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post #41 of 72
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I don't think it's because the LMCs left Blenheim! They were never there in the first place

TBH I think you'd be OK anywhere in NZ WRT work. But is the figure of $20 000 for a domino midwife with a full caseload in Auckland accurate? That's very low IMO.

$20 000 NZD? No way Jose!

This is from http://www.careers.govt.nz/default.a...103&id1=J35172

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Midwife - Pay and job outlook
Tapuhi a-Whare
Pay
Salaries vary, but midwives usually earn between $30,000 and $70,000 per year depending on the number of hours they work and clients they see.
post #43 of 72
keeping an eye on this thread, as we're considering a move to wellington (no choice about where we'd be, that's where the job is).

what areas around wellington (miramar is where the job would be located, and we'd love to not have a major commute for dh) are the least cityish? Is that peninsula (where miramar is) livable? right now we're in BC, on an island, so cost of living here is insane, and my dh's commute to the city is insane, so we're not as easily scared by cost and commute as others might be... we're renters (though I've been pushing for living in an RV while we're there, so we can take off to explore every weekend) and would love to find somewhere fairly close to miramar that is still a little green, with access to shops, etc.

any suggestions? we'd probably be there for 1-3 years...unless we just can't leave!
post #44 of 72
Hi Tiffani,

I live in Wellington. Anywhere out of the central city is green. Miramar is very close to the airport (Great if you have children who like to watch!). And there are corner shops everywhere, even in villa areas (not much else around anyway!). Miramar has shops, as do most of the suburbs, it is also about 10 min by car to the centre of the city. We live in Ngaio, 10 min north of the centre of the city. Ngaio is in a valley up in the hills, very green, you'd think you're much further away from the city!

The peninsula is certainly livable. Miramar itself is a bit depressing(run down?), in my opinion, but that's only me. But it is surrounded by green hills. Property along the coast, however, is extremely expensive!
post #45 of 72
hey thanks!

so... how long would you think it might take to commute to miramar from ngaio? It looks so far away on the map, but I have no idea, really, what I'm looking at... I've been checking out trade me just for fun, and trying to get a sense of what areas are too far away from miramar. I'd love for dh's commute to be less than 30 minutes.

and would you say it's totally irrational to want to live in an RV there, so we can take off most weekends for new territory? I'm wondering about finding somewhere to station ourselves near wellington... anyone know anything about RV travel in NZ?

thanks again!
post #46 of 72
Commuting times to the peninsula depends entirely on traffic. 20-30 min is certainly possible from Ngaio to Miramar, but probably not in rush hour traffic. Ngaio is really good for the city, though, because we have the train, which is usually on time. Look at Google Earth, their photographic maps of Wellington are great! You get a really good feel for greenery, hills, housing areas and distances.

Living in a van or something is not impossible (a friend of ours did a few years back), however, you are actually not allowed to park (as in camping or campervan or something) overnight within Wellington city, so unless you could get someone to let you put up your campervan on their property, you might get in trouble with the police! Properties in the city are usually small, though, and a lot of them don't have off - street parking. There are no trailer parks that I know of in this country, and mobile homes are unheard of. Most people rent a campervan to travel around, there are a lot of companies for this!

Avoid Karori - lovely and green, but only one way out, and total gridlock in rush hour.

The Miramar area is more likely to get flooded when it rains, unless you are in the hills (Ngaio and similar areas are much higher up, so not really a problem).

You might like to have a look at suburbs around the south coast, south-west of Miramar. Island Bay for example is nice (and expensive!) but very windy and salt swept (garden impossible, and will be very cold!). Just slightly further inland are a number of suburbs that might be interesting. Anything south of Newtown is "less city". Otherwise the coastal areas around the peninsula, they are expensive here, but might not be in your opinion, it depends on your income as well.

Check out rental prices online, a place for rent may be called a house or a flat. Be prepared that any rental property will be cold. Insulation is a bit of a new thing here, very unusual in rental properties. Single glazing. Central heating is rare in rental properties, buy your own portable heater, and/or look for a place with a fireplace. Electricity is quite expensive. look for a place that isn't south facing, as it would be freezing cold!

Anyway, New Zealand is amazing, and people are so friendly, I love that about this place! I came here from Sweden 6 years ago, to stay six months, decided to stay another year because I loved it so much, then I met a Kiwi...
post #47 of 72
thanks for all the info aislyncarys! I read it a while ago, but haven't had a chance to thank you!

