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post #141 of 587
lilyka -- Just wanted to quickly say thanks for the words of wisdom earlier. I did read, but havn't had time to post. Also, I've read your other posts & have some thoughts, but need to put dd down for her nap now. I'll be back later this evening to respond in more detail.

AngelBee -- Congrats on your anniversary!

Holly
post #142 of 587
Hi mamas subbing here
post #143 of 587
I want to add that since I have been exploring submission (I say exploring because I can't really say I am practicing it- more like I am working at practicing it), my dh has risen to the occassion and behaved more like a godly man. The less I submit, the less Christ-like he treats me. It isn't a conscious decision on his part. I doubt he even knows it happens. I don't know why I don't just give it all up and submit full time, but I wasn't raised in a submissive home and it is hard for me to break patterns I learned growing up. All I know is that when I work at submission, it is like his defenses against me fall and he starts honoring and respecting me more. Make sense?
post #144 of 587
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All I know is that when I work at submission, it is like his defenses against me fall and he starts honoring and respecting me more. Make sense?
Yep, It works that way for me too. Cool huh?
post #145 of 587

Exactly

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Originally Posted by laralou
I want to add that since I have been exploring submission (I say exploring because I can't really say I am practicing it- more like I am working at practicing it), my dh has risen to the occassion and behaved more like a godly man. The less I submit, the less Christ-like he treats me. It isn't a conscious decision on his part. I doubt he even knows it happens. I don't know why I don't just give it all up and submit full time, but I wasn't raised in a submissive home and it is hard for me to break patterns I learned growing up. All I know is that when I work at submission, it is like his defenses against me fall and he starts honoring and respecting me more. Make sense?
Yes, it does. I know that if my DH is responding in a matter of speech I may or may not react in the proper manner. If I don't get what he means things could get nasty. I have a tendency to sometimes react inappropriately. He as I have said before will make an observation that to me seems as though it is an accusation. I proceed to fly off the handle, if I were to control it and answer his question or respond to his comment in a more peaceful manner things would go much smoother. In the other direction, if he is acting more like Christ toward the church submission is a much easier task.
post #146 of 587

Except for one thing...........

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Originally Posted by sophmama
But you see that doesn't fit me at all. I am very even keeled and basically ALWAYS say exactly what I mean. I am very straightforward in my marriage and always have been. I get along with men very well and worked for years in a heavily male dominated field that I did very well in because I get along so well with the opposite gender. They would often tell me I was "one of the guys" based on my even keeled personality. I am very feminine, cute, sexy, and very much a woman, but I don't fit your description of 'women in general' and in our marriage this would never apply. I don't think stereotypes of women support your argument for submission very well.
Generalizations are just that, General. In many cases there are certain exceptions. Congratulations to you for not having to deal with this issue. (and I seriously mean that). We are not trying to "support" an arguement for submission.

As has been stated in previous posts submission means.....Willful alignment...Here's and arguement for submission. Have you ever driven a car that has a bad wheel alignment. It jerks and wobbles all over the place. If the wheels are in alignment it runs smoothly. Thats an "arguement" for submission.
post #147 of 587
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Originally Posted by joyfulhands
(((Angelbee)))

Happy anniversary!
Happy Anniversary to you too!
post #148 of 587
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Originally Posted by laralou
I want to add that since I have been exploring submission (I say exploring because I can't really say I am practicing it- more like I am working at practicing it), my dh has risen to the occassion and behaved more like a godly man. The less I submit, the less Christ-like he treats me. It isn't a conscious decision on his part. I doubt he even knows it happens. I don't know why I don't just give it all up and submit full time, but I wasn't raised in a submissive home and it is hard for me to break patterns I learned growing up. All I know is that when I work at submission, it is like his defenses against me fall and he starts honoring and respecting me more. Make sense?
Makes PERFECT sense!
post #149 of 587
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Originally Posted by whimsy
Yep, It works that way for me too. Cool huh?
This is exactly how it works for me too. That is what drew me to wife submission.

My mom ran the house when I was growing up. She was a SAHM and dad worked but she called ALL of the shots.

She never felt loved. He never felt respected. When I was pregnant with ds1, they started the process for a divorce.
post #150 of 587
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Originally Posted by afishwithabike
In the other direction, if he is acting more like Christ toward the church submission is a much easier task.
Absolutely. I think this is one area people get so angry with submissive wives. We focus on being submissive instead of the man being Godly. My problem is I only control me. Not dh. So while I can't make him more Godly, I can make myself more submissive. That is why it helps to realize that my submitting to God's will for me helps dh to submit to God's will for him.
post #151 of 587
I love you all!

Lilyka....keep talkin! I love reading your posts
post #152 of 587
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Originally Posted by AngelBee
Lilyka....keep talkin! I love reading your posts
No kidding!
post #153 of 587
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Originally Posted by laralou
Absolutely. I think this is one area people get so angry with submissive wives. We focus on being submissive instead of the man being Godly. My problem is I only control me. Not dh. So while I can't make him more Godly, I can make myself more submissive. That is why it helps to realize that my submitting to God's will for me helps dh to submit to God's will for him.
ABSOLUTELY!!!

I don't honestly understand why this is so difficult to understand.....
post #154 of 587
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I want to add that since I have been exploring submission (I say exploring because I can't really say I am practicing it- more like I am working at practicing it), my dh has risen to the occassion and behaved more like a godly man. The less I submit, the less Christ-like he treats me. It isn't a conscious decision on his part. I doubt he even knows it happens. I don't know why I don't just give it all up and submit full time, but I wasn't raised in a submissive home and it is hard for me to break patterns I learned growing up. All I know is that when I work at submission, it is like his defenses against me fall and he starts honoring and respecting me more. Make sense?
That is how it is at our house. In reality, it is more along the lines when I treat him with respect and treat him as someone who is capable of leading our home.
post #155 of 587
I too am starting to EXPLORE submission so to speak. i haven't read this whole thread, but can you all tell me some of the thing syou do.... thanks
post #156 of 587
It is so nice to be here with you and I'm looking forward to reading the posts.
post #157 of 587
I know how you feel.
post #158 of 587
AngelBee,
I want to personally thank you for sticking up for me,I truly appreciate it!
Love,
Kim
post #159 of 587
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Originally Posted by oldermamato5
AngelBee,
I want to personally thank you for sticking up for me,I truly appreciate it!
Love,
Kim
Kim...no problem! I honestly know what you meant.
post #160 of 587
I was reading in some of those other posts and it doesn't seem worth the effort.

We can't explain it in a way they could understand and if they understood, we wouldn't have to explain it.

I can trust my DH with my whole self, and it's very comforting.
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