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post #1 of 24
10/21/05 at 9:00pm
Thread Starter 
I'm just finding all the good websites tonight aren't I?

Be warned when you open this one....myths

So we're a cult, huh? :
post #2 of 24
10/21/05 at 9:11pm
MY eyes, my eyes. :
post #3 of 24
10/21/05 at 9:13pm
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Circumcision amounts to the removal of between 20% - 50% of the foreskin depending on the method used. It can therefore in no way be described as an "amputation".
So if I cut off 20% - 50% of my arm, that's not an amputation? Whoever wrote that is tougher than I am.
post #4 of 24
10/21/05 at 9:29pm
oh cool, i always wanted to be part of a cult, not a bad one to be part of either.
post #5 of 24
10/21/05 at 9:48pm
Hey, I'm part of the militant breastfeeding cult and the militant intactivist cult....hope nobody kidnaps me to deprogram me! :LOL
post #6 of 24
10/21/05 at 10:31pm
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Originally Posted by Quirky
Hey, I'm part of the militant breastfeeding cult and the militant intactivist cult....hope nobody kidnaps me to deprogram me! :LOL
Add to that the militant cd'ing cult and I'm in!
post #7 of 24
10/21/05 at 10:32pm
aww My first cult, should i ask my mom to add it to my baby book?

Helen's first cult at the ripe old age of 27....I can see the entry now.lol
post #8 of 24
10/21/05 at 10:38pm
Better this than the cult that cuts off parts of another persons body!
post #9 of 24
10/21/05 at 11:28pm
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If the circumcision was done without effective anesthesia, it may sometimes happen that the infant does not wish to suckle for a brief period afterwards. Most observations of babies have shown that they almost always calm down within 24 hours after the circumcision was performed [5]. There is furthermore no scientific evidence that the mother-child bonding is negatively influenced compared to the case for uncircumcised infants. It should also be noted that if effective anesthesia is provided, the infant is usually back to normal right away.
ummm back to normal? why do it then if it is normal?
post #10 of 24
10/22/05 at 1:34am
It is always distubing to me when someone finds that site.

The site is owned by Mike Cormier of Moncton, New Brunswick. Mr. Cormier is the host of a childrens television show called "Cowboy Who." It seems extremely inappropriate for the host of a Childrens television show to be involved in this issue to the extent that he is. He is a member of several circumcision sexual fetish groups and is quite active in them. He also works with children in several childrens charitable groups. Google his name, you'll also find he has a penchant for limousines and Las Vegas.

I wonder what the parents of his viewers would think of all of this.


Frank
post #11 of 24
10/22/05 at 2:56am
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
It is always distubing to me when someone finds that site.

The site is owned by Mike Cormier of Moncton, New Brunswick. Mr. Cormier is the host of a childrens television show called "Cowboy Who." It seems extremely inappropriate for the host of a Childrens television show to be involved in this issue to the extent that he is. He is a member of several circumcision sexual fetish groups and is quite active in them. He also works with children in several childrens charitable groups. Google his name, you'll also find he has a penchant for limousines and Las Vegas.

I wonder what the parents of his viewers would think of all of this.


Frank
ewww. that is really sick.
post #12 of 24
10/22/05 at 5:43am
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
It is always distubing to me when someone finds that site.

The site is owned by Mike Cormier of Moncton, New Brunswick. Mr. Cormier is the host of a childrens television show called "Cowboy Who." It seems extremely inappropriate for the host of a Childrens television show to be involved in this issue to the extent that he is. He is a member of several circumcision sexual fetish groups and is quite active in them. He also works with children in several childrens charitable groups. Google his name, you'll also find he has a penchant for limousines and Las Vegas.

I wonder what the parents of his viewers would think of all of this.


