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spinning children by their arms

post #1 of 49
Thread Starter 
ok so my mom saw a picture of my sisters boyfriend swinging my daughter around and around. my mom (as we knew she would be) was upset. but i was just wondering how many of you swing your kids around or know an adult who swings your child around. and has the child's arm ever been dislocated or has the adult lost grip of the child sending the child flying? my mom insists this will happen and i just think that well possible is a little far fetched. opinions?

courtney

ps i will post the picture later
post #2 of 49
From http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/10123-2.asp

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Nursemaid elbow occurs after a sudden pulling force is applied to the extended upper arm of the child while the arm is slightly twisted.

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* Some examples of typical situations that can produce the mechanism of force required to cause this injury are these

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# Swinging the child while holding the child by the hands
post #3 of 49
I have heard of it happening. Seems like last year or so there was a mamma who had it happen to their dc.

I do it as does dh to all 3 of our children. No, our children have never gotten loose of our gripe nor has the childs arm been dislocated. They love it.

Accidents happen. You just never know when.
post #4 of 49
Yes - on the lost grip part.

I can remember spinning a young cousin of mine arond and totally losing my grip on him and watching him going flying. Luckily he had a soft landing, and other than both being scared silly, nobody was hurt (we were in a grassy area, so fairly soft landing).
post #5 of 49
When I was a teenager I spun my baby brother (1-2ish) around like that and pulled his arm out of socket. I STILL feel bad about it!!!
post #6 of 49
We do not swing our Dd by the arms. I wish I had mentioned this fact to a friend of mine who's Dh used to pick their toddlers up by the arms to swing them over the safety gate. They must have done that dozens, maybe even hundreds of times before it pulled the one boy's elbow out of socket, which was extremely painful and now that elbow pulls out of socket more easily than it should, like when you're just holding hands to cross the street and he pulls away.

The pedi said that the swinging likely slowly lengthened the connecting tendons (or ligaments?) until now he has this chronic problem that took months to show up.

Anyway, my mom never allowed us to swing because the same thing had happened to her sibling's shoulder.
post #7 of 49
Thread Starter 
oh man my mom is always right!!!

i remember being swung around and it was always so fun and my dd can't get enough of it
post #8 of 49
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Originally Posted by jewelysmommy
oh man my mom is always right!!!

i remember being swung around and it was always so fun and my dd can't get enough of it
You can still hold them under the arms and swing around holding the armpits, but my dad always did this in a place where it wouldn't be a tragedy if we slipped, not that that ever happened.
post #9 of 49
nak...

i usually grab ds under his armpits when he wants to swing
post #10 of 49
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Originally Posted by RubyWild
You can still hold them under the arms and swing around holding the armpits, but my dad always did this in a place where it wouldn't be a tragedy if we slipped, not that that ever happened.
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My DS loves to spin around like that. He also loves to sit on my lap and spin around in my computer chair. Sometimes he'll even come up and start spinning me around when I'm trying to do something here!
post #11 of 49
I think it's totally fine to swing kids by their arms. I used to do it all the time with my cousins... they loved it. I don't like to be so overly paranoid about everything that "might possibly" hurt my DDs. I think I read in the Continuum Concept book, that mothers in all those "3rd world" countries regularly swing their babies by their arms... to pick them up, usually. That's why we sling our babies, right? Because it's so natural, and simple and easy.
post #12 of 49
We're swingers.
post #13 of 49
my daugher got nursemaids elbow once when i was holding her hand and she tried to jerk away from me. I read once that it's most common in children under the age of 4.

we dont swing her by her arms like others said we try to grab her under her armpits since that happened, it was VERY scary. Her arm was completely limp and she couldn't move it and she was crying bloody murder. I thought it was broken

but we do toss her in the air and flip her over and stuff, she loves it and we're always careful
post #14 of 49
Hi, chersolly.
post #15 of 49
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Originally Posted by FreeThinkinMama
my daugher got nursemaids elbow once when i was holding her hand and she tried to jerk away from me. I read once that it's most common in children under the age of 4.
Yep my ds did this. He has had it happen a couple times. We never swing by the arms, but do under the armpits!
post #16 of 49
My BIL did this to one of DH's cousins and dislocated her arm. I admit that I do this with my son because he loves it so much. I have tried to do the under the armpit thing and he says "no mommy, by the hands!"
post #17 of 49
On the letting go- We used to do this deliberately to each other. However, we were kids spinning kids so I doubt we were spinning with anywhere near the same force. Didn't anyone else ever play swinging statues? We were never hurt.
post #18 of 49
We don't swing our children by the arms either. Just a few weeks ago, my dd's elbow became dislocated when my ds pulled her (very gently--I was watching) by the arm. It took hardly any force and she was in agony.
post #19 of 49
Until a baby is old enough to hold on to something and lift their own feet up (hold themselves up on their own). Their shoulders are not developed properly enough to handle such things. I see people helping their babies learn to walk by holding just their hands all of the time. Or picking kids up by their arms. The shoulders aren't ready for that sort of thing and it can be very damaging. Holding on to them under their armpits is perfectly fine, and spinning motions are good for the development of their eqilibrium.
post #20 of 49
DH's mother hurt him this way, when he was young. It's one of those stories that she always guiltily tells. She was swinging him by his arms, and pulled one out of the socket. When she took him to the hospital, they seperated mother and child, and asked baby DH some questions alone. "Did your mother hurt you?" *sniff sniff sob* "Yesssss." Yeah, it wasn't good. She was a wreck, lol. She thought they were going to haul her away. But eventually they beleived her version of the story, and she never played that game with him again.

When DD wants to spin, I always pick her up under the armpits. I just don't want to risk hurting her.
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