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post #1 of 15
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My mw is going to dry mine and then put it in capsules for me. I think I had pp depression last time (or just a hard time adjusting to an unhappy babe) and cannot take anti-depressants, so I'm hoping this will help. Anyone else?

Melinda
post #2 of 15
My midwife is capsulizing mine too, and her dd is going to make soap with half of it. The idea is that the hormones are absorbed through the skin. Cool, huh? I'm absolutely terrified of PPD, because I've been clinically depressed in the past, and it's not a place I want to go back to. So, anything to avoid it.
post #3 of 15
I hadn't planned on it, but I'd sure like to avoid PPD too -- last time it was just awful for me, verging on PP psychosis, I'd say. I've been on meds since, but would love to either supplement, or replace, the meds.

Do either of you (or anyone else) have any links/good places to start researching this? How did you find out about it? I'd like to read up on it before I make any decisions, of course. I'm not even sure that my MW would do it -- they're kind of mainstream midwives, if you know what I mean!

TIA for any help you can give me!
~Nick
post #4 of 15
I totally dig the soap idea.
Mine is going into the freezer. Should be fun for telling random people to go get stuff from the freezer for a while In the spring or summer, we will plant a tree with it and plant another tree for my second son as well (without his placenta though. I had a container to bring it home from his birth and left it at home because I was in hard labor when we left) My DH is a little creeped out by having a palcenta in the fridge, but he'll live. (he prefers that to hearing about people making it into soups and such though!)

Namaste, Tara
post #5 of 15
I would do that but I dont know anyone who can capsulizie it for me. so I will prob bury it this spring under a tree like I did with DS's
post #6 of 15
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This is what my mw found through some of her resources:
Medicinal Uses of the Placenta

The placenta is an invaluable part of postpartum healing process for both mother & child. For thousands of years, the Chinese have revered this powerful substance in their Materia Medica as regenerative to the essence and the breath. Full of Qi (life force), the placenta aids in the recovery from childbirth, restoring lost hormones, augmenting lactation, shortening bleeding time, preventing mood jags, and ultimately helping your child in this vital time of bonding and nurturance. The placenta is prepared fresh - freezing is not recommended - with rice wine, precious herbs and fresh ginger to disperse the medicine deeply into the body. It is cleaned, steamed, and cut into very thin slices, then placed in a dehydrator until thoroughly dry. Then it is ground finely and encapsulated. It is believed that the state of mind one carries while working with the placenta will be absorbed into the medicine, so the healing focus is maintained throughout. The whole process takes 12 to 16 hours, definitely a labor of live! The typical dosage is two capsules three times a day for the first two to three weeks or until strength has been restored. It can then be called upon during the stages of your child's development where separation from Mommy is difficult, e.g. weaning, first steps, day care, etc.
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We had a lecture from a wonderful German midwife named Cornelia Enning. She told us how German mothers make placenta butter after the birth. They first make a "ghee" (clarified butter), then pour off the foam. They add two Tablespoons of powdered dry placenta to this and then reheat it. This mixture is poured in little jars and kept in case the baby gets eczema or other skin ailments. It clears it up quick, apparently.
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This is what I did with my placenta, and it worked out fine.

Take the raw placenta, cut off the cord and membranes. Use a sharp knife; it's tough! Cut the placenta into two or three pieces, and put them in the blender. Blenderize the placenta. It will look like ground meat, or spam. It won't be soupy! Spread the placenta mush into the fruit roll tray of a food dehydrator and dehydrate for most of a day. I put my dehydrator out on the porch because it *can* get a little uh, aromatic. ;o)
Take the dehydrated placenta out of the dehydrator and put it back into the (washed and dried) blender. Powder it like you would to make cracker crumbs. The end result will look very much like instant coffee granules. You can now 'cap it up', or fill empty capsules with it. The average placenta will fill 60-100 capsules. (Mine filled 100)

Now you may take the capsules, and 'eating' your placenta will not seem nearly as disgusting.
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I have had some interesting private posts last month on the subject of making the placenta into a medicine postpartum. I have cooked the placenta for a client who really wanted it ( she lived on a farm, raised all her own meat, liked organ meats in general and was thrilled with the idea of eating a meat that did not require a butcher first). I have, at times, done the tomato juice, blender thing, and NOT seen miraculous results. But my favorite placenta preparation is now to make it into an herb for use postpartum.

If you've never read my posts before, you should know that in addition to midwifery, I practice Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM). In TCM, many substances, plant, mineral, and animal are used for medicine. Human placenta is one of them. The placenta distributed through TCM supply from China looks nothing like the placenta as I have prepared it (recipe below); and I am told that it is probably from pigs. Human placenta is known as Zi he che in Pinyin (Chinese). It tonifies the (TCM concept of) Liver and Kidneys, and augments the essence. It augments the qi (energy) and nourishes the blood. It tonifies the (TCM concept of) Lung qi and augments Kidney essence. It is widely used for debilitating chronic diseases. In one study, 57 women with insufficient lactation were given Human placenta. Within 4 days, 48 had a marked increase in milk production, and the others followed suit in the next three days. Since breastmilk, in TCM theory is made from qi and blood, human placenta used to augment qi and blood will help augment lactation.

