model.
post #2 of 23
Is the hookup to the house so you can also get a gas water heater or gas furnace? If so, it is probably worth it. I'm not sure though with just the stove running on gas if the additional cost would be worth it. It does depend on how long you plan to be in the house. That said, gas is soooo much better to cook on, IMHO.
post #3 of 23
IMO, this is such a personal opinion call. Even if electric were tons cheaper, I would not give up my gas stove for it. Ok, well, TONS cheaper I would, but you get the idea.

My MIL would say the same in reverse.
post #4 of 23
I agree with Mallori that this is a personal preference thing. I hate hate hate electric ranges. I pay for propane JUST to run our gas stove (our heat and hot water are electric) and to me it's worth it. But people who prefer electric think that is idiotic, I'm sure. :LOL

Pricewise, you might be better going with electric unless you already have a gas hookup in the house for other things.
post #5 of 23
Thread Starter 
We already have a gas furnace and hot water tank. The $300 is to get a gasfitter to run a pipe up to the range area, and later install the stove.

Thinking about it now, with the unfinished basement below the kitchen I could probably get the gas run up at a later date if I thought it was a deal breaker, eh? The inital expenditure to buy this house is already going to tap our resources for a few months until we are settled and have all of our appliances.

I agree that the gas is a ton nicer to cook with. I grew up with a gas stove. However, with the current level of pregnant brain I would probably burn the house down when I forgot about something on the stove.
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by Throkmorton
However, with the current level of pregnant brain I would probably burn the house down when I forgot about something on the stove.
Vs. putting your hand on the hot electric plate that doesn't LOOK hot but just is? I hate how long it takes for those electric patches to heat up and then cool down - the hookup would be worth it for me, but you're right, you can always do it later!
post #7 of 23
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nwaddellr
Vs. putting your hand on the hot electric plate that doesn't LOOK hot but just is?
I haven't quite achieved that level of pregnant brain.
See, electric stoves heat up slower, so I have that much longer to remember what the heck I was doing and run to the kitchen to turn the rice off before it ignites. Heh. I should really learn to use my rice steamer with a timer.
post #8 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallori
Even if electric were tons cheaper, I would not give up my gas stove for it.
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post #9 of 23
It takes FOREVER for water to boil on our electric stove.

And, you can get a greater variation on the amount of heat with a gas range.
post #10 of 23
Gas stove for sure!
post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
Oh, I don't deny that a gas stove is nicer, but is is cheaper?
post #12 of 23
Economy wise I am not sure which one is cheaper, its all about preference.

Our old stove died so when we had to replace it I had the choice of which kind I wanted and we bought electric. At the time I liked the flat burnless look to it, I could use it for extra counter space if I had to. But now wish we would have spent a little more and bought gas. So much better to cook with IMO.
post #13 of 23
You need to find out the price of natural gas or propane in your area (whichever you would be using) and the price per kilowatt hour for electric.

Here is the calculation I did for our situation

The blog entry shows you step-by-step for propane versus electric.

For natural gas, one cubic foot of natural gas equals 1,028 BTUs, so you would look at the price of gas per cubic foot (I assume this is how it's billed, I've never used it) and compare.

I am attempting to do that now and my calculation seems wierd. How are you all billed in natural gas? Does anyone have a bill handy? What's the unit?
post #14 of 23
And on the initial cost of a gas stove:

We bought a 1950-something Wedgewood and have so far spent about $600 between purchasing it and repairing it. Plumbers are coming tomorrow on a different issue, so they are going to give it a quick look too.

We had a repairman update the valves in the oven and broiler so that they are code. The gas company man disabled to the pilots on the cooktop so that if one went out, the other pilot wouldn't ignite the leaking gas and set the house on fire. The point is, it's going to be a safe stove, we just have to light the burners with a match.

And here's the thing: the fire power on the burners is phenomenal and I would say rivals a professional range.

If we were to buy new, we'd spend $1200-1500 to get some of the fire power we want, but wouldn't have anything like we have.
post #15 of 23
I also do some canning, and hope to do some more in the future, which IMO would be a huge PITA with an electric.
post #16 of 23
Throkmorton -- in terms of the payback period, you should consider too that having a gas line will give you the opportunity to have a gas water heater and a dryer. If gas is cheaper, that could save you a lot of money. But one wrinkle is projecting prices of gas and electric into the future. For us, propane is still half the cost of electric even though it has gone up 20% and 45% of our electric is generated by natural gas, so I expect electric to rise as well.
post #17 of 23
Natural gas is billed by the cubic foot - what do your calculations look like?
post #18 of 23
Thread Starter 
Aha! I have finally decided. We are going electric for now. By my calculations, it is far cheaper even if it does fall behind in efficiency. I'll bet you guys are just dying to know hos I figured it out, hey?

Natural gas has gone up 13.5% here this month, on top of a 5.5% increase last spring. This actually makes it considerably more expensive to use than electricity. OUr electricity is mostly produced by hydroelectric so although it will rise when the rest of North America's does, it won't rise as much. We currently pay 6c/KWh for electricity and a $12.50 per GJ of gas.

All things being equal, it would cost us over $75 per year more just to run a gas stove, at least until electricity prices catch up. Thanks Gale Force! The addition was a little mort complicated because I had to convert it all from metric. Heh.
I expect Hydro to increase in the spring, but not as mucha s you think.

A gas dryer would cost us $2 more per year, plus $300 for the hookup and an extra $150 just to buy the darn thing. I already have an energy-efficient washer and dryer, so really that gas dryer would run us $700 more than making do with what we have now.

The gas water heater and furnace will actually cost more to operate as well, until electric catches up. Oh well, they come standard and I don't have to pay extra for hookups. See, the gas line is already run into the house for those, I was talking justto run it the few feet upstairs to the kitchen would cost $300.

Canning really isn't too bad on an electric, but I do all of my canning at my mother's house where she has a whole summer kitchen geared for canning without heating up the rest of the house. There is an electric stove, but once the pressure canners are heated, they stay hot enough that it isn't that difficult.

Plus, our gas company just got bought out by a US multinational, but our hydro is still a provinically-owned crown corp. I kind of dislike the multinationals, so it makes me feel better about using somewhat more sustainable hydro than the gas.
post #19 of 23
Sounds like a fugal choice, given that natural as prices are going up along with gasoline and you have cheap hydro electrcity (we do, too).

I wanted an electric stove (gas is bad if you have someone with asthma in the house) but it would have been expensive to rewire for it (we have an old house) so I keep the gas stove.
post #20 of 23
Wow, that is cheap electric. Ours costs about 12 cents if we use under our baseline and it goes up from there.

Isn't it empowering to calculate all of this on your own and know for sure? I love it.
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