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post #41 of 47
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Originally Posted by nighten
I have not -- I've been having some issues lately with tolerating my fish oil (it's wonderful, not remotely fishy, and it's liquid but still having issues some days) and am hesitant to add another oil but is it available in pill/gelcap form maybe?

I even had to switch to raspberry leaf in capsules which I know is not as good because I can't stand the taste (which is so unlike me -- I love herbal teas normally but can't stand them now sigh). But even those I can't take daily because of the revisiting factor.

My toleration with ingestibles is a on-again, off-again thing and changes daily. Some mornings I can have a huge glass of milk -- others I can't stand the thought.
Flax seed oil, like fish oil, is available in gelcaps. I can't tolerate the liquids at all (I've never done well with liquid medication ). The gelcaps are more expensive, but they're totally worth it.

If you can't stand the taste of raspberry leaf right now, why are you still trying to take it? I know it sounds strange, but for me this goes right along with honoring one's cravings. Before I got pregnant with BeanBean, I loved to drink hot chocolate. While I was pregnant with him, I couldn't tolerate it *at all*, so I stopped drinking it. Likewise, while I was the kind of person who would put 6-8 teaspoons of sugar into a 10 ounce mug of tea before I got pregnant with him, during the pregnancy I was unable to tolerate any so I *stopped*. I think that my body will let me know what I need and what I don't, and that I'll only run into dietary problems when I'm not eating the things that my body wants in the way that it wants them.
post #42 of 47
Just got through reading all the updates, I've been traveling/offline all week!

Eilonwy- I hope your next US will be less frustrating.

Aprilshka- IL issues can be frustrating!

I actually really like my MIL, but I did get annoyed with her while we were visiting. Dd is 2 yo (just turned on 11/20) and she is still nursing. We arrived at IL's house and dd hadn't nursed AT ALL during the day, and she asked for "yummy nurnee" which I was happy to do, and MIL made several comments like "oh, you're such a big girl now, you don't need that anymore!" Also, I was talking about trying to not let dd drink milk because, frankly, she can't handle it (I don't think she has an allergy per say, but it gives her upset tummy) and MIL was shocked, and said, "Well, WHAT are you going to do?" like she would die if she didn't have milk. I said, "Well, she eats yogurt and cheese and they are not a problem, so I don't see why she needs to drink milk, it's not an issue."

The reason this REALLY annoyed me is because frankly, I don't see the difference between her grandson (2 months younger than dd) walking around with a pacifier in his mouth all the time and her 4 yo granddaughter sucking her thumb and drinking half a gallon of milk a day. So I'M the bad mother for still letting my 2 yo nurse, but my SIL is a good mother because she sticks a paci in her kids' mouth and gives them milk all the time instead of letting them nurse past 3 months? I just don't get it. : Even if she doesn't think what I'm doing is *better* than what SIL does, doesn't she realize that her other grandchildren are addicted to SUBSTITUTES for nursing???

Oh, and this is not to bash anyone who uses a paci, drinks milk, etc. It just annoys me that some people don't realize that those are are best complimentary to an extended nursing relationship, but more likely substitutionary. To make this more on topic for this thread, I do think she is a bit freaked out that I'm still nursing DD and I'm pregnant. Oh well!

I don't have any interesting updates other than I'm feeling more movement- kicks strong enough to get my attention rather than kicks that I have to try to feel. So I feel like I'm getting to the "fun" part.

Also, confession, I haven't been drinking pregnancy tea... I guess I should start but I'm so lazy and it takes so long to brew! Does it really help?
post #43 of 47
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Originally Posted by eilonwy
Flax seed oil, like fish oil, is available in gelcaps. I can't tolerate the liquids at all (I've never done well with liquid medication ). The gelcaps are more expensive, but they're totally worth it.
Sweet! I'll look for some at my health food store this week Thanks for the tip!

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Originally Posted by eilonwy
If you can't stand the taste of raspberry leaf right now, why are you still trying to take it?
Because it's a uterine toner and very good for pregnant women to take. But since I haven't been able to tolerate the tea, I've been doing encapsulated on days when I know I can handle it if I (sorry if TMI) burp it a bit. That means I'm not taking it every day but pretty much every other day so at least I'm getting some benefit from it.