I first heard of making placenta into medicine from Raven Lang at a MANA convention in 1984. I have been making it for all my clients since. I do it as a routine, and have only had one client not want it. For all you who are ROFL right now, let me say that the placenta is prepared into a powder and encapsulated, so it's not so undesirable. To prepare, it must be cooked. Cooking in TCM is an integral part of the formation and action of the medicine. Raw is generally considered cooling, so raw placenta is cooling, and I wouldn't recommend it as a general rule. Also, none of the actions of human placenta as I am describing it can be attributed to the raw placenta. Cooking it is part of making it what it is.

To cook, wash excess blood from the placenta. Place it in a steamer over water. Place with it fresh ginger slices, half a lemon and a hot pepper. Steam for 15 minutes, turn, and steam 15 more minutes until no juice comes out when pricked with a fork. (Steam over low heat, it has a tendency to boil over and that's a mess.) The membranes and cord may be cooked with the placenta. It is helpful to turn the placenta to "Schultze", i.e, wrapped inside the membrane when you cook it. It will shrink tremendously, and wrapped in the membranes makes it easy to deal with for the next step. After steaming, slice the placenta in 1/8" strips, similar to making jerky. Slice as thin as possible. Place the strips on a cookie sheet (over alum foil if you're squeamish) and place it in a oven on the lowest possible setting for several hours until completely brittle-dry. (Again like jerky) Using a food dehydrator is even better, but will take longer. Powder the strips in a coffee grinder, and encapsulate. I advise clients to take two capsules three times a day for two weeks postpartum. It can be kept indefinitely, but is best kept in a freezer long term (like any meat). I tell clients that they can take two capsules any time they are fatigued EXCEPT as noted below.

Contraindications: placenta should not be taken alone if there is heat from yin deficiency. This would be characterized as flushed cheeks, hot palms and feet, afternoon fever, nightsweats (yes, these are common menopausal sx- many of which are caused by yin deficiency). Because in TCM many acute illnesses, esp. those characterized by fever, chills, aches, sneezing are seen as the invasion of a pathogenic evil, placenta should NEVER be taken with these symptoms. Placenta is a powerful tonifier and cannot differentiate between the body's defensive qi and the invading pathogen. Taking it while fighting off, say, a common cold, or more to the point, a breast infection (which sx are fever, aches, chills, etc.) can make the pathogen stronger and go deeper. (This is the same reason ginseng--a tonifier--is not to be taken with a common cold.) Watch those ladies right now who get influenza after delivery--they should avoid any tonifiers (placenta or otherwise) as well.

I offer this because I thought with the placentaphagia posts, you might find it interesting, and because I find it a powerful medicine, certainly accessible and easy to make. Obviously, I have a small homebirth practice, and am not offering this service in a big teaching hospital where I would be instantly sanctioned for ever bringing it up. I would appreciate it this information staying on this newsletter for now. I don't think sci.med midwifery has the readership/background for it.
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by MamaTaraX
My DH is a little creeped out by having a palcenta in the fridge, but he'll live. (he prefers that to hearing about people making it into soups and such though!)
Ahem, I havn't quite got around to mentioning this to dh yet. I'm thinking this is one of those things he's just better off not having to think about.
post #8 of 15
My midwife is also capsulizing mine. She carried it out of the hospital in a bio-hazard bag.

~Tracy
post #9 of 15
My dh is creeped out too, but I am the one to go to the deep freeze 98% of the time so he can just deal with it. I have never had ppd and hope not to. I am freezing the placenta now--there is a local person who can encapsulate it. I won't bother with encapsulation unless I start having issues. I agree that the placenta is worth its weight in gold, but eating or drinking it creeps me out. Even in pill form. If I don't need it then it will go under a tree this spring.

Amy
post #10 of 15
We're going to freeze it and plant a tree over it this spring....we need to replace the tree in our front yard anyway and everything I've read says placenta makes excellent fertilizer!
post #11 of 15
OhMel, thank you very much for the information! I really appreciate reading it.

~Nick
post #12 of 15
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Well, I told dh. He was agast and wanted to know where in the world I read this one. He says there's no way I'm going to do it (unless I do it in a ballsy way and consume it all at once) but of course I will. (This was all done with lots of laughter. The placenta became our joke of the night.) I had to promise not to tell any of my friends because he doesn't want to hear about it from any of their partners.
post #13 of 15
Great info. Now I feel tempted to eat the placenta as well. DH will be freaked out for sure if I mention this. I was just planning on freezing and planting a tree on top.
post #14 of 15

Beautiful placenta

I'm going to eat some of mine almost immediately postpartum (put it in a blender and make into a smoothie, or make into spaghetti sauce... depending on how hungry I am!)

The rest my midwife will capsulize for us. I can't wait!

Anyone else's MW make a "tree print" from the placenta for them?
post #15 of 15
This is very interesting. I hadn't heard of this before. I would love to have mine dried.

Thanks for the info!
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