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post #81 of 644
I'm sorry, but I recently saw a posting for a $120 pair of pants with a shirt. I sell handpainted shirts. For $15. Other WAMH that put just as much time into their longies sell them for $50. How is $120 not overpriced for something that I could get for $65?

ETA: I also just only spent $35 on an awesome really cute and soft pair of longies for my daughter.
post #82 of 644
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Originally Posted by fullofgrace
It really did. More than once. And that's all I'm saying... is that it has happened more than once on both sides. I have seen it go both ways. I'm not denying that. Just because it got pulled by a quick-thinking overworked mod (I feel for them. I've done that job other placs!) doesn't mean it didn't happen. kwim?
Well that does suck. I am not saying it didn't happen, just that it sucks. I rarely go to diapering anymore though (cuz I am a hater of the split!).
post #83 of 644
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Originally Posted by spatulagirl
I can't be bothered. It's lame But could you imagine me PMing someone and telling them they suck because they use towels or Gerber prefolds?
No I can't. Although I seem to recall being called a troll when I supported a mama who was happy she had a prefold and a snappi.
post #84 of 644
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Originally Posted by Kathryn
I'm sorry, but I recently saw a posting for a $120 pair of pants with a shirt. I sell handpainted shirts. For $15. Other WAMH that put just as much time into their longies sell them for $50. How is $120 not overpriced for something that I could get for $65?

ETA: I also just only spent $35 on an awesome really cute and soft pair of longies for my daughter.
It's my understanding that the maker of the $65 outfit is probably paying herself around $2 an hour, and the maker of the $120 outfit is probably paying herself around $5 an hour, which is still less than minimum wage.
post #85 of 644
I think it is silly that we even have to debate or defend ourselves (as in every mama on MDC) period. Who cares what kinda cloth you use?

We are fighting over ass rags!

I love my dipes I have flats and some hyena dipes. I enjoy both sides of the cloth experience.

Why the need to be so hateful and nasty? TO either side?

I honestly do not get it....

I would like the boards as one and to freakin get along.




I am better now :
post #86 of 644
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathryn
I'm sorry, but I recently saw a posting for a $120 pair of pants with a shirt. I sell handpainted shirts. For $15. Other WAMH that put just as much time into their longies sell them for $50. How is $120 not overpriced for something that I could get for $65?

ETA: I also just only spent $35 on an awesome really cute and soft pair of longies for my daughter.
some people are obviously willing to pay themselves far less than they deserve. I dont think that makes anyone who pays themselves a fair wage overpriced.

Lets look at the pricing for most store bought items -
Labor + Materials = wholesale
wholesale x 2 = retail

say it takes two skeins of yarn at $8 a piece ( i have no idea what the going rate for nice yarn is) that is $16 for materials alone (not even thinking about the costs of running a website, shipping/printing supplies, costs of things you use in your home (for example if you dye your own yarn you need to include the cost of the dye as well as the cost of water/electricty etc).

Labor - IF it were to take you 5 hours to knit pants... I assume that is actually under what it really takes and you paid yourself $10 an hour (which is much lower than what I would consider an "artists" pay rate. If you are an independent seamstress you usually get paid about $20). Tahts $50 in labor

Wholesale = $50 + 15 = $66
Retail would be $132

It seems to be that both are underpricing themsevles
post #87 of 644
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Originally Posted by Kathryn
I'm sorry, but I recently saw a posting for a $120 pair of pants with a shirt. I sell handpainted shirts. For $15. Other WAMH that put just as much time into their longies sell them for $50. How is $120 not overpriced for something that I could get for $65?

ETA: I also just only spent $35 on an awesome really cute and soft pair of longies for my daughter.
Those are sweat shop prices. Sorry. They are losing money and not making money. It takes me at least a week to knit a pair of longies for my girl. And the yarn itself could cost up to $30. That is $2 an hour.

I don't know which longie and shirt set you are talking about but if you showed me I could break the prices down for you.

