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Originally Posted by CallMeMommy
I do have a question for you: Scarlet fever was a very dangerous and common childhood illness "back in the day". It's rarely heard of now, yet there was no vaccine ever created for it. So why did that illness just disappear, yet all of the other childhood illnesses (mumps, measles, chickenpox, etc.) have their decline credited to the vaccine?

Just wanted to comment that scarlet fever found our household back in september.
post #62 of 262

my older kids

the vaxed ones,lol,had scarlett fever too back in the 90's. They were like 3 and 5. The pediatrician they saw wasn't even sure what he was looking at.He had to call in another ped at the office to look at them. I still feel to this day they were both 'guessing' without really knowing.
Both recovered just fine. I probably woudn't have even taken them in to be seen except I couldn't figure out what the rash was. All they had prior to that was a cold and low grade fever.

julie
post #63 of 262
Four pages and over 60 posts....hmmm..think he's coming back?
post #64 of 262
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Originally Posted by marcdoc
I do notice a lot of people still focussing on mercury; isn't it time to get past that? Except for flu vaccine (optional in all cases), no vaccines have had anything but trace amounts of mercury in about 5 years. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind on the virtues or evils of mercury, but aren't there other more important health issues for your kids at this point?
It was not in the past for my son born in 2003. My ped. still was using older lots of vaxs from the state which had not expired. Since there was no recall of thimerosal. I had every intention of vaxing my son on a delayed basis until I started reading more in depth about thimerosal. For ex. the serious flaws in the Danish epidemiological study... including outpatients in the second group when they were not in the first. Where is the real science here? It seems to crumble when one looks closely at it.

So I looked even more closely at all vaccines. I learned of the other toxic vaccine ingredients... the lack of double blind studies... the rise in autoimmune diseases... the benign nature of many childhood illnesses, as well as their ability to confer lifelong immunity.

And the horrible stat reported by the AAP that 1 in 6 children has a neurodevelopmental disorder. That one gives me chills. What are we doing to our poor children??

Trace amounts of mercury?

Do you know what you are shrugging off here? The 25 mcg. of mercury in the current Fluzone vaccine is 3x the EPA determined safe level of mercury for an adult. Which means for a 6 month old infant, depending on it's weight, it will be around 30 times the EPA safe level. Why is that legal and ethical? How on earth can you assure me, without adequate toxological studies, that this is safe?

The generation of children starting in the '90's with the increased amount of thimerosal containing vaccines got up to 250 times or more, the EPA safe level of mercury in their shots.

When does the blood brain barrier close? Does it at all make sense you to be injecting known neurotoxins (if not mercury, formaldehyde then) with no known levels of safety directly into a baby's bloodstream (a most unnatural way of exposure to these diseases)?

Why are there no studies done on unvaxed children? Oh yeah. Who would fund them. The vaccine makers are not interested in proving safety. As a mother, that is my primary concern.

I once heard a poignant statement by I forgot who... about Peds being blind to the many hazards of mercury, and it being a cause of autism specifically.

They said we must forgive the Peds because they are generally very nice people who give their entire lives to caring for children... and the thought that they have instead irreversibly damaged an entire generation is quite beyond their capacity to conceive.

www.generationrescue.org

www.safeminds.org
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post #66 of 262
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Originally Posted by suseyblue
ummm, it's not gone- we (and another family at dh's work) all got it last winter. there's no hysteria about it, because there's no vax. let them develop one & we'll here about its devastating effects soon enough.
Scarlet Fever is not gone but still not as widespread as it once was; a more common form is scarletina, a milder form, is still around.
post #67 of 262
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Originally Posted by the_dalai_mama
Okay, I'm mostly a lurker here, but I couldn't let this one pass me by without a sisterly
(one of the bumper stickers on my NON-SUV used car says "My other car is a broom".)
Thank you for noticing!
post #68 of 262
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Originally Posted by CallMeMommy
I do have a question for you: Scarlet fever was a very dangerous and common childhood illness "back in the day". It's rarely heard of now, yet there was no vaccine ever created for it. So why did that illness just disappear, yet all of the other childhood illnesses (mumps, measles, chickenpox, etc.) have their decline credited to the vaccine?
Hi! CallMeMommy!, My Father, the Chiropractor used to say that, but as MT said, there was a scarlet fever vaccine, and it was so dangerous that it was quietly put away...

I always think of this when I read the Velveteen Rabbit to my third grade class.
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post #70 of 262
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Originally Posted by Unoppressed MAMA Q
do you think we're just flat-out STUPID?
your questions are not even valid.
I do not think he is even a doctor. I think he is playing with us.

:ing
post #71 of 262
So, I wonder if he's lurking at all, or if he posted and ran?
post #72 of 262
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Originally Posted by applejuice
I do not think he is even a doctor. I think he is playing with us.

:ing
No, he's real.
He's googleable.
Of course, he's also emailable (the real doc, at least.)
If we want to know if the person who started this thread is the real doctor, we could easily email him and ask.
post #73 of 262
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Originally Posted by Devaskyla
So, I wonder if he's lurking at all, or if he posted and ran?
Well, his profile says he last was active here about 6 minutes after his first post. So he hasn't read anything we've written. (unless under another name which is waaaaaaaaaay unlikely.) I will be interested to see if the good doc has anything to say later...and I hope so.
post #74 of 262
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Originally Posted by Devaskyla
So, I wonder if he's lurking at all, or if he posted and ran?
Coward

He has not signed back on, but may still be reading without logging in.
post #75 of 262
but probably not.

either way, I'd like to say that I have learned a lot from this thread, and I know others have as well.

This is why I love MDC.
post #76 of 262
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I do not think he is even a doctor. I think he is playing with us.
I googled him too and he is a real doc (unless he used Marc Grella's name.)
post #77 of 262
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Originally Posted by applejuice
Coward

He has not signed back on, but may still be reading without logging in.
How can you do that? By signing in as a guest perhaps? My computer just always knew who I was...
post #78 of 262
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Originally Posted by mytwogals
How can you do that? By signing in as a guest perhaps? My computer just always knew who I was...
If you log out and then come back, you're a "guest" until you log back in.
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