Anyone else watching ER right now? - Page 2

[Devaskyla]

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[Lucysmama]

Those sick bastards. Ooops, am I allowed to say that?

I can't think of another word. WTH is WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!?!?!?

I think they just threw the vax thing in there as an extra jab, lump 'em together, as "moms who don't care about their kids and won't let the doctors SAVE THEM."

I am fuming. Case you couldn't tell. How unbelievably wrong.

[lilyka]

I saw it ant hought it was going really well untill they got to the part where hew as dying then it all came together. I thought they were finaly doing a show where the mom was educated and rational in her medical descisions. When they got to the x-ray part it was kinda like - yeah, why bother with an x-ray if it isn't going to change treatment at all? and you kinda got the feeling that Abby was thinking "womans got a point". You don't need an xray to comfiirm pnumonia. the two times I have had children with pnumonia the Dr.s have been able to pin point exactly how full thier lungs were and the xray did nothing but confirm they were right. It makes no sense.

ANyway . . .I thought it was sorta low. I doubt they read the story in mothering. this is making national news.

[Tofu the Geek]

What I disliked was that they made the mother seem off her rocker, like she thought everything was a conspiracy and wasn't basing her decisions on anything but speculation. I mean in real life Maggiore researched and wrote a book about it! She was NOT uneducated about the situation!

In the very least, they didn't bring breastfeeding when you are HIV+ into the picture. Whew.

[MammaKoz]

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I saw it too, OMG I was so infuriated when I saw that and when Sam, the nurse said "we'll have to get a court order" because the mother didn't want her daughter tested for HIV, or her children to receive AZT therapy, well that pissed me off even more.

Talk about subtly instilling fear into people eh?

I actually liked the show ER as pure entertainment, but after last night I'll never watch it again.

I'm also going to write a letter to the networks that aired it in Canada (CTV) and the US (NBC) and also all the advertisers that aired commercials during ER and let them know I am boycotting their products. Anyone want to help?

Also, does anyone know where you can find out what companies aired commercials during the show last night?

[JesiLynne]

Originally Posted by Granola Girl

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I saw it too, OMG I was so infuriated when I saw that and when Sam, the nurse said "we'll have to get a court order" because the mother didn't want her daughter tested for HIV, or her children to receive AZT therapy, well that pissed me off even more.

Talk about subtly instilling fear into people eh?

I actually liked the show ER as pure entertainment, but after last night I'll never watch it again.

I'm also going to write a letter to the networks that aired it in Canada (CTV) and the US (NBC) and also all the advertisers that aired commercials during ER and let them know I am boycotting their products. Anyone want to help?

Also, does anyone know where you can find out what companies aired commercials during the show last night?

YEAH THAT
I WANNA KNOW TOO!!!!!!!

[ollineeba]

if you find that info, let us know!

[Christeeny]

I think it was a horribly cheap shot to do an episode like this.
First of all Eliza Jane hasn't even been gone for a year yet. Second it was found that she died from an allergic reaction to Amoxicillin, not Aids. I watched the show w/ my closed minded hubby. ( the ) Who doesn't know the facts about what happened. And just didn't get it.
I on the other hand, was pissed!
The Mom came off as fair, and objective. They made it seem like she was nut.
The writers of ER should be ashamed of what they wrote.

[Galatea]

I knew it was Maggiore as soon as they showed the xray scene. ER always does "ripped from the headlines" except they are given stories to write by the CDC and other medical organizations.

FYI, several years ago they did a straight-up pro-vaxx episode. Parents brought their son and daugher in (they were about 10 years old) and the one child had measles. They didn't vaxx b/c of autism concerns and had taken them to Africa and the one child died and Dr. Carter went on and on about how you couldn't get autism from vaxxing and they killed their child.

Personally, I hate how the only issue the mainstream media shows about vaxxing is autism. For me, that is just one reason not to vaxx. But whatever.

I have seen every single episode of ER and don't plan to stop watching, at least until Abby and Luka get married and have babies and live happily ever after.

Oh yeah, they did show a woman this season who wanted a family room to bf her child privately. The child was 5 or 6 and they got her a room. They just raised their eyebrows but didn't say there was anything wrong with it. But they didn't say there was anything right with it, either.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Originally Posted by bobandjess99

just came here to write about this.....what do they do, have trolls here at MDC...????

