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post #1 of 17
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My 5-year-old DD is in kindergarten. A little background: Her teacher missed about a week or so, returned to the class, then left again in late October for family leave to care for an ill parent. She is a veteran teacher; just by looking at her, I would guess in the 20-year range. Now, she has been gone all of this time, but she was the one who conducted the parent-teacher conference last week.

After telling DH and I we have a good kid, she said, “She is very shy.” She then went on and on about how DD doesn’t raise her hand to answer questions and will totally stay on the sidelines until an activity has commenced, like she is afraid to make a mistake. She told us that we need to boost her self-confidence whenever we can. This is a kid who in 2005 has learned to skate, ride a two-wheeler, swim and tie her shoes. Her self-confidence hardly seems lacking. And academically, she is fine. She is interested in learning to read and write and knows all of the kindergarten essentials. On the playground, she will go up to other kids and introduce herself. It is they who seem taken aback. I chalk up the classroom reticence to fear of making a mistake; i.e., a perfectionist.

My friends thought that perhaps this teacher’s mind is elsewhere and/or she has a poor bedside manner with parents dealing with their very first conference. I tell myself that hey, she hardly knows my kid since she has been gone so much, and that being quiet in class isn’t so bad if you are learning. Still, you can't help worry that she is being looked at as less bright than the outgoing kids.

Has anyone else been through anything like this? If I could afford it, I swear we would go Montessori. She was in a Montessori-style preschool last year, so perhaps the adjustment to public school every-minute-scheduled curriculum is part of the deal. And the preschool teacher said essentially the same thing last year, but she cast it in a favorable light. She called DD an “observer,” saying she is really someone who looks before she leaps and doesn’t miss a trick. That felt better to hear than just having a kid labeled as “shy.”Any input would be appreciated; I have been tossing and turning about this.
post #2 of 17
Yes, I was labelled "shy".

One of the many compelling reasons for my looking into homeschooling.
post #3 of 17
I think you can just relax and not worry too much about it.

"Shy" in normal in the beginning of K, just watch as the year progresses and see if she's becoming a more active member of the class, or sticking with the "observer" role. There's nothing wrong with observing in the slightest! There's a lot of reasons why she might be acting "shy" .. what does she say when you ask her? Is she nervous? are the other kids overwhelming? Does she worry she won't be "right?"

Sometimes at PTCs the parents and I will discuss how we can make the child an "expert" at a chosen topic that I will be teaching in the future, so that the child can learn about it at home ahead of time, and be able to shine when we get to that unit. Sometimes doing this a few times is all it takes to *click* with the child that the classroom is a safe place to offer ideas and speak up. Can you ask the teacher what their next Science/SS unit is? (I'm guessing at some point in the year they will do living vs non-living things and All About Me type learning) Then at home just do fun things on that topic-- games, look up things on the computer, TV shows, conversations, museums, etc. You can tell her that she'll study it in school or just let it be a surprise.

As long as the PTC was generally positive, I don't think this one issue should be something you worry about, either in terms of there being something weird with your child or something weird with the school. Sounds like a pretty normal conversation in the first months of K! Remember, socialization and oral communication is a big part of K... which is why the teacher would bring it up.. to let you know it's something everyone's working on.
post #4 of 17
I was labelled "Shy" by my teacher too in elementary school and continued to be labelled that up until I started College.

When I was about to graduate from High School (back home) I was called a "Sinner" by my teacher for being shy!

And My Sin?

That was I was too shy to kiss teacher's @$$es and still I had excellent scores on my tests. In my country without teacher's personal favor it's tough to get good scores! They make a lot of $$ by privately tutoring students, which in the end doesn't help as our Big Test don't get scored by our own school's teachers.
post #5 of 17
I think that if a child is labled long enough they might start to believe it.
dsd has nbeen labled as being "behind" but not engough that she'll qualify for help -- basically the teachers tell her she's not capable of things and she believes them and instead of trying to help they lable her and stick her in the "throwaway" track. We managed to pull her out of that track, but esenitally she doesn't learn the way the school teaches and after 5 years of labels she believes she's "dumb" (when really she had a late start at school and needs some help to catch up). We teach her at home but its hard to compete with the teachers whom often teach things incorrectly (lobster is my favorite fish type things). We'd love to pull her out but if we take her out we can't put her back (maganet school). My friend and I are slowing implanting the idea of homeschooling in DH's mind -- I work FT so he'd be teacher.
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by sovereignqueen
dsd has nbeen labled as being "behind" but not engough that she'll qualify for help -- basically the teachers tell her she's not capable of things and she believes them and instead of trying to help they lable her and stick her in the "throwaway" track.

how sad.