I crave coffee still but don't drink it as the caffeine is bad for me. I guess in my mind, honoring one's cravings or revulsions are fine so long as there's a balance of what's good for you. I give in to my cravings usually and avoid the revulsions but when it comes to something I think is important -- well, that's the dilemma I guess. Make sense?
post #44 of 47
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Originally Posted by nighten
Because it's a uterine toner and very good for pregnant women to take. But since I haven't been able to tolerate the tea, I've been doing encapsulated on days when I know I can handle it if I (sorry if TMI) burp it a bit. That means I'm not taking it every day but pretty much every other day so at least I'm getting some benefit from it.

I crave coffee still but don't drink it as the caffeine is bad for me. I guess in my mind, honoring one's cravings or revulsions are fine so long as there's a balance of what's good for you. I give in to my cravings usually and avoid the revulsions but when it comes to something I think is important -- well, that's the dilemma I guess. Make sense?
It makes sense, it's just not the way that I see things. It's like this: I really believe that eating too much meat is not healthy. Shortly before we started TTC Miss BooBah, I went vegetarian. For me, this came very close to being a vegan diet because I didn't eat eggs or milk, but I wasn't really a vegan (still used honey, wore leather, etc). I took my B vitamins and was very pleased with myself for giving up meat entirely. Then I got pregnant, and I could think of *nothing* but getting my mouth wrapped around, of all things, hamburgers. Greasy, yicky hamburgers which I rarely ate *before* I went vegetarian. I couldn't get them off of my mind, but I kept telling myself that meat is not healthy, that I was getting all the vitamins and protien I needed, etc, etc and so forth. Eventually I did cave in, but it was after the first trimester had passed and all of the important stuff had happened already.

My daughter has a congenital kidney defect. When I found out about it, I thought at first that there could have been nothing to cause it in the things I'd done during the pregnancy. I went over everything in my head and the only thing that I might have done during the weeks in which her kidneys were forming was pump gas into the car. I let it go... and then, about a year later, I learned something about kidney development in utero: it requires an awful lot of vitamin B12, as well as healthy fats to happen correctly. I felt like someone had smacked me in the face; I did do this to my daughter, by failing to do the one thing that I had promised myself-- to listen to my body and trust my intuition. If I had relaxed and eaten those stupid hamburgers when I wanted them, my baby girl might not have had to go through all the tests and medication and crap that marred her first year of life. We might not have had to go through it! It wasn't a problem to listen to my cravings when I was pregnant with BeanBean; I didn't have many, mostly I had aversions to things which I already knew to be less than healthy for pregnant women (caffiene, sugar, etc). The things that I did crave were high in vitamin C-- grapefruit, oranges, more grapefruit, brussels sprouts (which I'd *loathed* before that pregnancy, but I couldn't get enough of them during the second and third trimesters...). It's not hard to honor your cravings when all that you want to eat is grapefruit and cream of wheat. It's much more difficult when what you want is a nice, juicy burger and you've just been so proud of yourself for being meat-free for a few months.

This time around, I have random cravings for bacon. We can't afford bacon, but when I have the chance I eat some. I always feel better after two or three slices, so I know that even given the opportunity, I won't sit down and eat the whole package. I figure, there's something in bacon that this baby needs right now, and it's not my job to ask questions but to provide. I can theorize to my heart's content about what redeeming features bacon may or may not have, but it all comes down to the fact that my BellyBean needs it and I need to get it for him. Just the same way as when things repell me, I know that I need to avoid them. I may not know why, but I know that I do. While I was pregnant with BooBah, I was able to drink caffienated beverages when I wanted them (infrequently) and they never made me feel ill. After she was born, I had a nice big cappuccino. She nursed and went to sleep. Her brother nursed and woke up at 1 am to puke all over daddy; even at 20 months, he was so sensitive to caffiene that he couldn't tolerate it in my breastmilk. He's three years old now, and he's still very sensitive to caffiene and sugar, while his sister is 17 months old and can drink the remains of Mike's coffee, and we'll have nothing worse to worry about than stains on her clothing. (Not that we encourage her, but you get the idea!)

I guess what I'm saying is, if something tastes really awful to you, perhaps there's a reason for it. Maybe you don't *need* a uterine toner right now, maybe your baby needs your uterus to be relaxed for the whole pregnancy. If you liked the taste of raspberry leaf tea before you got pregnant but now you can't stand it, well, that sends a message-- there's something about it that you don't need and probably shouldn't have.
post #45 of 47
Come on over to the new weekly thread
post #46 of 47
(Continuing here as we kind of hijacked the thread for a conversation and I don't want to move the hijack to a new thread -- nor start a new conversation elsewhere; so if it's okay, I'll just keep hijacking on this now-dead thread hehe.)

