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post #1 of 39
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I put this is parenting because I am sure both SAHMs and WOHM/WAHMs can possibly relate.

I am having one of those days where I fell like my only role is as a "convenience factor", meaning all I am good for is a car ride, a meal or whatever. I cleaned the kitchen and my teenage daughter came down to heat pizza. I am sure I will find the plate in the sink. I will do dishes many many times over the course of the day. I will pick up my husbands prescription, be home for him at lunch, and volunteer at the school for lunch and playground, then possibly squeeze in a nap before I pick up the boys and make an early dinner as I have to go to work at 7pm tonight, one of the busiest n nights in the ER (no its not Friday!).

I "have" to take my daughter on an errand as we took her car away because of her behavior and basic irresponsibility. She is incredibly moody, and always has been. Today and yesterday, for instance, its been minute by minute. And my DH is no different, although he would disagree. In fact, as I was putting the boxes and bags that we put our Xmas ornaments in (we put the tree up last night), I realized....she is just like him! I have always felt that nothing I did was good enough, and that if i was 50 IQ point less, my husband might like me better. No matter that I clean the house, do laundry, and work outside the home. In fact, many times I feel my stress is self imposed because technically I don't have to work (my husband does well, but only in the last 3 years, please know that for the most part we have always needed me to do something because he is commission based). So now the unspoken thing is "I make close to 6 figures, you don't have to work, therefore I no longer have to do anything". In fact, I'll take it a step further and blurt that the other unspoken thing is... "you can do anything you want as long as you do everything else". Its no wonder my daughter is the way she is, she sees her dad. And my boys are different, especially my middle one who is deeply sensitive and kind and giving, unlike his sister who i feel is selfish. And my husband? well, I am thinking he is selfish too. Yes he works 60 hours a week, and yes all of our money is pooled, nothing like some of the horror stories you have read....but i feel that as a wife I am a profound disappointment. That because I am not Suzy homemaker (even though if you saw me go through my day you might think i was!), I disappoint him.

I am not comparing myself, but for dinner tonight I am making chicken and mushrooms, for a meal I wont even eat. And tomorrow? Pan seared baby sirloins with a creamy port wine sauce and roasted asparagus.

I feel like crying today, in fact i am holding them in as I type. Am I wrong to feel this way? Is it me? I am not a sensitive person, meaning my feelings aren't easily hurt. My husband will tell you i am "low maintenance". Yet, my heart aches, and I am feeling let down by the whole deal.

I could go on and on. And I know myself, i will feel better tomorrow and then count my lucky stars. And possibly even post in a "a wonderful life" thread, because many days I feel that I do. But more and more, i am feeling exhausted by my relationships.

If you have made it this far and haven't gagged, thanks.

Lisa
post #2 of 39
Hugs to you! I soooo know where you're coming from. I feel that way quite often, actually. I feel as if so much of my life is spent on maintenance and I wonder when do I get to do the living part?!! It can become almost debilitating for me at times.

I wish I had an answer that would help you feel better but I don't. I just try to remind myself that life exemplifies the 80/20 rule: 80% of my time is spent doing sucky stuff but oh! the other 20%!
post #3 of 39
Ooooooh mama, you need some YOU time, and FAST! Any chance you could lighten the load a bit over the next several days? I mean like takeout for supper, daughter can find her own rides, let dishes pile up a bit? Can you bail on anything, work or volunteer wise (if not today, then later in the week?) If you can get a little space for yourself, then maybe you can look at your relationships again and decide if more drastic action is needed.

I hope you find some relief!
post #4 of 39
If your dd has lost car privileges then that should include being chauffered, unless there is a major reason for it.

I agree with the pp you need some you time.
post #5 of 39
I recently reread "The Dance of Anger." One of the things the author talks about that really got me thinking was "overfunctioning" and "underfunctioning." Her point is that the more you overfunction and take on more and more, the more you allow everyone else to underfunction. What about trying to take some time for yourself and let other things slide for a while, and see if the others in your family pick up any of the slack.
post #6 of 39
They should be more aware of how lucky they are to have you!!!

