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post #1 of 25
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This is my first post but I lurk here often. I hope this is the right place to post this. I'm really needing advice on how to handle a family situation right now. My parents are divorced, and my mother has a boyfriend that she has been with for almost 3 years. She met him on an internet dating site and moved in with him right away. I have two daughters 2 and 6 months. He really showed little to no interest in my oldest dd until she was about 9 months. All of a sudden he started giving her alot of attention, that I didn't think much about at first. Every time we saw him he started paying more and more attention to her. It is now to the point where that is all he does. No matter what is going on, if we are at a family function, or just visiting them at their house, he spends all of him time with DD and doesn't really even communicate with other adults. He does alot of things that make me very uneasy, such as patting her on the bottom, sharing food with her like popsicles. He will be eating something and then he sticks he tounge out of his mouth and noticably licks the popsicle or whatever it is, so that DD will want some. Something inside of me just wants to scream get away from my child. But, I politely tell my daughter that we don't share food and pull her away from the situation. He then pouts about it, and attempts to do the same thing later. He asked me a few months ago if I switched diapers. I said, " no, why?". He said that he noticed her butt looked different. That really creeped me out. He also repeatedly asks when she can spend the night. Just to make myself clear, I have never ever left either of my girls alone with him, so I certainly would not let them spend the night at their house. Him and my mom decided a few months ago that he would be called Grandpa. I told her no, I was not comfortable with that. Yet they continue to refer to him as Grandpa. He is constantly video taping DD and taking pictures of her. He says he had never know what is was to love a child until he met my DD, and he tells my mom that he loves her like he loves DD. He says he can't live without DD. About a month ago, my mom called me to tell me about a cute dream he had, and she told me that he had a dream about DD where she was running to him and the wind was blowing through her hair and soft music was playing. That did it, and I told her I didn't want him around my children. We hung up the phone, and I was doing fine with my decision, until she called me back and told me how awful I am and I am just doing this to be mean, and this is a terrible thing to do to DD. She turned the whole family against me, so I ended up letting them back in my life again. I am young ( 21 in January), so my parenting is constantly being criticized and questioned by others, which really makes me doubt myself. My mother told me the other night that if I ever parented my children in a way that she felt was wrong she would try to take them away from me, which scares me to death. Anyways, with Thanksgiving being on Thursday, we were planning on going over to my sister's house. My mom and her boyfriend are going to be there. I have decided to not allow my children to be around that man ever again, so we are not going. I have not told my mom or my family yet, but I know that I'm going to hear what a horrible person I am again, and I am wondering what you all think. Is this a terrible thing for me to do? This guy creeps me out, and my mothering instinct is telling me to stay as far away from him as possible. I just wanted to get others thoughts on this. Sorry this was so long.

Amber
post #2 of 25
Hey Mama,

Respect your mama instincts. There is a great book by Gavin de Becker called "The Gift of Fear" that says that if we listened to when our inner voice said to be wary rather than when society said to (i.e. news hysteria), we would both be safer and less stressed. If he freaks you out then by all means stay away.
post #3 of 25
Trust your instincts!!! The guy sounds pretty creepy. I don't really have any advice concerning your family and how to deal with them. I just wanted to say go with your gut. You are the person put on earth to protect your children and it isn't anyone else's business. As far as your mom taking your kids, don't worry about it. The courts aren't going to remove the kids b/c your mom wants them with her or b/c she disagrees with your parenting. Is it possible to still allow your mom supervised visits with the kids at your home? Just make it clear you don't feel comfortable with how her husband is acting around your daughter.
On another note if you are interested. Gavin DeBecker has two excellent books out talking about trusting your instincts and gut feelings. They are The "Gift of Fear" and "Protecting the Gift" (about protecting your children). They are amazing reads and I highly recommend them to everyone.
post #4 of 25
Listen to your gut! You are a great mama for listening so far, don't let "being polite" over rule how you feel about this man. What he's doing w/your daughter is commonly called "grooming" and is the first step to creating a relationship w/her where abuse is likely to occur. Read Gavin De Becker's book "Protecting the Gift," it's a wonderful book.

And he loves your mom like he loves your dd? WRONG. Sick and wrong and color me judgemental, but you don't get a 2nd chance w/my kids, let alone a first if I can help it.

Listen to your instincts mama and stay far, far away.
post #5 of 25
Trust the momma radar!!! Be strong and stand up for your dd since she is too young to stand up for herself. That is the most important thing!
post #6 of 25
Oh - 2 more things...





And when my abuser first started w/the physical crap, it was on Thanksgiving while I sat on his lap in a room FULL of family. My mom was sitting next to us on the couch, my dad across the room, abusers don't care when it comes to getting their jollies. And when my mom made me go to Thanksgiving the following year there (and he was going to be there)...well, I'm not sure that I'll ever forget/forgive that. And it was all in the name of "being polite."


