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post #21 of 34
wow, Aquaduct. RELAX.

Whether or not the vaccines work is irrelevant to someone who believes they do. I am only saying that from her perspective, I'm sure she feels a vax would have protected her brother.

Again, if you re-read my post, you'll see that I totally agree with you all that she needs to find a ped who shares her philosophy.

I just think everyone has a right to an opinion and her personal experience probably influences her, just the way our experiences influence us.

I am still in the reading stages on vaccinations. I am planning to basically start with "no vax" and then as I read, if there is something I feel strongly the risks of not doing it outweigh the risks of doing it, I will add. So basically rather than take away vaxes, I will add vaxes *if* I come across one I feel personally is the best for our family. I think the risk weighing is different for every person.

I guess I just don't know where the hostility comes from. You run into professionals all the time who do or do not share your philosophy. Just switch peds. I know plenty of people who read the research and still decided to vax, so its not just one right answer for everyone.

The best experience I had recently was talking with a woman who runs an organization in town fighting for more information on vax, sharing info with parents, etc. She had SO much information for me, but yet did not tell me what she did with her own kids. She said it was a personal choice, and she wants everyone to make that themselves. She was SO incredibly neutral, it was unbelievable.

I believe this is the most effective and respectful way to enter any dialogue. Sharing information, making wise choices, and changing a ped or two if things like this crop up.

Just my thoughts. Best of luck to you!
XOXOXO
Beth
post #22 of 34
wow caligirl ! Awesome. I'm so proud of you.

The ONLY thing I'd do differently...I wouldn't sign ANYTHING. Period. But that's cuz I've had signed things come back later to bite me in the backside.
post #23 of 34
With regards to the Doc getting pertussis..

Until the new tdap was approved (which it now is) pertussis wasn't available for adults only kids. I'm sure they'll start pushing it now that it is available. I know the flu clinic at my work has the tdap available to anyone who wants it (free).

My dd's ped has had pertussis 4 times in the last year. It is an epidemic here. With the number of cases she sees I understand why she keeps getting it. I would actually wonder if she really ever gets over it.

But, if she can't build immunity after getting pertussis how would the shot help? I know some of it depends on how she takes care of herself. No one seems to have an explanation for this.
post #24 of 34
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Originally Posted by Leav97
My dd's ped has had pertussis 4 times in the last year.
She contracted pertussis four times over the last 12 months!
post #25 of 34

Sounds familiar!! Do you go to KIds First?

I live in Glenside PA are you nearby?
my son's 2 month apt sounded alot like that. Although I didn't evn get into it with her becasue I feel they are all so misinformed it is pointless!! I signed that paper but then didn't give it back becasue I found the wording very offensive! Ugh!
post #26 of 34
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mrsfatty
Just a sidenote:
She asked you to sign a waiver saying you weren't vaccinating today...does that mean you signed saying you were liable?

If so, you should come armed with a sheet that says SHE'LL be professionally and personally liable if something goes wrong when/if you vaccinate.

You should never have to sign a form at the doctors office--you only have to abide by your state laws...

Great story--good for you for sticking to your guns!
It was more like a form saying the recommended vacines for that visit and that I declined them that day....
post #27 of 34
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Deir
I live in Glenside PA are you nearby?
my son's 2 month apt sounded alot like that. Although I didn't evn get into it with her becasue I feel they are all so misinformed it is pointless!! I signed that paper but then didn't give it back becasue I found the wording very offensive! Ugh!
Nope we are in Virginia...
Guess there is just a lot of the same thing going on out there...
post #28 of 34
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Originally Posted by alegna


Remember how much of their education is paid for by vax and drug companies.

-Angela

I will call BS on this one. If drug companies paid for Doc's education, then why do so many of them carry over 200K in medical school debt?
post #29 of 34
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Originally Posted by boobybunny
I will call BS on this one. If drug companies paid for Doc's education, then why do so many of them carry over 200K in medical school debt?
In Canada, what we pay for education is not what it actually costs, we pay much less than that. The Canadian Government (i.e. our taxes) covers the rest. Is it possible that in the U.S., the cost of education is much higher than what a student pays and that the extra is funded by pharmaceutical companies?

Also, I was thinking that perhaps pharmaceutical companies might sponsor lectures, send in speakers, pay for medical equipment needed for education, etc?

I am not saying any of this is true, I am just wondering if any of these things could be a possibility?
post #30 of 34
I do not count on my Dr. to be educated about vaccines. therefore I do not listen to anything they have to say on the matter
post #31 of 34
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Originally Posted by Leav97
My dd's ped has had pertussis 4 times in the last year. It is an epidemic here. With the number of cases she sees I understand why she keeps getting it.
Your ped is a moron. She isn't keeping on getting it.

What happens in pertussis is that during the initial infection the cilia (hairs) in the bronchials are cut off by the toxin being excreted from the bacteria.

In healthy people these take 6 - 9 months to grow back to full length.

My guess is that your ped got it, had no idea how to treat it, so became totally hairless. And possibly, her immune system hasn't got rid of the bacteria properly, because she subscribed to her own pharmaceutical rubbish. Which will also mean that her body is only growing cilia back very very slowly.

So this means that everytime she gets a cold, she will get the whooping cough barking cough, becuase the mucus pools, just as it did in whooping cough, which causes the type of cough, becuase THAT is what it takes to get the muck up.

That she doesn't KNOW that, shows me that she's a paed I would either not take my child to, or I would try to educate her. But with the latter option, I'd still be wondering what else she didn't know which could likewise put my child at risk if I had to seek an opinion (let alone a treatment) from her.
post #32 of 34
haha..well..when I read that I was thinking to myself about the 4 times a year thing...what kind of diet is she on for pete's sake? Doesn't she take care of herself? Even in pro vax literature they don't exaggerate how many times one can get pertussis and I'd think that would be the one thing they'd use to their benefit when pushing vaxes. If she got it that many times, I'd be afraid of her working around children getting it that often.

That is if it was pertussis..hehe..but that is what was going on in my mind.
post #33 of 34
Doesn't pertussis last for 3-4 months and can take a full year to recover from? how is it possible to get it four times in a year? My money is that she was just never really recovering and hasn't got a clue about what pertussis is or how to treat it. or she never really had it.
post #34 of 34
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Originally Posted by lilyka
Doesn't pertussis last for 3-4 months and can take a full year to recover from? how is it possible to get it four times in a year? My money is that she was just never really recovering and hasn't got a clue about what pertussis is or how to treat it. or she never really had it.

Yeah that.
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