NAK...
So I took DD#2 for her 2 mo check up (really only because I wanted to know how much she'd grown since 2 weeks) and I told the Dr. I wan't going to be immunizing her today. I said that I am still doing my research and would decide what (if any) shots she'd get at a later time. Then I pulled out Stephanie Cave's book and asked if she'd read it.
Her:'" Oh no, that's all propaganda"
Me: " It actually makes a lot of sense...are you saying you've never read it?, how do you know?
Her: "Well do me a favor, if you are going to do your research, make sure it's actuall scientific research, not a book that's junk..."
Me:"you know this is written by a pediatrician..."
Her: OK, I want to go over the vaccines with you...
Then she proceded to tell me that she could care less about the Hep B, but that everything else was so important because her brother had meningitis and has diasabilities because of it, and she had pertussis a while back and it was horrible. ( ah!But they are both alive to tell the story..)And I better not take DD anywhere because she has "no immune system" after the age of 2 mo(but I'm going to bombard it with 6 vaccines at once?) and that I absolutley cannot travel...
Then I said I was really leery about the ingredients in vaccines and the way in which they are manufactured using animal cells, but especially the mercury, and get this, she holds up her fingers in a pinch and says "yeah, but it's just a little bit of mercury, a can of tuna fish has more"
I said "well first of all I'm not feeding my 12lb. 2 mo old a can of tuna, but even if she did ingest tuna(mercury and all) it goes through the digestive system and liver, leaving little mercury to the bloodstream, but when you inject it right into a baby it goes straight to the bloodstream crossing the blood/brain barrier, and one shot may have less than a can of tuna, but she would be receiving four shots today. Not to mention tuna isn't even considered safe anymore and it's consumption should be limited."
Then when the appointment was over I asked her for all of the leafletts that come withthe vaccine and she said "sure". She comes back in the room with a one page handout from the Children's hospital of Philadelphia and the first heading says "Decisions about vaccine safety must be based on scientific studies rather than the conflicting information found on the internet, in magazines, and in books, but few parents have the background in microbiology, immunology, epidemology and statisitics to separate good scientific studies from poor studies...." (Ok, this is not the literature I asked for...) So I asked her again, she said if they weren't "thrown away" she'd try to get them. Later sending in the nurse with them.
She also had me sign a waiver saying I would not vaccinate my child today (which was fine), but whe I asked her should I decide to vaccinate in the future and wanted to request the vaccines be separated or use the ones without mercury she said that was not the way they ordered them, and that they could not special order vaccines for me even at my expense (yeah right), but another pediatirtian in the area may (so, what are you hinting at lady?)
Shouldn't Dr.s be better educated?
So I took DD#2 for her 2 mo check up (really only because I wanted to know how much she'd grown since 2 weeks) and I told the Dr. I wan't going to be immunizing her today. I said that I am still doing my research and would decide what (if any) shots she'd get at a later time. Then I pulled out Stephanie Cave's book and asked if she'd read it.
Her:'" Oh no, that's all propaganda"
Me: " It actually makes a lot of sense...are you saying you've never read it?, how do you know?
Her: "Well do me a favor, if you are going to do your research, make sure it's actuall scientific research, not a book that's junk..."
Me:"you know this is written by a pediatrician..."
Her: OK, I want to go over the vaccines with you...
Then she proceded to tell me that she could care less about the Hep B, but that everything else was so important because her brother had meningitis and has diasabilities because of it, and she had pertussis a while back and it was horrible. ( ah!But they are both alive to tell the story..)And I better not take DD anywhere because she has "no immune system" after the age of 2 mo(but I'm going to bombard it with 6 vaccines at once?) and that I absolutley cannot travel...
Then I said I was really leery about the ingredients in vaccines and the way in which they are manufactured using animal cells, but especially the mercury, and get this, she holds up her fingers in a pinch and says "yeah, but it's just a little bit of mercury, a can of tuna fish has more"
I said "well first of all I'm not feeding my 12lb. 2 mo old a can of tuna, but even if she did ingest tuna(mercury and all) it goes through the digestive system and liver, leaving little mercury to the bloodstream, but when you inject it right into a baby it goes straight to the bloodstream crossing the blood/brain barrier, and one shot may have less than a can of tuna, but she would be receiving four shots today. Not to mention tuna isn't even considered safe anymore and it's consumption should be limited."
Then when the appointment was over I asked her for all of the leafletts that come withthe vaccine and she said "sure". She comes back in the room with a one page handout from the Children's hospital of Philadelphia and the first heading says "Decisions about vaccine safety must be based on scientific studies rather than the conflicting information found on the internet, in magazines, and in books, but few parents have the background in microbiology, immunology, epidemology and statisitics to separate good scientific studies from poor studies...." (Ok, this is not the literature I asked for...) So I asked her again, she said if they weren't "thrown away" she'd try to get them. Later sending in the nurse with them.
She also had me sign a waiver saying I would not vaccinate my child today (which was fine), but whe I asked her should I decide to vaccinate in the future and wanted to request the vaccines be separated or use the ones without mercury she said that was not the way they ordered them, and that they could not special order vaccines for me even at my expense (yeah right), but another pediatirtian in the area may (so, what are you hinting at lady?)
Shouldn't Dr.s be better educated?
Way to make your ped think! (I don't mean think as in reconsider her stance on vaccines, but think as in have a conversation with an informed, intelligent patient/mom of patient).
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You did a great job mama! 