Hugs, mama, it's hard to do the right thing.
post #7 of 25
The beginning of your post made my stomach clench up. You are right to be afraid, and I am so glad you made the decision to not let your dc's near this man. Even if you're wrong - you've offended someone - big deal. If you're right you are saving your girls from a lifetime of pain.

Don't let your family judgment of you get you down. Families very often try to protect/ignore and abuser. You are doing the right thing.

Hugs mama - and I to you for being so strong.
post #8 of 25
Go with your gut! Who cares if you make some grown-ups unhappy? Your children NEED you to protect them!
post #9 of 25
Just how does your mother even THINK she is going to actually take away your children from you? Because you won't let your children call some recent BOYFRIEND "Grandpa"? Because you refuse to let her BF fondle your kids? What IS her problem?

I would cut off anyone who threatened me with that kind of thing. Like yesterday. Please make sure you document everything you have told us and whatever else you might not have. I also would be contacting an attorney to find out about your rights. Get a restraining order if you have to.
post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by TinkerBelle
Just how does your mother even THINK she is going to actually take away your children from you? Because you won't let your children call some recent BOYFRIEND "Grandpa"? Because you refuse to let her BF fondle your kids? What IS her problem?

I would cut off anyone who threatened me with that kind of thing. Like yesterday. Please make sure you document everything you have told us and whatever else you might not have. I also would be contacting an attorney to find out about your rights. Get a restraining order if you have to.
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I was going to say the same thing. wth? your mom saying that, is awful,rude,horrid and then she acts all nice-how psycho is that?! Go w/ your gut & document everything!!! Just because you are young does not mean you can't be a good mama- read,read,read. Go to the library and request good ap books-usually they will get them for you if they don't have them-(if you live near a bigger city). This will help you when people question your parenting skills- NOT that you have to defend them,by all means tell them off!
Are you married? do you have a partner in raising your kiddos? I'd move far away! I moved to another state for family reasons and it was hard at first but it was the best decision I've made!!
now if I don't want to come for some family function-no one gives me a guilt trip. good luck-mama
post #11 of 25
Definately trust your mama instincts. If your family or your mother cannot respect that then that is too bad for them. As a mother it is your job to protect your babies. When something doesn't feel right, there is a reason for that. What you described does sound creepy, it could be just innocent behavior, but it would make me feel uncomfortable too. I would NOT wait around for something to happen before doing something about it.

You are ABSOLUTELY justified in keeping your baby away from this person. I support you mama, I'd do the same if I were in your situation. I'm sorry that your family cannot be more understanding.
post #12 of 25
Amber,

Listen to your gut. Just because you are young, it does not mean you are not in tune with it.
I'm old enough to be your mother, and your mother's behavior is unacceptable, as is her BF.
Read the books the others recommended.
Stay strong, and come back here if you need support, we will be here for you!

Kristina
post #13 of 25
Can you do a background check on this guy? I know some states post registered sex offenders on the internet. You should trust your instincts either way, but you may be able to proove to your mom that your right in how you feel about this guy.
post #14 of 25
It sounds like you are doing a great job... keep following your gut! I know all about the judgements made on younger mothers as I was the same age as you were when you had your first when I had my little guy. I think everyone starts off in about the same place when it comes to parenting... its new to us all. I remember feeling such judgement though, and my biggest fear was having someone take my child away from me. I am so sorry that you are faced with your mother threatening you like that.
It sounds as if you are in an awfully stressful situation... I wish I could give you a hug. Youve done evrything right. The worst thing that can happen if you stay away is that some feelings could be hurt. Pretty harmless in the scheme of things. Don't be "nice"! Keep following your gut
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by KateMary
Can you do a background check on this guy? I know some states post registered sex offenders on the internet. You should trust your instincts either way, but you may be able to proove to your mom that your right in how you feel about this guy.
yeah, i believe there are free web sites you can check on-let me do some research for you & get back to you...
post #16 of 25
What everyone else says.
Is there an older member of your family that you could explain your pov to? What about your father- is he still around in your life? You shouldn't have to cope with some jackass destroying your family without anyone knowing WHY you're concerned and possibly even coming in to bat for you and your daughters.
I don't like Gavin De Becker's writings: I think they encourage us to look for the worst in any possible situation and distort our instincts: but here, you're having a gut reaction. Listen to it.
post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thank you everyone, for your kind words. You are a wonderful group of women. I am married, and my dh is extremely supportive, and feels the same way I do. He works alot though and isn't home much, so I have to deal with most of this on my own. I have tried to talk to my other family members about what is going on, but they say that I'm being ridiculous and that my mom's boyfriend just loves dd, and there is nothing wrong with what has been going on. They say that a child needs all the love they can get, and I am depriving my dd by not letting him have anything to do with her. My father and I really aren't that close. We have had a really rocky relationship. I have tried to talk to him about this, but he acts like I am some sort of sicko for even thinking what's going on is weird. I don't have alot of self confidence, and my mother likes to take advantage of that. I have not been one to stand up for myself. I often ask my mother why she treats me so much worse than my sister's and she says, "because I know no matter what I do to you, you will still love me." I am not close with my sisters either. They are actually half sisters. My parent's marriage was a second marriage for both of them, so I was born later in their life. There is 17 years between me and my sister on my dad's side, and 17 and 18 years between me and my sisters on my mom's side. So, I pretty much have to deal with this by myself. I'm going to check into getting a background check on my mother's boyfriend, but to be perfectly honest I don't think my mom would care even if something did turn up. He has already cheated on her 4 times, and she stayed with him. I do know that her boyfriend had a step son that he basically raised, and the step son has not spoken to my mom's boyfriend since long before they got together. Anyways, thank you so much for all of your support. It has really confirmed what I have been feeling in my heart all along. I will forget about pleasing my family, and make sure my girls are never around that man again. Thank you also for the book recommendations, I will check them out.