Frank
Maybe, somehow, they should find out....it wouldn't be the first time that someone famous has turned out to have alternative not so healthy interests and works with children.
post #13 of 24
10/22/05 at 10:41am
hummmmm, I went to school with a Kevin Cormier... in NB, I wonder if it a relation....

and eww! I hate pedophiles, circ-fetish ones are at the bottom of that crap pile, too. I'm going to visit for christmas, do you want I should write a letter or something, do a big expose on NBnow? :LOL big expose, NBnow! that's funny...
post #14 of 24
10/22/05 at 11:11am
Thread Starter 
It is scary that parents may find that site when googling for answers to circumcision. It was pretty high on the list in one of my searches.
post #15 of 24
10/22/05 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by she
hummmmm, I went to school with a Kevin Cormier... in NB, I wonder if it a relation....

and eww! I hate pedophiles, circ-fetish ones are at the bottom of that crap pile, too. I'm going to visit for christmas, do you want I should write a letter or something, do a big expose on NBnow? :LOL big expose, NBnow! that's funny...

Hmmm . . . Since I'm not a local, I have no knowledge of the local landscape. Never seen the TV show, don't know the local newspapers, etc. But, with a circumcision rate of 0.6% I can't believe his views would be popular with the locals, especially with the fetish link. If the show is syndicated, it could be an issue of national interest. TV news expose's and everything! Fron page news!

Since you say you're going to visit for Christmas, I assume you don't live there now. You may want to get some details from your local sources. Is the show still being broadcast? Is it syndicated? That kind of thing and then write a letter to the local newspaper, TV and radio. If it's syndicated, write to the media in those locations too. Contact the local Chief of Police or Sheriff. Maybe even get the local churches involved.

I suspect that website and Mr. Cormier might dissappear and send a strong warning to other circumcsion sexual fetishists and pedophiles and bring the issue to national attention.




Frank
post #16 of 24
10/22/05 at 12:57pm
I couldn't get past the first one...
our mouths are a breeding ground for bacteria and all kinds of "evil" goodies...
which is about right, bacteria is considered evil, but it's good and serves a purpose!
next, ? mouth and tongue removal/cleansing.? oh boy...
what is UP?
post #17 of 24
10/23/05 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
Hmmm . . . Since I'm not a local, I have no knowledge of the local landscape. Never seen the TV show, don't know the local newspapers, etc. But, with a circumcision rate of 0.6% I can't believe his views would be popular with the locals, especially with the fetish link. If the show is syndicated, it could be an issue of national interest. TV news expose's and everything! Fron page news!

Since you say you're going to visit for Christmas, I assume you don't live there now. You may want to get some details from your local sources. Is the show still being broadcast? Is it syndicated? That kind of thing and then write a letter to the local newspaper, TV and radio. If it's syndicated, write to the media in those locations too. Contact the local Chief of Police or Sheriff. Maybe even get the local churches involved.

I suspect that website and Mr. Cormier might dissappear and send a strong warning to other circumcsion sexual fetishists and pedophiles and bring the issue to national attention.




Frank
I've not heard of the show until now, so I'm thinking it's local NB only. The rate is closer 25% there, second only to Ontario, it's Newfoundland where the rate is <1% (I'll forgive you though, very few americans have a grasp of altantic canadian geography :LOL )
But seeing as though I only know what your telling me, would it work out better if I found names and contacts for you to send the info to? Coming from me, it's only internet rumour, KWIM?
post #18 of 24
10/23/05 at 1:52pm
I'll send it but I'm in Georgia so I don't know how much credibility I would have either. I'll give it a shot though.



Frank
post #19 of 24
10/23/05 at 6:23pm
ok, was doing a little research on my own and found this out
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"Cowboy Who?" aired on CHRO and the Mid Canada and Baton television networks from 1990 to 1995. It won a 1992 CANPRO award for best children's series.
but the production company, StrangeMedia, has this to say about it
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Cowboy Who?
bizarre low budget children's television for twisted adults
apparently it will be available soon on DVD. Mike Cormier was both writer and performer partnered with a Jeff Green who owns the production company.

There is a website for the show, it's just a blog, and it appears to be a marionette show a la Thunderbirds. It is written by 'Smilin Tom' who seems to be one of Jeff Green's characters.

As it appears not to be a current show, or written for children intentionally, I'm not sure how to best proceed.
post #20 of 24
10/24/05 at 1:35am
If the circumcision was done without effective anesthesia, it may sometimes happen that the infant does not wish to suckle for a brief period afterwards. Most observations of babies have shown that they almost always calm down within 24 hours after the circumcision was performed [5].



oh, well then, as long as they calm down within 24 hours. Heck, a newborn not breastfeeding for 24 hours, no problem.

Jen
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