I'll keep you all posted if we have any NZ specific news!
post #48 of 72
Tiffani

About living in Wellington. I live In Strathmore - it is next to Miramar. The peninsula has pretty much most things you need - no reason to go to the city. I go most days though to take my son to kindergarten, there isn't all that much traffic compared with a canadian city. I'd recommend taking a drive around the city when you arrive to see which areas you like. We are renting a place with crappy insulation but the most incredible view. When you look at places make sure to check out if there is a heat source and how much sun it might get. We were quite surprised when we moved to New Zealand, our first night in this house it was pretty cold - we looked around for where to turn on the heat and found there was no heat. We had to all sleep in bed with all the blankets the first night. All the best for your move.

Kelly
post #49 of 72
Hi Tiffani

Just wanted to pipe in with motorhome info. It's actually a growing industry in New Zealand. My husband's company supplies entertainment equipment (lcd tv's, stereos, sat tv antennas etc) to most of the major motorhome manufacturers here. It's entirely possible to live the motorhome lifestyle if you felt that way inclined. The high-end models can be rather pricey but you can get some good deals on second hand.

My hubbie is asleep at the moment but I'll ask him where Wellington's nearest camping ground is that would host long term motorhome tenancy and get back to you on that.

One thing to consider is that the ferry crossing to the South Island with a motorhome would be quite expensive.

Here's the link to the New Zealand Motorcarvan Association website. www.nzmca.org.nz If you click "View latest advertisements" on the left hand menu you can open a pdf with some house buses and campervans to give you an idea of pricing. There's at least one there for sale at the moment which is set up for permanent living.
post #50 of 72
Just saw this thread, don't know if you're still interested. I live in Wellington, and if you're looking for somewhere cheap to live, I know people who live in Ngaio and I wouldn't say that it was that cheap, but maybe my friends live in an expensive part of Ngaio. Also for the record, I've never heard of Miramar flooding!!!! However, nowhere is really a big commute (unless you live in the Hutt Valley) especially if you're going in the opposite direction to the rest of the traffic, which you would be if you work in Miramar. Miramar is also home to Camperdown Studios (Lord of the Rings, King Kong) so is going up in real estate value.
Can I also suggest that if you do come here you join Playcentre http://www.playcentre.org.nz/ - a parent-run playgroup for pre-schoolers and a good place to meet other mothers and make friends.
Best of Luck!
post #51 of 72
Hey all! just found this thread again, while tracking down someone who I think works with my dh (you know who you are! ) and wanted to thank you guys for all the helpful advice!! We ended up in Strathmore Park, which is lovely and close to work, and close to the beach, and close enough to everything else, and we really like it!! Holy expensive rent though, jeez!!!

so glad summer is coming!
post #52 of 72
while i hate to resurrect a thread, i would be very interested to hear about why people moved, how it felt to make the big move, and what the pros and cons are for you!

my husband and i were in NZ two years ago--April and May of 2007. i really loved it. i was in nelson for 6 weeks, and then we spent just under 2 weeks in wellington and then zipped up the north island to catch our flight out!

we loved NZ; we loved wellington a lot. whereever we travel, we find that we always love the harbor city (we like seattle, copenhagen, stockholm, etc!).

since we left, my husband has been buzzing about going back. one, he does make films here and has contacts there--he'd like to go pro. two, he just felt the overall quality of life was better. things were more simple, family oriented, and life had a slower pace overall.

so, we're seriously considering going. i think that it would be great for our careers (both mine and his), as well as our son hawk and our family life in general.

my only fear/concern is the sense of isolation and distance that i felt while there, well, just before my husband arrived (iw as there 4 weeks without him). i really felt far away from everything! LOL i was wondering if that feeling intensifies as you are there, or not?

the society feels really mobile--enjoying nz, aus, asia, pac islands, and of course, comign to the US--but i am concerned. LOL any insight?
post #53 of 72
Wellington is great!