I get your point, absolutely! I was a vegetarian for nearly 15 years prior to becoming pregnant (well, I did start eating fish on rare occasions about 4 years ago after getting mono -- I had lost a ton of weight and it was scary -- anyway), but started eating meat around the end of first trimester.

Ohmystars it tastes SO good too! I felt really guilty the first few times then said forget this I'm pregnant. If my body wants meat then I'm giving it meat. (I have every intention of going back to vegeland after the baby's born.)

So I definitely do think there's good things to honoring your body's cravings. Absolutely (as long as it's not that pica thing). But sometimes it gets you in trouble.

Today I craved orange juice -- I woke up all sneezy and decided screw the heartburn I'm drinking OJ! So I did. Now my insides are on fire.

And I had been thinking the same was true for the whole revulsions issue -- to a point. I find peanut butter revolting nearly all the time now so I avoid it (plus I figure am getting protein the old-fashioned way now haha). But I'm getting the benefits elsewhere so that makes it okay in my book.

But nothing I take helps tone my uterus except the raspberry leaf. That's why I'd been resisting the revulsion and taking it anyway. Make sense? But I hadn't even considered that for some reason my body might need my uterus to be relaxed -- that's intriguing.

You've definitely given me food for thought. I'm also starting to pay more attention to other revulsions -- like normally I'm a HUGE fruit eater -- I mean obessively. But I find myself rarely eating fruit now. It just doesn't taste good to me. Wonder what's up with that?
post #47 of 47
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Originally Posted by nighten
But nothing I take helps tone my uterus except the raspberry leaf. That's why I'd been resisting the revulsion and taking it anyway. Make sense? But I hadn't even considered that for some reason my body might need my uterus to be relaxed -- that's intriguing.

You've definitely given me food for thought. I'm also starting to pay more attention to other revulsions -- like normally I'm a HUGE fruit eater -- I mean obessively. But I find myself rarely eating fruit now. It just doesn't taste good to me. Wonder what's up with that?
Maybe it's not fruit but the kinds of fruit that you're eating. Maybe your baby needs calcium more than vitamin C right now, and doesn't want you to fill up on fruit so that you've got more room for leafy green veggies (this is so me, I've been eating lots of spinach ). Maybe it's just the dietary fiber; when you're pregnant, your hormones slow your digestion a bit so that your body can suck more nutrients out of the foods that you eat. Perhaps all the healthy fiber in fruits causes food to move through your system faster than it would like, so your body translates that to push you away from fruits.

I actually spend a lot of time thinking about this-- why do I crave what I crave? Why do I have the aversions that I have? Some are obvious, like caffiene and processed sugars but others are more subtle. I understood that vitamin C was a good thing to get plenty of while I was pregnant, but it wasn't until I was pregnant with my daughter that I learned that vitamin C can help strengthen a weak amniotic sac. With my son, my membranes ruptured 4.5 days before he was born despite my inhaling grapefruits at every opportunity. While I was pregnant with my daughter, I inhaled Tang and other things which are very high in vitamin C and felt no guilt about it at all, even if it meant that my diet was extremely unbalanced at times. I knew what my body was telling me-- that it needed help to make a strong, healthy amniotic sac and that it was more important than eating a balanced diet just then. It helped, too; BooBah's water did break early, but it was a direct result of her turning from vertex to breech at nearly 39 weeks, instead of a random, scary event at 36.5 like it was with BeanBean.

I normally can't stand raspberry tea or raspberry leaf tea, but while I'm pregnant the stuff tastes delicious. In my last pregnancy, despite the fact that I took flax seed oil I craved fish constantly; this time, I have a slight aversion to fish. Some things are consistant through my pregnancies (sugar aversion is pretty consistant for me) but other things are random and strange, like this bacon craving (my mouth is watering! ). It's all a matter of trust that my body knows what this particular baby needs to grow into a healthy little person. I know that even if I do everything right things can go wrong, but I also know that I'll feel better about everything if I do the very best that I can do when it comes to trusting my intuition.
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