(can i rant for a minute and blame it all on the horrible horrible testing culture perfected by NCLB..... grrr....it's SOO not in the children's best interest)
post #7 of 17
The problem is that society looks down on shy/introverted people. I would do a little research on the net on caring for an introvert. I no longer have information but introverst are often punished for their inborn nature.

Also, if the teacher said she was a perfectionist review and watch her. Is she such a perfectionist she is holding back in social situations out of fear?
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Marsupialmom
The problem is that society looks down on shy/introverted people. I would do a little research on the net on caring for an introvert. I no longer have information but introverst are often punished for their inborn nature.

Also, if the teacher said she was a perfectionist review and watch her. Is she such a perfectionist she is holding back in social situations out of fear?
I think you have bingo here. She would rather not try at all than try and be wrong. I haven't the foggiest idea how to address that. I have told her, "don't worry, people won't think less of you if you do something wrong." But like you said, inborn nature is just that.

Altair, I like your idea of having her be an "expert" on a unit the class will be learning. I will discuss that with the teacher when/if she returns. Until then, it is the substitute parade (oh, I'm sorry ... "Guest Teacher" ... what a crock, these labels), which is disconcerting in itself.

I'm glad I'm not alone in this boat. On the bright side, there was a little snippet in the paper today about famous introverts: Albert Einstein, Sir Isaac Newton, Michael Jordan, Steven Spielberg among them. Thirty percent of the population is introverted.

I think I will try to become a volunteer mom in the class once in awhile. Maybe that will help.
post #9 of 17
You might check out the link "The Highly Sensitive Child" and the companion "Highly Sensitive Person". Basically, 15-20% of people are gifted with increased sensitivity and increased awareness to other's emotional experiences and of environmental stimuli. Both dh and ds are highly sensitive. We celebrate their unique abilities of awareness and sensitivity. You might share the link with the teacher.

http://www.hsperson.com/pages/child.htm

Pat
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thank you, Pat; that is a great link. Something else I was reading on the 'net mentioned that because so many teachers are extraverts, they cannot fathom what makes an introverted child tick. Sort of makes sense, as although I always thought I would enjoy working with children as a teacher one-on-one (especially high school age), the thought of having to stand in front of them every day made me break into a cold sweat. I guess the DD didn't fall too far from the mama tree.
post #11 of 17
Pat, thank you very much for that link!
post #12 of 17
I'll be one of those annoying mamas who starts off her post with....

I didn't have time to read all the replies but

My sister was labeled shy in pre-k. My parents latched onto it, and she began to use it as a major crutch. She was in the top 10 off her graduating class (not top 10 percent--top 10 people, out of well over 600 people!), got scholarships from it, won academic awards in school. She wanted to be either a biologist or a high school teacher

Yet she's still working at McDonalds and Taco Bell, never took a college class. Why? "I'm too shy to apply to college. You know I'm shy"

:

NOT saying this is typical, but I'd hate for ANY label to be placed on achild at such an age. Please don't subscribe to it like my parents did.

Kelly
post #13 of 17
It bothers me that shy is viewed as a negative trait. I was always told I was shy and since it was a 'bad' thing to be, it only made me feel down on myself- not exactly the way to encourage someone to be more outgoing. In later years I learned I'm not so much shy as I am introverted- I need to assess situations and people before I'm comfy.

I think the teacher has probably mislabled your daughter
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by alicia622
I'm not so much shy as I am introverted- I need to assess situations and people before I'm comfy.
And that's what I think is the case with my sister. But with her teachers and my parents saying that she's "just shy", she began to lean on that too much and use it more like an excuse.

It takes all kinds. Not everyone raises their hands or likes extra attention or feels comfortable in large groups, and that doesn't mean they are shy.
post #15 of 17
Some kids are more comfortable learning in a one on one or small group setting than having to preform in front of a group. Many college students still don't raise their hands or participate in group discussions, even when they know the material and do well on exams. I, too, would avoid labels... it only encourages stereotypes at this point in her life.
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
Great suggestions here. I have done a lot of reading about it, and I think the most troublesome thing that came out of that conference is that the teacher made it sound like an issue.

There was a really good link in Child magazine, too, believe it or not:

Raising an introvert
post #17 of 17
Thanks for the article. I am going to post it in the "Highly Sensitive Child" tribe.

Pat
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