Being a crunchy mama here is nice. I breastfeed anywhere - never got a negative comment, but I've got lots of positive comments on breastfeeding, babywearing and EC. I also potty DD anywhere. We go to a potty group fortnightly and coffee mornings with the Home Birth Association once a month. There are several good organic shops. No-vax or selective/delayed vax is an option, your dr can't kick you out for not vaxing. Well Baby visits are with Plunket nurses, not peds. If your child is unwell you see your GP, family dr. There is plenty of alternative or complementary medicine. People are nice, welcoming, and in general non-judgmental. I have more and better friends here than I've ever had, so I certainly don't feel alone! Public transport is very good (I don't drive, so it does matter to me).

Housing standard is terribly bad - expect mold, draughts, lack of insulation, single glazed windows. It is also dreadfully expensive, buying as well as renting. And salaries are low.

I miss my parents, and DD misses playing with her grandparents.

So does the feelings of distance and isolation intensify over time? No, not really. I miss my parents more now that I am a mother myself. The initial feelings of being far, far away disappeared as I got immersed in life here. This is home now, and my old home feels very, very far away (I'm no longer feeling like I am far, far away, though).

There are compelling reasons to be here and compelling reasons not to be here. Good luck sorting them out for you! PM me if there's anything else you want to know!
post #54 of 72
I just moved to Napier, NZ in December. I love it.

Pros

The weather is wonderful - I was sick of the weather in Boston, ie too cold in winter, too humid in summer. Here the summers are lovely and hot, but not humid, so it doesn't feel hot. And the winters are chilly and rainy, but NO SNOW.

Universal health care - in the States we were paying over $1000/month for our family insurance. Here kids under 6 are entirely free, and older kids and adults only pay about NZ$25 per visit. Since we're generally healthy, we spend a LOT less money on healthcare here.

Cheap locally grown fruit and veggies.

Friendly people, slower pace of life. There seems to be less fear here.

Gorgeous landscape for all activities. Hiking, boating, cycling, etc.

The exchange rate is great from the US right now.

Cons

High housing costs relative to salaries.

Lower housing standards, ie no insulation, no heat.

No Whole Foods. Harder/impossible to get a wide range of organic products.

TV sucks. I miss a lot of the shows I used to watch in the States.

Books are ridiculously expensive. Like NZ$30 for a paperback that costs US$7 in the States.

Far from family and friends in the States.


That's a brief list. I don't feel isolated here. The internet connects all! I videochat with my Mom in Boston almost every day. News from the rest of the world is just a click away.

I haven't been here long enough to make any friends yet, but I'm sure that'll happen naturally given time. There are a LOT of expats from different countries here. Mainly the UK, but also the US, Canada, India, Asia so it's more diverse than I thought it would be, which is great.

It's been harder for my 5 year old to adjust than we hoped. But she's getting there, and it's only been 3 months after all. She occasionally mentions wanting to be back in Boston, which is really tough to hear. The local public school we started her in wasn't a good fit for her, she's VERY attached to me and is bordering on having separation anxiety disorder. The teacher had an attitude of "harden up" and admonished her for crying. We switched her into a Montessori program at a different public school and she's doing much better now, because they're letting her take the time she needs to adjust.

My 3 year old seems to have had fewer issues with moving. She just started preschool here, and cries occasionally there, but I think that would have happened anywhere when being away from her parents for the first time ever.

Feel free to ask anymore specific questions, or PM me if you want! Wellington is wonderful, but we decided on Napier in the end because I didn't like the idea of having to navigate those hills on a daily basis! And we wanted smaller, quieter, rather than just another city. Napier is lovely, a seaside city as well. Not sure how flexible you'd be in terms of area you'd move to, but you should check it out.

I have a immigration blog, but I haven't been updating it too regularly:
http://kiwishavewings.blogspot.com/
Oh, and my tumblr:
http://kya.tumblr.com/

Good luck!
post #55 of 72
The wonderful thing about Wellington is that we are only 10 min from the centre of the city by train/car/bus, but you'd think we lived in a tiny, leafy village in the hills! We live in a valley, surrounded by green hills, and I can walk to the library, a great park, café, a kindy, 2 schools, a playcentre, a couple of play groups, 3 dairies (corner shops), a children's shop, a fruit shop and a supermarket. We're 5 min from the train station. There are no apartment blocks here, all the houses have gardens, and it is just very GREEN! You keep running into other mums you know at the library, park, supermarket etc.