Sounds to me like you're "low maintenance" because you keep working even when something's wrong. That's admirable and shows great strength. But it also allows your family to take you for granted. I don't think a big sudden fit of anger would be helpful to you or effect much change on their behavior; I think the way to go is to negotiate some small changes, one at a time. For instance, maybe you could make a policy that on nights when you won't be home for dinner, someone else is responsible for cooking. If none of them know how to cook, start training an apprentice!

Then there are the little one-time things that can really get you down. For example:
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I cleaned the kitchen and my teenage daughter came down to heat pizza. I am sure I will find the plate in the sink.
I know just how you feel! Doesn't it always seem like the moment you get all the dishes washed and put away and everything cleaned up, someone produces more dirty dishes and crumbs everywhere?! But here's what I've done, and it usually works: "I know dishes aren't usually your job, but I just washed a whole bunch and would like to enjoy the cleanliness for a while. When you finish your pizza, could you please wash that one plate?"

Seeing the similarities between your daughter's and your husband's behavior may be helpful if it means that the same strategies will improve both of them. But it's not helpful if it makes you despair, thinking that your daughter is now going to be just as difficult as your husband or feeling that they're united against you. Try to remember to see them individually too.

I'm glad you're able to remember that things will look brighter on another day, but please don't let that be an excuse to do nothing about preventing these bad days from happening. Good luck!
post #7 of 39
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Originally Posted by Irishmommy
If your dd has lost car privileges then that should include being chauffered, unless there is a major reason for it.

I agree with the pp you need some you time.

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post #8 of 39
Thread Starter 
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I recently reread "The Dance of Anger."
I plan on getting it tomorrow, when i go to the mall.
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Then there are the little one-time things that can really get you down
This is what really gets me, the never ending little things that take up lost of time over the course of the day. And for the record, she put her dish in the dishwasher. And we just got back from her errand, and she thanked me profusely. But, her mood is good, for now I have no idea what i will come home from in about 90 minutes after lunch at the school. This I hate. And I find it exhausting. Because although I refuse to take ownership of someones mood, and i fully realize it isn't me they are pissy about, it still effects me.

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But it's not helpful if it makes you despair, thinking that your daughter is now going to be just as difficult as your husband or feeling that they're united against you. Try to remember to see them individually too.
I will and I do most days. Still dealing with it can be incredibly difficult. Why cant they just be frigging happy? Whats so bad? We have so much to be grateful for! WTF! And I do take my own advice, and am successful, most days....but there is that word I keep repeating like a broken record, its exhausting. I am basically a happy person. I except my husbands moodiness because thats who is he is, but why cant he do the same for me?

I hit a button that made me post this before I was done.....so I am 'editing" even though I am really adding to it.

I'M, I plan on having me time tomorrow when I get my hair colored and highlighted.

And I think the fact that what I do is expected and not appreciated is another thing. And most days I do not cook on the days that i work (although occasionally I will crock pot something). I just forgot and had nothing in the house, and to make a long story short, I am making this dish. But really when I think about it, I am making it so my husband doesn't get aggravated that I am not home, that I am caring for him even when I am not there (even though he loves the $$ I make, another rub).

I must go. I am off to the school, I have to do lunchroom.

Another thing I will look into changing, the amount of time I spend there (why? because I feel that if I don't, then I will be like all the "lazy" working moms that so many people dish about! So i go, exhausted even after I have worked till 7:30 in the morning!
post #9 of 39
You know that you really do have a choice here. Don't wait around for someone else to give you the recognition you deserve, give it to your self!

Do something nice for yourself daily and weekly. Sounds like you can afford to do lots ie; day at the spa, yoga class,meditation retreat, take a trip to see an old friend, throw a party for no good reason. Nothing lifts the spirits like random acts of kindness. Pay for another person ie; friend or anonomously pay for someone else to have a spa treatment. I know a few single moms that really need time off...I wish I had the resources to pay for them to do something nice for them selves.