In answer to this question. ER work hand in hand with pharmaceutical companies. Yes, they troll here, but mainly in vaccination forum, and Health and Healing. But they didn't need to troll here to get that story-line.

[cobluegirl]

grrrrr.....just makes me boil.

[JesiLynne]

Originally Posted by Galatea

I knew it was Maggiore as soon as they showed the xray scene. ER always does "ripped from the headlines" except they are given stories to write by the CDC and other medical organizations.

FYI, several years ago they did a straight-up pro-vaxx episode. Parents brought their son and daugher in (they were about 10 years old) and the one child had measles. They didn't vaxx b/c of autism concerns and had taken them to Africa and the one child died and Dr. Carter went on and on about how you couldn't get autism from vaxxing and they killed their child.

Personally, I hate how the only issue the mainstream media shows about vaxxing is autism. For me, that is just one reason not to vaxx. But whatever.

I have seen every single episode of ER and don't plan to stop watching, at least until Abby and Luka get married and have babies and live happily ever after.

Oh yeah, they did show a woman this season who wanted a family room to bf her child privately. The child was 5 or 6 and they got her a room. They just raised their eyebrows but didn't say there was anything wrong with it. But they didn't say there was anything right with it, either.

yeah I saw that one too
it made me mad even years ago before I had kid b/c my mom didnt vax us and i already understood the dangers of vax

[Smithie]

My personal fave this year was the young gestational surrogate whose baby presented as a footling breech. Did anybody else catch that one?

The woman was adamant about having a natural childbirth, because "I want to give birth to my own children vaginally." She was completely uninformed about the risks of a footling delivery, didn't even know that her full-term baby was breech, and refused the c-section as the sobbing biomom begged her not to kill her baby.

The baby was born profoundly brain-damaged, of course, and both the parents and the surrogate deserted him in the hospital.

Have you EVER heard of a gestational surrogate who behaved like that, or who was that uninformed about what waws going on with the baby? I never have. So insulting.

[JesseMomme]

Originally Posted by JesiLynne

I watched and have already emailed Peggy O'mara about it

Has anyone heard from Peggy about this yet?

My personal fave this year was the young gestational surrogate whose baby presented as a footling breech. Did anybody else catch that one?

Yeah - there were about 5 threads just about that episode

The woman was adamant about having a natural childbirth, because "I want to give birth to my own children vaginally." She was completely uninformed about the risks of a footling delivery, didn't even know that her full-term baby was breech, and refused the c-section as the sobbing biomom begged her not to kill her baby

She was probably uninformed about footling delivery in a hosp. That's dangerous, not breech by itself. They did a good job making her look crunchy=idiot, that's for sure. She had also mentioned she wanted homebirths for her own children (and had already had a homebirth before?)

Really sad, but I just remembered it wasn't the first abandoned baby ER has seen....wasn't it last year or the year before with the Chinese couple with the twins in the NICU - one had to be on ECMO but the other was healthy, and the parents left (to go back to China?) the one sick twin in there and took the healthy one with them.

[Smithie]

I'm not surprised there were a bunch of threads about the GS episode. It certainly made MY head want to explode, and I'm not even a surrogate or considering surrogacy.

[Devaskyla]

The baby was born profoundly brain-damaged, of course, and both the parents and the surrogate deserted him in the hospital.

I really dislike the "of course" assumption of your post. Footling breech does not equal dead or damaged baby. I know a few older adults, including my fil, who were born footling breech. Footling breech+imcompetant care=high chance of dead or damaged, though.

I think, even if they hadn't made the mother look like a crackpot, doing a show about the situation before all the facts are known and before a reasonable time had passed, was in extremely poor taste.

[Tanibani]

I can't stand ER (or any dramatization/soap opera type shows - Lost is a new one)... so I never watch it.

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[Smithie]

I meant "of course" the pr-intervention ER plot would include a damaged baby, not "of course" a footling breech baby would be damaged. Sorry I was unclear.

[Awaken]

I'd love to hear Peggy O'Mara'a response to this!

Which issue was the Maggoire story in? Recently or a while ago? I don't remember seeing it.

I thought the mom on the show was very rational sounding when she initially explained her vax choices. Totally unbelieveable and outlandish how Clemente went crazy on her for refusing AZT!

[cobluegirl]

it was 2004 or 2003