I have to say, you get used to the hills. I called them mountains when I first came here. They don't really bother me anymore. Besides, we live along the bottom of the valley (very sunny and open, BTW), and all the shops and schools are along the bottom too, so we only have to walk up and down hills when visiting someone who lives there. And it's flat in the city.

Oh! Driving here is totally different, though, I hated it for the short while I did drive, but I hate driving anyway, most people don't mind. A lot of roads are very twisty and narrow, which is much worse than the hills themselves.

Wellington is quite windy, and often rainy in the winter, but I suppose you knew that. Summers are fine. Not too hot, not too rainy.
post #56 of 72
so, my husband and i have talked extensively and we really think that we're going to do this.

the only thing that really scares me about it is leaving family--i'm pretty close with my parents particularly now that we have a baby.

but, i also know that if it's right for us in every other way, then it's the right thing to do. and in every other way that we can think of, it's right for us.

this is our pro/con list:

pro

*great career opportunities for both of us
*slower pace of life
*more family oriented society overall
*we loved it when we were there--landscape, culture, everything

*currently, a very strong dollar

cons

*certain things are more expensive (books, movies, housing, etc)
*far from friends/family here, closer to friends there (obviously)
*various fears of the unknown, fear of failure, etc.

---

we have decided that a scouting trip in Sept is absolutely essential. we are sure that we will do things ahead of time--for example i've researched immigration a bit, checked out a business to buy (and asked them for information), and checked out some real estate stuff. DH's looked into job opportunities, as well.

i think that i do have a sense of fear, but i'm not sure why that is. i know that no matter what we do, it will all work out in the end.

i guess my biggest fear is simple failure--but failure of what? of not creating wealth or some nonsense from what i can gather. money confusions.

ah well, i'll figure it out.

when i do travel to wellington, we'll have to get together. i want to go to the EC and homebirther's groups!
post #57 of 72
You'll be very welcome here!
And of course we'll meet up, will be great to meet you. We're off to the Home birth Association's coffee morning now, actually. :
post #58 of 72
Thread Starter 
I love seeing this thread pop up when it does.

We still haven't moved that way. We were just talking about it though...this was our goal year so we would have been there by December. Not likely now.

tiffani I LOVE your blog! Just what we needed for that extra glimpse to the "inside".
post #59 of 72
We have decided for sure that we are moving to Auckland in December or Jan. I am going to buy our tickets tomorrow for our trip in May/June, but am a little scared as I am going to be 28 weeks pregnant then, and am not sure how hard it will be to travel.

I am really pverwhelmed by how much I have to actually do before we go. It is all small details, like renting out house, getting ds and our new baby passports, etc... It jsut feels like too much right now to do on my own. How hard was it all for you?

As for housing and expenses...we were under the impression that housing was much less than what it is here, and that the general things needed for a family were cheaper. But we live in Boulder, and I suppose that is much more expensive than the rest of the country. A two bedroom apartment here is at least $1000/month to rent. Seems like we would pay around $700-$800.month for a 2 bedroom around Auckland?

Could someone correct me if I am wrong, though? I know that some things are really expensive, but other things are much cheaper. We will have US incomes, so we are thinking it will be much cheaper for us there.

Hope to see some of you there!
post #60 of 72
it is lovely here, but nowhere is perfect -- there is more crime here than I had imagined, but probably not as much as a lot of places in the US. We came from Canada, specifically a little island where I felt incredibly safe (didn't even have a key to our rental house because we never locked the door when we were out -- only when I was home by myself at night, old habits die hard! ) so my reference point is a little skewed I think...

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pro

*currently, a very strong dollar
not to dissuade you at all, but just in case you will be sending NZ dollars to the US for any reason, you should be aware that the NZ dollar actually fell pretty far in comparison to the US dollar -- it had creeped up a bit last week, but while I don't think the recession has hit NZ quite like other places in the world, it's not immune... if you have US debt or payments, it will be difficult to pay them on a NZ salary.

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tiffani I LOVE your blog! Just what we needed for that extra glimpse to the "inside".
thanks so much! I never have time to get very creative or witty or philosophical on my blog, but it's so beautiful here I do have to share those photos!!

Spring Sun, have you looked at trade me to get an idea of rental housing? We pay (in Wellington) $625/week, but we're in a pretty nice 3/4 bedroom (though small) house in a nice area. It ain't cheap!!
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