When I start to get down about all my work load, I try to stop myself from slipping into the victim/martyr role and I thank God for the priviledge of being a wife and a mother and my attitude changes and the work seems a lot less daunting. I am working hard to have an attitude of gratitude and it has changed our family dynamic in a positive way.

Be the change you want to see happen. - Ghandi

When you are stressed and negative then your children feed off of that and learn to deal with life stresses in a negative way.

You have the power to change your situation and your family dynamic.

Be good to yourself!
post #10 of 39
You know, I think that it might be time to sit down with a pencil and paper, and list all the chores that need to be done routinely. Then have a family meeting and discuss who does what. It doesn't sound like your situation right now is anything near equitable.

I work out of the home FT, and from time to time do need to remind my husband of that fact, although for the most part, he cheerfully does his fair share. I agree with the poster that said that the more you do, the less everyone else needs to. Sometimes you need to make that point. Early on in our marriage, I had a hard time getting dh to start dinner, even though he was home hours earlier than I. I finally just started getting take-out for one on my way home. I'd walk in the door, sit down at the table and eat my meal. It didn't take dh too long to get the message.
post #11 of 39
Just because your husband works outside the home and your children are not adults does not mean you are the slave.

They can clean up after themselves, and your kids definitely need to take on more chores (if they have not already~I might have missed that). Your husband should have at least a couple of chores he does, so you do not have to be "on" 24 hours a day. He isn't working that long of a day, without rest, why should you?

A family meeting is in order. Also, you should find something you LOVE to do, whatever it is, and do it. For yourself.
post #12 of 39
KalamazooMom, I am also going to get that book. Thank you!

SweetBaby3,
I want you to know that I see what you do. I don't have a lot of posts, but I always notice yours and you are always nice, helpful, thoughtful. It is obvious you are a sincere and kind person. It sounds like you do a LOT for your family, your dinners sound very yummy! It is hard to be a helper and cheerleader for everyone else and get squat back. You need praise and hugs and someone to lighten your load at times too! While I think it's great to pamper yourself, it's still not the same as receiving this kind of thing from your loved ones. It is absolutely fair to expect them to nurture you on a regular basis - no matter who works how many hours... you need nurturance from your clan. I don't know how to get this to happen though.

Just wanted to say too that when I feel this way, it is not about me having too much to do (so me making lists and dividing work would not change how I felt). What I resent is feeling invisible and unimportant, feeling drug down by others pissy moods, and not receiving any nurturance and appreciation from those around me.
post #13 of 39
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Originally Posted by Kincaid
It is hard to be a helper and cheerleader for everyone else and get squat back. You need praise and hugs and someone to lighten your load at times too! While I think it's great to pamper yourself, it's still not the same as receiving this kind of thing from your loved ones. It is absolutely fair to expect them to nurture you on a regular basis - no matter who works how many hours... you need nurturance from your clan. I don't know how to get this to happen though.

Just wanted to say too that when I feel this way, it is not about me having too much to do (so me making lists and dividing work would not change how I felt). What I resent is feeling invisible and unimportant, feeling drug down by others pissy moods, and not receiving any nurturance and appreciation from those around me.
I never looked at it that way before. I swear, its like a light bulb went off in my head! I feel like my emotional bank account is empty or better yet, overdrawn. Maybe I *do* need to be nurtured as much as I nurture others.

Thank you for your kind words
post #14 of 39
An additional option, to go along with the rest of your family taking more responsibility around the house (I mean, my FIVE year old puts his own dishes away), would be to hire help.
post #15 of 39
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Originally Posted by srain
An additional option, to go along with the rest of your family taking more responsibility around the house (I mean, my FIVE year old puts his own dishes away), would be to hire help.
I agree. In the past (not very long ago) I used Merry Maids, and will most likely start up again.
post #16 of 39
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Originally Posted by sweetbaby3
I put this is parenting because I am sure both SAHMs and WOHM/WAHMs can possibly relate.

