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post #421 of 587
We just let God do the deciding. We figure that since he alone knows the future, he's the best one t decide whether another blessing-baby is good for us or not.

If my dh were to say "No more" (May it *never* be!) I would submit to his wishes but ask him to take care of the contraception. I believe I would be in sin to prevent babies, so if he wanted no more children, he'd be responsible for making that happen.
post #422 of 587
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Originally Posted by cappuccinosmom
We just let God do the deciding. We figure that since he alone knows the future, he's the best one t decide whether another blessing-baby is good for us or not.

If my dh were to say "No more" (May it *never* be!) I would submit to his wishes but ask him to take care of the contraception. I believe I would be in sin to prevent babies, so if he wanted no more children, he'd be responsible for making that happen.
We too are quiverful (leave it up to God)

If Rich honestly decided he wanted no more, I suppose it would be similar....we would use condoms without spermicide and it would be his responsibility to do so, as I would feel like I was sinning as well.

Unless it was a case of my life being at risk. Then I would do something surgical and I do not believe that is a sin anymore then cutting cancer out of a body. It becomes a life and death situation at that point, not an issue of fertility.
post #423 of 587
Does that include things like NFP? Or do you mean that you don't do that either? Just curious.
post #424 of 587
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Originally Posted by clynnr
Does that include things like NFP? Or do you mean that you don't do that either? Just curious.
We do not do that either.

I do keep track of my cycles and am aware of my fertility so that I can be aware of my health and date pregnancies if necessary.

But we make love whenever the mood stikes us.....whether I am fertile or not. We do not avoid. We do not try. We prayerfully leave it up to God.
post #425 of 587
Congrats AngelBee How refreshing to read these quiverful posts!
post #426 of 587
afishwithabike,it is hard,IMO,to figure it out. I think I know what you are saying. I personally believe God will bless you with as many children as He desires you to have,whether through adoption or biological,if you allow Him to.
Many years ago,right after a miscarriage,I had my tubes tied. It was a decision I regretted. But.........because of that tubal we went on to become foster parents and adopted two precious children through the state. I guess what I'm saying is God can redeem anything He desires to.
If you do not want anymore children I do not think it is sinful. That is your decision based on many factors I'm sure. Can you elaborate more on what your trying to say?
post #427 of 587
It is funny that you mention adoption. Almost like God knows what we were thinking. We actually have been talking about adoption for a while. I just don't want to "miss God" on something because of a selfish desire. I can't stand when people make selfish decisions and then brag about them. I have heard too many tales of "I want to be thin" or I want to drink". It breaks my heart. Thank you all for understanding and answering my questions.
post #428 of 587
Do you mean adoption is a selfish desire? Or not wanting anymore bio children a selfish desire? I'm just trying to clearly understand what you are saying.
post #429 of 587
There is teaching by Bill Gothard, who is respected in some QF circles, that adoption isn't Biblical.

I don't know how much to get into this but these people travel in the same circles. Don't interperate what I'm saying is anyone *here* would believe this way, but they may have heard or have been mildly influenced by this teaching.

db
post #430 of 587
I haven't read anything like that DB,but I'm not a Bill Gothard fan anyway. How weird that a christian would think adoption isn't Biblical. Go figure.
post #431 of 587
Our relationship with the Father is analagous (sp) to an adopted child, the Bible makes these references, that He has *chosen* us to be adopted into His family.

Very strange, indeed, that a Christian should diss adoption.

DB
post #432 of 587
Exactly.
post #433 of 587
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Originally Posted by oldermamato5
Congrats AngelBee How refreshing to read these quiverful posts!
Thank you oldermamato5
post #434 of 587
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Originally Posted by oldermamato5
I haven't read anything like that DB,but I'm not a Bill Gothard fan anyway. How weird that a christian would think adoption isn't Biblical. Go figure.
Yeah. :

Joseph "adopted" Jesus.

I may skip reading Gothard. DB, thanks for the heads up.
post #435 of 587
I forgot to say Congratulations, AngelBee!!!!!!


Bill Gothard is strange. I actually never heard of him, in spite of the very conservative circles I travel in, until I saw him mentioned in a similar context to this discussion. How can adoption be unBiblical???
post #436 of 587
We have some children in church adopted into their families.

I also have a best friend growing up who couldn't ever conceive.

She adopted two children from china. I gave her my sling for the journey

Her children are precious.

DB
post #437 of 587
Not saying adoption is selfish. I am saying some of the people I know have had or not had bio DC for selfish motives. I would LOVE to adopt. I have known a few people who were adopted and it has touched me deeply at how greatful they are to their adoptive parents for being kind and opening their homes. That does not mean I apreciate my two bio DC any less I just feel that there are a lot of DC out there who need families, Need to feel connected, NEED to feel loved.
post #438 of 587
Now I do understand where your coming from.
post #439 of 587
My firstborn has a very low pain threshold and is not particularly thrilled at the prospect of having a baby (the physical elements.)

She and her dh are likely going to adopt children. Likely, they are going to be all the colors in the rainbow which gives me a thrill to think about looking forward to my grandchildren. Likely in a few years because she's still in school Um... We're both Sophomores She's going to be a teacher so her schedule will match her children's schedules.

Now, you know what is said of man's plans and G-d's sense of humor, so we really don't know the future.

db
post #440 of 587
I know what you mean Debra. I am supposed to be a psychologist with a PhD. I often FEEL like a psychologist but definitely don't have the PhD. (HeeHee)
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