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post #161 of 175
Thread Starter 

Update

Gabe is doing ok at the new daycare. His separation anxiety is pretty bad right now (if I'm in his presence, he won't let go of me). We also have a conference at Montessori tonight. Hopefully there won't be more bad news...

E-mail from R. Selfridge at the MI House: :
"15 months old, come on lady! I'll see what I can find out."

I really don't see why age matters. He is barely over 1 year old, which is the min recommended by the AAP. I'd only have to drive an hour or so south to be protected from this crap.
post #162 of 175
Quote:
Originally Posted by smirlynwittles

E-mail from R. Selfridge at the MI House: :
"15 months old, come on lady! I'll see what I can find out."

How rude!
post #163 of 175
From the CDC Website:
Quote:
Are special precautions needed for handling breast milk?No special precautions exist for handling expressed human milk, nor does the milk require special labeling. It is not considered a biohazard. The Universal Precautions to prevent the transmission of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), Hepatitis B virus, and other bloodborne pathogens do not apply to human milk.
This is in reference to the woman who is not 'allowed' to give her babe her own milk in the church nursery b/c of possible 'contamination' to the other babies.
post #164 of 175
Quote:
Originally Posted by smirlynwittles
E-mail from R. Selfridge at the MI House: :
"15 months old, come on lady! I'll see what I can find out."
What a disgrace of proper etiquette! Doesn't really surprise me though. I think most ppl in power lack just about everything. Their only real accomplishment is having been able to lie and cheat their way to the top to prey on the honest ppl. (Of course that is my personal opinion and if no one else agrees that is just fine with me.)
post #165 of 175
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeosMama
From the CDC Website:


This is in reference to the woman who is not 'allowed' to give her babe her own milk in the church nursery b/c of possible 'contamination' to the other babies.
Anyone want to send that to that STUPID church? I'll do it!
post #166 of 175
15 months isn't even old...not that it matters. Really your child's age shouldn't even be asked. It just blows my mind. I really cannot believe you are dealing with this at all. I realize now how fortunate I am in the community I live in. I see lots of other nursing mama's...
glad you son is in a new environment. Hope his adjustment goes smoothly. This is a common age for another spurt of sep. anxiety.

~MB
post #167 of 175
I did include the info from CDC and OSHA when I emailed the church. It didn't matter. They feel the nursing room, and summoning the Mom is equal to giving bottles of formula. Seperate but equal anyone?

There is another thread with this issue. I only brought it up to show how bad Michigan is. I am always being asked to do things like the rest of the moms, formula is good enough for all but the vigilent here.
post #168 of 175
Thread Starter 

More professional response from MI House

Another e-mail from the MI government. Based on this response, we could get kicked out of any restaurant, mall, etc for breastfeeding.

-----Original Message-----
From: District 26 <Dist026@house.mi.gov>
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:41:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Breastfeeding Discrimination at In-Home Daycare in Michigan


Dear Ms. xxxxx,

Thank you for your recent email.

In regards to any discrimination, you can contact the Civil Rights
Department. The Detroit office phone number is 313-456-3700.

An in-home daycare is a business and they are not a Governmental unit
and do not belong to a Union. They have the right to choose their
clients and the right to set whichever rules they feel appropriate to
operate the daycare.

Thank you again for writing. Please feel free to contact our office
regarding any State legislative issue at 866.585.2471.

Sincerely,

Christine Riley
Legislative Assistant to
Rep. Marie Donigan
District 26
post #169 of 175
Quote:
Originally Posted by smirlynwittles
Another e-mail from the MI government. Based on this response, we could get kicked out of any restaurant, mall, etc for breastfeeding.

-----Original Message-----
From: District 26 <Dist026@house.mi.gov>
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:41:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Breastfeeding Discrimination at In-Home Daycare in Michigan


Dear Ms. xxxxx,

Thank you for your recent email.

In regards to any discrimination, you can contact the Civil Rights
Department. The Detroit office phone number is 313-456-3700.

An in-home daycare is a business and they are not a Governmental unit
and do not belong to a Union. They have the right to choose their
clients and the right to set whichever rules they feel appropriate to
operate the daycare.

Thank you again for writing. Please feel free to contact our office
regarding any State legislative issue at 866.585.2471.

Sincerely,

Christine Riley
Legislative Assistant to
Rep. Marie Donigan
District 26
That sickens me.
post #170 of 175
Let's start calling the numbers she provided.

This is the attitude in Mich, no rights to protect.
post #171 of 175
nevermind-I see you pulled him out of there

sorry you had to go thru all this!

Ann
post #172 of 175
Thread Starter 
Here is the other thread with the pages, Sue!

Gabe started Montessori yesterday and things went well. He actually didn't feel like nursing at pick up since he was more interested in showing me around.

Later...
post #173 of 175
Quote:
Originally Posted by MovingMomma
There is a federal law! According to the LLL website:

I don't think this extends to protection if an institution receives federal money, however.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthr
What federal law? There is no federal law, only SOME state laws.
Ruth


There is a federal law! According to the LLL website:
Quote:
In 1999, a federal law was enacted that ensures a woman's right to breastfeed her child anywhere on federal property that she has a right to be with her child.


I don't think this extends to protection if an institution receives federal money, however.

Let me clarify.
Which means that if a woman is physically ON Federal Property, in a Federal courthouse, at the National Zoo, the Smithsonian, the Capitol, the White House... she can breastfeed.
What I should have been clear about is that I meant that there is no federal legislation that protects a mother wherever she may be in whatever state she is in. What there is, is a hogde podge of laws, in basically 40 states. Some states only clarify that breastfeeding does not constitute indecent exposure you can't be arrested... Some also clarify the right to breastfeed anywhere a woman has the right to be. I actually talked to a state representative today who explained that the language "where she has a right to be" is designed to cover both public and semi-public places. For instance a mall is privately owned property but unless the mall, or restaurant, business etc. posts a sign that says "No Shoes, No Shirts, No Breastfeeding" then with the "where she has a right to be" language protects us. And while business's have extensive right to refuse service rights, what business in it's right mind would post that they refuse to serve breastfeeding mothers.

Ruth
post #174 of 175
Quote:
Originally Posted by smirlynwittles

I also wish I didn't give her my daughter's hand-me-downs for her grandchild.

I should learn not to be so nice...

It just sucks. : I shouldn't have to do that.
Grr, I am mad for you too!!

But, I SO agree with the next post by Kira's mom:

Quote:
smyrlinwittles- Don't feel bad about being nice. It will come back to you ten-fold.Everytime she sees her grandchild in one of those outfits she can regret the mistakes she made.Poor choices, unprofessional conduct...the list goes on.
My family lives really close to your DCP. If you are planning a nurse in when we're back visiting with the new baby in June, I'm in! Wow, I didn't know MI was so in the dark ages like I"m seeing in these comments. : No state BF'ing law !!

-Kelly
post #175 of 175
Grr, I am still so mad about this! And we are planning to move back in 1 1/2 or 2 years. That's it- we're only moving to Ann Arbor. (seriously) I can't imagine anyone saying anything about NIP there. I am mad about that church too. Such fear over breast milk. God forbid. (where's the roll eyes smilie?)

-Kelly
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