I am having one of those days where I fell like my only role is as a "convenience factor", meaning all I am good for is a car ride, a meal or whatever. I cleaned the kitchen and my teenage daughter came down to heat pizza. I am sure I will find the plate in the sink. I will do dishes many many times over the course of the day.

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I "have" to take my daughter on an errand as we took her car away because of her behavior and basic irresponsibility. I am not comparing myself, but for dinner tonight I am making chicken and mushrooms, for a meal I wont even eat. And tomorrow? Pan seared baby sirloins with a creamy port wine sauce and roasted asparagus.

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I feel like crying today, in fact i am holding them in as I type. Am I wrong to feel this way? Is it me? I am not a sensitive person, meaning my feelings aren't easily hurt. My husband will tell you i am "low maintenance". Yet, my heart aches, and I am feeling let down by the whole deal.
Wow, you have very valid reasons to feel this way.

If your daughter is old enough to drive, she is old enough to clean up her own dishes. Time for her to start. She's also old enough to be left at home when you run errands. Actually, she is certainly old enough to make dinner on the nights that you will not be there to eat it. I don't know how old your boys are, but if they are over 6, ditto for the clean up, and if they are over 12, ditto for the cooking.

You are the mother, not the maid! Don't let yourself be walked on, you deserve better.
post #17 of 39
As from the book Playful Parenting, you need your cup filled mama!

Your dh is taking you for granted, that I can see, but does he really mean to? Is he a hurtful husband in general, or is he just clueless? If he is a good husband/man? If so, you should be able to tell him what you need (including to be able to WOH without being made to feel like it is not appreciated, or not important anymore now that he makes more money).

I hope you can find a way to discuss this all with him and that he will come through for you and work to make your life better, IMO, that's what spouses should do- work to make each other's lives better.
post #18 of 39
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Originally Posted by choli

You are the mother, not the maid! Don't let yourself be walked on, you deserve better.
I know. What i dont know what is "how to". For instance, at my job, I get a great deal of respect from my co workers and physicians. I have never ever had a problem professionally getting the respect I deserve (now patients are a whole nother deal!). But at home its different and I dont know why.

I worked last night, but only half a shift and came home after 2am. The kitchen was trashed, dishes from dinner still on the table. A dinner I prepared, but did not eat. My daughter worked as well and was gone long before dinner was served. My husband said nothing, as we sat and had coffee at 6am in a messy kitchen, at a table that I had to push dinner plates away to put my coffee cup down. I feel this is very disrespectful. I would never do that to him, or to anyone, and for the life of me, i cant understand what it is that makes my family like this.

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Your dh is taking you for granted, that I can see, but does he really mean to? Is he a hurtful husband in general, or is he just clueless? If he is a good husband/man?
Yes he is taking me for granted, and in this case yes, he is doing it on purpose, as a "punishment" that I left and went top work, he doesnt even realize he does it, but he has been for many many years. No he is not hurtful in general, can be clueless and is for the most part a good man, a real "stand up guy". But no, I cannot talk to him about it, because it gets me nowhere except into a huge fight.

I am exhausted. I didnt sleep and did the school today and now have to run and get kids.

I cant tell you all how much your responses mean to me
post #19 of 39
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Originally Posted by sweetbaby3
Yes he is taking me for granted, and in this case yes, he is doing it on purpose, as a "punishment" that I left and went top work.... But no, I cannot talk to him about it, because it gets me nowhere except into a huge fight.
Ummmm- maybe you should post something in "parents as partners." Your husband is punishing you and you can not communicate with him effectively? That is a problem.
post #20 of 39
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by srain
Your husband is punishing you and you can not communicate with him effectively? That is a problem.
I know, and we have been to counseling about it.
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