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post #21 of 31
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Thank you for the kind words

I spoke with the Vice Principal today with my son beside me. The part time teacher(his primary teacher is getting her PHD so she has classes once a week) was the one that told my son about Santa and the Vice feels that she just didn't remember my sons upbringing. I was treated kindly and she is going to insure my son has a talking to from the part time teacher apoligizing and explianing why she said it. I am feeling good on the matter, and my son hasn't spoken about Santa coming again since the talk. Thank you for your kind words it is nice to know I am not the only one.
post #22 of 31
Diane~Alena, I would have been really angry about the whole thing. I think you made the right choice in going to the Vice Principal. The school itself is doing all kinds of things that are inappropriate. This is a public school, no?
post #23 of 31
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nonconformnmom

I agree with what you are saying I wish that the school showed it as a belief and not as a fact. I wouldn't want any child to have a teacher pushing God down a childs throat either. I feel as parents we should teach our children our own beliefs and to respect others and theirs. I don't think Teachers have the right to say santa isn't real or is that is up to parents, same as the god issue. I have taught my children to say "We believe" instead of "this is the only way it is". I wish thoose in power would do the same. I even told that to the Vice today, I told her one way of dealing with the situation could have been to take him out of earshot and say "some kids believe santa is real, and some don't it is ok to believe either."

I thank you for replying in a kind way it means alot to me.
post #24 of 31
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Mamma Mia

It is a Public school. Shocking isn't it! Our head of PAC (Parents Advisory Council) is Born Again Christian and she plays a big role in the choices the school makes. It is hard because we are a city school and we have alot of different cultures I wish we could explore them all not just one. I try to just be quiet and not attend the breakfasts with Santa and Easter egg hunts but it is so hard when things like this happen.
post #25 of 31
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I think I came across badly with my To us it is a lie coment. I was saying it to show how upsetting it is to Us. I am sorry if I insulted anyone who does practice santa, it wasn't meant to insult but rather to show our feelings and how much it bothered us.
post #26 of 31
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Originally Posted by Diane~Alena
It is a Public school. Shocking isn't it! Our head of PAC (Parents Advisory Council) is Born Again Christian and she plays a big role in the choices the school makes. It is hard because we are a city school and we have alot of different cultures I wish we could explore them all not just one. I try to just be quiet and not attend the breakfasts with Santa and Easter egg hunts but it is so hard when things like this happen.
It sounds like they are violating the law. Is the school board supportive of this? Are there any other parents who are concerned? It's an uphill battle but the school is WAY out of line.
post #27 of 31
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Mamamia

You rock for saying that it was just what I needed to hear. I have been in contact with the school board since the prayer issue and we are taking baby steps, the hard thing is trying not to be confrontational about it. I thank you though it is a hard fight and I most days feel like my kids don't belong there but their friends are there and I can't even think about uprooting them.
post #28 of 31
Pulling your kids out will abandon the school and disrupt their lives. Not to mention that they might not want to leave. Of course, if they were to ask to leave it would be different.

At any rate, I'm sure you aren't the only one who is upset with the system. Have any of your kids' friends' parents ever said anything to you? Even a small group of parents challenging the system is so much stronger than one person going it alone. I hate to think of you feeling like the complainer and being silenced by that. If you have one or two (hopefully more!) other parents fighting with you, when you're intimidated they will back you up. Of course, I will too, but you know how IRL support can be so important.

You can find out your school board's system for handling parent complaints and getting items on the agenda at meetings. Often you will have to write a letter asking to have a topic put on the agenda at the meeting. In my former school board, once a letter was sent, they could not leave it out of the agenda. This was actually a way to silence people who simply showed up to address their concerns. Once at the school board meeting, you should be able to speak directly to the board. It's nice to have other parents and community members there to address the same issue with the board.

If you feel like you're ramming your head against a brick wall, you can always PM me for support and ideas- and if you're feeling really passionate about it, contact the ACLU. Kids have the constitutional right not to be inundated with other people's religious beliefs at school. Kids can share religion amongst themselves, but teachers and administration are not legally allowed to, except in certain cases, like optional religious clubs that take place during lunch.

I hope this helps. I have done a lot of activism with my former school board and even though I've moved away I really would like to go back and continue to fight against their discrimination. I'm here for support and ideas and if you need any practical information. Good luck.
post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by Diane~Alena
Joline
I thank you. Our school is from 1950 I swear.

It took me a whole year to put a stop to the prayer class every morning. We had one room filled with cross's and doves that was used to pray. A notice was going home each week about prayer class I felt is was not appropriate at all for a comunity school so I reported it to the school board. I am a little afraid that I will look like the complainer, always whining about what my school is doing now. I wish we had a truley public school that focused on teaching my children school topics not biased singleminded religious practices.
Class prayer??? Diane, where on earth do you live? I feel for yout that you have to go through this. They bring Santa in? I definately think if Al Gore can't talk about Mother Earth in School then Santa should be out of the question
http://www.j21c.org/avondale.htm
post #30 of 31
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Originally Posted by Mamma Mia
It sounds like they are violating the law. Is the school board supportive of this? Are there any other parents who are concerned? It's an uphill battle but the school is WAY out of line.
Diana - I am glad you resolved this to your satisfaction.

They must be violating the law. If you are in a city with many cultures, doubtless they are offending many. There must be more parents, of all cultures who are just waiting for someone to take the bull by the horns and ask for religion to be removed from the schools. Every school district I've worked in in WA state mandates that there be no religion in school. They even send out reminders at holiday season reminding us what not to mention:

halloween is fall harvest and has no witches, goblins, etc.
xmas is winter holiday season and has no religious symbology (even Santa)
spring is just spring with no easter or bunnies allowed

I bet if you started a group somehow parents would come out in droves.
post #31 of 31
Hey I just want to support you for dealing with the issue - especially with your son right there beside you! That's so awesome! That's something a lot of kids miss out on. I credit my ability to not back down on issues I believe in to my dad and the time he walked all of us out of a restaurant because they served coors (union issue) - after talking to the manager and then the owner of the place. I know it's hard to feel like the "complainer" but it's a gift your son will need I'm sorry to say!

~Eve
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