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I'm very discouraged right now  

post #1 of 10
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We just had our fourth baby, a beautiful and healthy girl named Hillary, three weeks ago (Oct. 1st). I knew during the pregnancy DH was stressed about having #4, even though we agreed about it, he was not against it or anything. After Hillary's difficult birth by c/s, I was thrilled to pieces to lie in bed and rest and just look at her, she's such a miracle and a joy. Also, I'm thrilled to be feeling as good as I am, and right from the start, although I have been religious about getting proper rest, I have been able to at least help out with cooking and stuff. So that it does not all fall on DH's shoulders.

Our life is usually very busy with homeschooling (mostly that means playing piano), swim team every afternoon, and play dates. But for these two months we've cut back so I can rest totally, and DH just takes them to swim team every afternoon (when his schedule permits.) So right now, it's more stressful for DH because he's getting less done at work (which I asked him to EXPECT in October and even November), and he has been such a jerk lately.

He keeps making comments like "there are just too many kids," "Four is too many," "Having four kids sucks," and so on. And he says this when we're with the kids---damn him! It's not right!! I'm already stressed about returning to homeschooling and piano with four kids, but I'm trying to stay 100% positive about it because I believe in it, and having him constantly undermining me by making comments like "If it were up to me, I'd just send 'em all to school and not have to see them all day,"...it is SO NOT HELPFUL. He found the first week so difficult, when I was in bed sleeping and he had the three kids all day---welcome to my reality, dude! It's HARD, but it's also cool and fun and keeps me thin LOL! But since then he has been so undermining of my efforts by making the school comments and the too-many-kids comments. And I feel like sh*t, wondering why I even bother! I'm holding Hillary and looking at her, thinking, "Am I the only parent who loves you?" I just went through hell to grow and birth this baby, and he just denigrates the whole thing, all the kids and all the work I've done with them.

So I'm discouraged and no, it is not postpartum depression. I'm thrilled with our beautiful kids and excited about getting healed up and returning to active life, swim team and outings and stuff. But god, it's so hard to stay positive with that idiot around. I feel more and more distant from him, because I have to distance myself or I'll go crazy. When I've tried talking with him it has not helped.

Have other people had this postpartum issue? Has it gotten better? I feel so sad that DH is not happy about this baby. I know we both need a vacation, but still....can't you be exhausted and happy about the new baby at the same time? Even though we're both exhausted, couldn't he be supportive of me and the path we're on? Damn this is hard.
post #2 of 10
Well we just added baby #2 and my DH hasn't made comments about having too many kids. But he has been feeling the stress and expressing it other ways. He started smoking again (about a week before the baby was born). We get into arguments fairly easily right now as well, he just went back to work and sometimes I'm still needing a bit of help from him with things at home and he gives me grief. He has been pretty grumpy and I was actually happy when he returned to work .... even 2 yr old DS calmed down a bit once DH went back to work.
post #3 of 10
I really worry about this since I have 3 kids from a previous relationship and DH and I are having a new baby together. He is younger than me and this is his first and I just worry that he is going to freak out at having 4 kids suddenly. My other kids are pretty young (5,6 and 8) and our baby is due any day. We've talked about it a lot and he assures me that it won't be too hard for him and that he can handle it but I have my doubts I really don't have any suggestions for you other than to just hang in there, eventually he will come around and realize that 4 kids are just right for you two and he will be happy with it. It's just harder for some men to adjust.
post #4 of 10
I'm sorry you are feeling this way, Mama...

I also wonder why my hubby can't be tired but still generally in a good mood instead of pissy. I mean, we are so blessed, is it really worth pulling it all down with crappy comments like a teenager? Can't we just pass out at night with a big grin on our faces? Sometimes?

Still, I understand he, as your husband, is overwhelmed.

Your hubby should stop with the "4 is too many" thing. That is really immature and justs sets up a domino effect for all of you.

Sounds to me like he needs help finding a constructive way to get rest and space from it all without bitching at everyone.

