A "cruel joke" !

[Gitti]

This afternoon my dd had a surprise visit from an old gf whom she had not seen in several years. This woman had a 6 week old baby girl.

Little by little dd introduced the "V" issue into the conversation. The woman seemed interested at first but a little dense. Anyway her main worry was that her dd would get POLIO if she's not vaccinated. DD didn't seem to make a dent so I butted in with a very simple explanation:

"There was this pesticide that they used to spray everywhere (DDT) and from that spray many little children as well as animals got a paralysis. Then they developed a vaccine that was supposed to prevent that paralysis. They called it the POLIO vaccine because after they had developed it they called the paralysis POLIO.

After they had manufactured the vaccine they told parents that if they inject their kids with this vaccine their kids will not get POLIO. At the same time they outlawed the spray (DDT) and of course there was very little polio after that. So they said, 'see, the vaccine works'."

I think I lost her with my explanation BUT (unfortunately) my 8 y. old grandson who was playing in the other room came to the table and said,

"I can't believe it. That's what happened?
That is nothing but a cruel joke."

[guestmama9911]

Fascinating. I had never heard that. What is your source? I would like to learn more.

[Gitti]

Oh, it didn't happen just like that, it was just a very basic way to explain about the use of DDT but here is a
thread you may want to peruse.

[CrazyRED]

Out of the mouths of babes!

[Pariah]

What a smart kid!

[Jen123]

Very smart child !

My kids have often said things like that...
We had just finished discussing why we don't have medical insurance , only accidental coverage.

"SO vaccines make us sick so we have to go to the doctor , then they give us medicine that causes problems so we get sick again , so we have to go to the doctor who gives us medicine that causes problems so we get sick again.......no wonder insurance costs so much."

[Gitti]

Sounds like we are getting our kids to at least think for themselves.

I have promised my grandson that by the time he is 18 he will know exactly what I have uncovered in my quest for the truth. I guess that's why he keeps listening to everything I discuss with his mom or other family members.

Kids are like sponges anyway, by the time he is 18 he'll know what is going on, I am sure.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Gitti, in my opinion, your explanation may be simple way to explain DDT, but its a totally inaccurate, unsatisfactory and unscientific way to explain polio... Jim West may think its suitable, but I don't, and it will never cut any ice with people who really know their polio literature...

JMO

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara

Gitti, in my opinion, your explanation may be simple way to explain DDT, but its a totally inaccurate, unsatisfactory and unscientific way to explain polio... Jim West may think its suitable, but I don't, and it will never cut any ice with people who really know their polio literature...

JMO

I couldn't agree more. It was more than simplistic. It made no dent in the mother with the new baby anyway. I believe nothing would have done that.

Anyone who really knows about polio doesn't need any explanation.
although if I had a chance I might just show them this graph.

To be truthful I was really surprised when my grandson came up with the term "a cruel joke" because often times that's how I view the whole vaccine issue yet I had never used it out loud.

[guestmama9911]

This is very fascinating. I am a recent student of vaccinations so this is all new to me.