You should charge more for your shirts too.
post #88 of 644
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
No I can't. Although I seem to recall being called a troll when I supported a mama who was happy she had a prefold and a snappi.

that thread was started amidst a few others that were started as mere jokes. the tone of the thread was odd and misunderstandings took place. it is unfortunate, and apologies were given. its hard feeling like everyone is secretly poking fun at you. it was a human mistake. MANY threads have been started (by all types of cd'ing moms) celebrating simple cloth diapering solutions.

i didn't mean to say odd...i should just say that amidst the other threads it was hard to know the intentions of the thread...
post #89 of 644
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
No I can't. Although I seem to recall being called a troll when I supported a mama who was happy she had a prefold and a snappi.
Ah yes, I remember that thread. Don't take it personally though, everyone thought they were being made fun of, when in fact no one was.
post #90 of 644
Also...I feel that the mamas who use the diapering board teh most should have the most input.

I rarely go into TAO. I would not expect an equal vote if things were to be moved around. It does not really affect me.
post #91 of 644
Thread Starter 
while i have my math cap on lets go ahead and look at reasonable costs for diapers

Most diapers that are made of hemp and high quality wovens cost about $8 in materials after you add in the doubler, snap, label, thread, etd. Materials = 8

On a really good day I can get 2 done in an hour BUT that doesnt include time spent taking pictures, stocking, shipping, etc. If i were to pay myself $10 an hour ( i refuse to work from home for less than that because otherwise its not worth it for me - see previous post about most seamstresses get at least $20) Thats $5 a diaper

Wholesale = 8 + 5 = 13
REtail = 26

Organic cotton diapers would be much more than that... I dont go to the grocery store or the local health food store looking to get things at wholesale cost so I dont assume my diapering products should be wholesale either.
post #92 of 644
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Originally Posted by AngelBee
Also...I feel that the mamas who use the diapering board teh most should have the most input.
That would really just cause division and hard feelings. How would you go about deciding who uses the board 'enough' to get a vote? Someone with a huge number of posts to their name is no better than the quieter CD mama, who is trying to gain as much info as possible.
post #93 of 644
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Originally Posted by fullofgrace
That would really just cause division and hard feelings. How would you go about deciding who uses the board 'enough' to get a vote? Someone with a huge number of posts to their name is no better than the quieter CD mama, who is trying to gain as much info as possible.
No....I just find it weird that so many mamas come out of the woodwork to fight about keeping it split yet do not contribute regularly to the board.
post #94 of 644
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Originally Posted by fullofgrace
That would really just cause division and hard feelings. How would you go about deciding who uses the board 'enough' to get a vote? Someone with a huge number of posts to their name is no better than the quieter CD mama, who is trying to gain as much info as possible.

You hit it on the nose mama. The quieter cd mama's asked for the separation and now there is division and hard feelings and the forums are less active because the regular users are gone.

eta - so these quiet mama's are getting less information because there is less traffic. a post about how to get rid of stink will linger for days because there's no one there to answer it. how has that helped?
post #95 of 644
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Originally Posted by spatulagirl
Ah yes, I remember that thread. Don't take it personally though, everyone thought they were being made fun of, when in fact no one was.
Which is kind of my point. Everyone here has felt slighted, be it real or perceived. The new setup is not disallowing anyone to post. The biggest arguement I'm seeing against it is that now people have to stop and figure out where their posts belong. I just don't get the huge deal.
post #96 of 644
In my experience, most mamas looking for info on cloth are willing to take it all in. KWIM? I do not believe that they would care about the board being as one.

I didn't when I came here and neither have the mamas I have refered to this site.
post #97 of 644
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Originally Posted by AngelBee
Also...I feel that the mamas who use the diapering board teh most should have the most input.

I rarely go into TAO. I would not expect an equal vote if things were to be moved around. It does not really affect me.
Really? Why? I don't understand why someone who diversifies, so to speak, and posts on many places on MDC and not just one, should have her opinion count any less than someone who only posts in diapering.
post #98 of 644
Thread Starter 
and fwiw only 33% of my posts are in diapering so i think im a pretty well rounded MDC mama
post #99 of 644
I have talked about simple cloth diapering NUMEROUS times with hyena mamas.

I have NEVER felt belittled, disrepected, or looked down upon. I honestly don't get what this is all about.
post #100 of 644
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Originally Posted by zexplorers
the regular users are gone.
Which goes back to my point earlier in this thread: post and they will come. 'Regular users' stick around, they don't leave.
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