I'm sure you have done a great job with your family and lifestyle and you deserve to be overjoyed right now whenever possible.
post #5 of 10
freestyler....hugs to you! we had our fourth nine months ago (dh and I have HALF our internal reproductive organs AND we were using birth control!!!! SURPRISE). we NEVER planned four and we were taken aback but once the babe was on its way we resigned ourselves, embraced the reality, and then grew to really really love him and he is the COOLEST kid. right away hormones overtake logic and people WILL say stupid things and not be supportive (after all we are DOUBLING the american norm or ideal or whatever, right?) it is a lot to handle. three was hard, four is rough. some days we don't get any homeschooling done (unless you count three drawings of a black widow and blowing for 30 minutes on a trumpet..."blowing" being the important word). people used to look at me and feel a little sorry for me in target when one child was crying and one was running away and i spilled my coffee or whatnot when i had three childre...now with four they loook at the kids and feel sorry for them!!! it makes me sad and mad a little and sometimes I just take five minutes and hide and if I find ds1 is distracted looking out for baby and baby has eaten candy corn off the kitchen floor, i just sigh and move the candy and move on....i lower my own standards and take support wherever i can. dh is supportive but he works from 7am-11pm and weekends too most of the time...he HAS to so I can be here with them. I would keep using the board to vent (move this though somewhere where not just PPD responders will see it but all of thos ewith bigger families --- maybe not those with 7 or 8 because they just make me feel like a whiner, like i need to suck it up not on purpose, of course; they seem to make it look easy)

of course i would have a talk with dh and tell him...think it, email it if you have to, send me a letter and say it, talk to your buddies...but DO NOT continue to speak those words in our home around our children : the vibes are wrong and it is not fair to you to have another thing to worry about. you're KEEPING the baby and he needs to SUCK it UP that sounds mean, huh? maybe if you have a complaint for the next few months you should bring it elsewhere too (like here) so as not to open up the discussion. vent elsewhere so he doesn't start his complaints again. it is hard and you should not have to be responsible for all the schooling and house-stuff and loving. he needs to do some of it too. it's okay, too, to have stuff everywhere and messes you didn't have before and ask the kids to change a diaper or take out the trash or put away the groceries. or take a bath and let them bang on the piano and pour their own cheerios (mostly on the floor) and wear pjs the whole day.....the things we never do with one are OKAY woth four

gosh that was LONG and WEIRD. i hope it helps a little
post #6 of 10

Hugs mama! That is a lot to go through right after giving birth. It sounds like you are doing very well, but maybe you husband has some depression issues! Maybe there is something under the surface that is bothering him and he expresses it by making those awful comments! Maybe counseling could help, or choking him (J/K) Men seem to deal with problems differently (especially $ problems). Four kids has got to require a lot of attention and love! I really hope that he is just feeling moody and comes around soon!!
post #7 of 10
BAD HUBBY!!!

i just have to say though, you make up for him by being so positive about all of it--especially his immaturity :P Keep up the good work mama, and when the kids aren't listening, tell him you birthed ONLY four, meaning you shouldn't have to raise him too
post #8 of 10
Oh mama, I really have no idea what your going through but wanted to send some warm wishes and hugs your way

I hope that your dh realizes what impact it could have on his kids hearing him say those things,. That is just plain mean of him and awful. Comming from me, I heard things like that when I grew up and it didnt help with my self esteem,.

Im very proud of you and they way you are handling this situation. Good luck and congrats on baby hillary.

Angie
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
I love your help, sisters! And I love all your advice. Thank you! Glad to know I'm not crazy for finding this all VERY DIFFICULT. Thanks so much. DH has been getting more sleep after I nagged him about it (we both parent like crap when we're tired). That has helped a little. This morning he went out running with his running club and I think getting out will help him cope too.

ScatteredTribe, thanks for your input! It's cool to hear from another homeschooler too! I'm gonna move my behind over to the homeschooling forum and check out how other mammas deal with homeschooling four, and with a new baby and stuff. But anyway, I just felt the need to vent here first, where you all are not strangers, and get virtual hugs from people I already "know."

Thank you for your hugs and support, mammas. Hugs and hugs right back to you! I love hearing about all the babies being born and feeling all the excitement in the air right now as our due date club expands its numbers!
post #10 of 10
Just keep in mind it is quite possible for men to get depressed as well. It's not postpartum depression in the sense that it is brought on by hormones as is the case with us women, but it happens nontheless. Think for a minute about how much his stress level has increased--the woman he loved had a difficult surgical birth, he's got more kids than he expected to, and he has to support them all. With men, depression is more likely to express itself as anger, which is exactly what it sounds like is happening here. NOT that this excuses him saying verbally abusive things in front of the children.

It's also unfortunately often true that your stress and his will feed off each other's. Be as supportive of him as you can, but if you feel the stress getting to you too much, don't be afraid to distance yourself until you calm down. Give him as much attention as you can when you can (older children aren't the only ones who get jealous when there's a new addition), but take time for yourself as well.
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