Amber
post #18 of 25
OK, this might sound like a really odd response, but it works. You cannot confront someone or be honest with anyone who DOES NOT want to hear the truth.
So, here is an oxymoron for you. LIE. Lie, lie, lie.
It may sound odd, but it will work, and (pun intended) it's the truth.
You cannot confront your mom and say to her: hey mom, your boyfriend is a pedophile. But you know otherwise. TRUST YOUR GUT. That's the only reason that these guys are out there, because somewhere there is a mother doubting herself and they prey on that.
So play the dutiful daughter and don't rock the boat--lie and tell them that you would love to come for Thanksgiving but that you are sick, that you can't come over for other family events because the kids are sick, the toilet overflowed, the oven caught on fire, the dog has worms, the dishwasher is shooting water at the ceiling, the dryer has black smoke coming out of it, the electricity is off and you have to empty the freezer before all the food goes bad. Anything. But remember to also say--gee, I wish we could come, we'll really miss out on the fun. In your own words, of course.
That way you don't confront your mother and have to listen to her threaten you about taking your kids, you don't have to deal with her manipulation and have the family against you, etc. Because afterall, you really want to be there, but life has thrown you a curve ball.
You have the play the same game that this guy is playing but BETTER.
See, this is our problem as mothers. We think that we have to play fair in the world because it is the right thing to do---which it is-----but what we don't realize is that not everyone is playing the same game that we are.
So we have to get on their board, because they aren't coming over to ours--and then beat them at their own game, because the stakes for us are HIGHER--the protection of our children.
Your children will still be raised with excellent values, even if they happen to overhear you tell your mom that the toilet is overflowing, and they know otherwise. Soon they will learn that winning (especially when the stakes are INCREDILY high--like sexual abuse that could ruin them for life) is much better than playing the game of life in a fair way and being totally honest with people who aren't seeing the truth or reality at all.
Your mom loves you a great deal---but she can't see the reality because she also loves this creep.
But you are a mom, too, and your dd is your #1 concern.
Congrats to you for seeing the signs, and congrats for you for protecting your child above the wants and desires of your family. You have made the right choice.
Heed the red flags and do what you have to stay away, even if it requires a little bit of dishonesty that won't rock the boat and anger your mother-as long as it will keep your dd protected.
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by rebeccamaryll
The beginning of your post made my stomach clench up.
I feel the same way. I was abused for years, and it started when I was 4 years old. It continued for years, until I told my mom when I was 10. No one suspected a thing. My mother has always been more involved in her love life than the lives of her children, and this sounds like your mom too.

My aunt is still married to the man that abused me. She doesn't believe it. It's caused a rift in the family because my mom stands by me, and trusts that I'm telling the truth. Honestly, GranoLLLy is right. Tell them whatever, and stay home. If they ask you why you aren't around, then address it then. In the meantime, talk to a lawyer and find out what legal rights you have.

Good luck! I know it's hard. s Be strong. Your babies need you!
post #20 of 25
Without yet reading the other posts, the first thing I would do is pay the money to have a criminal check done on him. Google his name, see what comes up.

Secondly, keep your daughter far, far away from him. Make it clear to her that he is NOT her grandpa. If your mom wants to see your daughter, she can come alone to your house, or meet you at the store.

No matter how much pressure you feel now, you need to be strong and stand up for your daughter. I have had too many times where I set my feelings aside in order to be polite, then regretted later that I didn't stand up for my husband and children-never again.
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