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post #81 of 105
what kind of doctor are you seeing? (just wondering, since i do nutritional consulting)

have you had your kidney function tested lately? 150 grams of protein every day is REALLY stressful on the kindneys.
post #82 of 105
I would seriously consider moving if I were in your situation. Most people would be able to get significant raises if they were willing to relocate.
Definately practice making lots of bone broth for soups! They are not only economical, but very nourishing as well.
Good luck to you mama!
post #83 of 105
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Originally Posted by amydidit
the reason I can't have milk (cheese and cream are fine) is because milk is chocked full of natural sugar. My DD does have milk though so that's an idea.
It's not too hard to make yogurt or kefir out of milk- and then there's virtually no natural sugar left.
post #84 of 105
Thread Starter 
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what kind of doctor are you seeing? (just wondering, since i do nutritional consulting)

have you had your kidney function tested lately? 150 grams of protein every day is REALLY stressful on the kindneys.
The diet was orginally suggested by my nephrologist that I was seeing since they suspected a kidney problem was causing my BP issues. It wasn't, and ever kidney test has come back perfect.

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I would seriously consider moving if I were in your situation. Most people would be able to get significant raises if they were willing to relocate.
Definately practice making lots of bone broth for soups! They are not only economical, but very nourishing as well.
Good luck to you mama!
We actually just relocated here to Pueblo from AZ back in September because our financial situation was even worse in AZ. We're in a lease until November so moving isn't an option until at least then. Unfortunately we won't have the money to do another major move for at least a few years. The only way we managed this one is because my mom felt guilty (long story) so she loaned us $2000 to move on.

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It's not too hard to make yogurt or kefir out of milk- and then there's virtually no natural sugar left.
I may have to try this again. I only tried making yogurt once and it was a disaster. So bitter no one could eat it, not even DH who loves yogurt. Thanks for reminding me about it... I'll give it another go.
post #85 of 105
As far as keeping coyotes out of your chicken coop, just make sure you have a good strong latch on the door. How rural are you? That'll make a diff on the coyotes getting your chickens. We are out in the country, and I have been outside at night (I do moon rituals so I'm out alot at night by myself) and heard coyotes sooo close I could hear them growling at whatever it was they were chasing. They were just a few steps across my creek! Anyway, the thing I have the most trouble w/is stray dogs. I have literally gone out to find dead chickens and guineas everywhere. It was awful. I have had to shoot several strays because I caught them eating my chickens. Now, we let ours free range during the day, and now we don't actually have many chickens. We are eating guinea eggs. Anywhoo, we haven't been able to afford to fence all our property yet, so we just have to deal right now. We are about to start raising meat rabbits, 'cause they'll be more manageable as far as the stray dogs. (now, that's something else you could look into!) We'll get way more chickens after we secure things better and do more fencing.

So, as long as you have a fenced yard, you shouldn't have any problems. Just make sure to put them in the coop each night and lock it up tight. That is often too much trouble for coyotes, and they'd rather go chase a wild rabbit down. OH, and for very little cost, you can install a heat lamp (get one w/ a red heat bulb so chickens don't pick at each other) to turn on in the coop on cold nights. we even do that for our guineas (and they are wild birds). I have never noticed any extra cost on our electric bill due to the heat lamp. In the winter, if you want to encourage laying, just put up a regular light bulb along w/the red one. Keep it on for several hours after it gets dark. Then turn it off before you go to bed. Also, I would suggest looking for a breed called a White Rock, or a White Giant. They are great layers, and typically lay throughout the winter months.

Oh, and if you have a neighbor who has chickens, go ask them if they have any leftover chicken wire you could buy/barter for. If not, it really is cheap to buy. Or you can use a roll of hardware cloth, which is also pretty cheap. If you have any clothesline (again, cheap!) you can even weave your own!

And definitely do the compost thing! Can't believe I forgot that! They will love you for it! Just don't give them raw potato skins. YOu can cook them in the microwave and give to them like that, though.

Oh, and a great book for raising chickens is the Storey's Guide to Raising Chickens. I have that, plus the one for rabbits, and horses.
post #86 of 105
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Originally Posted by shelbean91
You can line dry outside in the winter also. It's cold putting stuff up and taking it down, but clothes dry in the cold.
I did not know that!
post #87 of 105
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Originally Posted by root*children
In Colorado, wet clothes freeze outside.
That is what I was thinking would happen....I am in MN.
post #88 of 105
Thread Starter 
Chicky2, thanks for all the info! Our arena is nearly all fenced in, only the gate section isn't fenced and the gate is missing. Wouldn't be too hard to string a wire fence across there. There are tons of wild rabbits around so it sounds like the coyotes have lots of easier prey and should leave the chickens alone since they'd be fenced in. I'm starting to feel really good about doing this. I have no idea where the neighbors with the chickens are though. I can hear them, but I've never SEEN any around anywhere ~laughs~

AngelBee, our clothes started to freeze outside when we were trying to dry them. That's when we gave up trying to dry them outside. They were solid... kinda funny, but when they thawed they were totally wet again.
post #89 of 105
No prob at all, Amy! Feel free to ask me any ?s you wish about it! As far as your neighbors, if it were me, I'd start knocking on doors, but that's just me, lol.

I'm here, so I just have to post what I just saw! A real live wolf!!! Behind my house. Def. not a coyote or reg. dog! Soooo cool!
post #90 of 105
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Originally Posted by shelbean91
They should dry. I learned about it in a science class- called sublimation, supposed to go right from liquid to gas. I learned about this when I lived in IL. I never tried it b/c I HATE the cold and didn't care enough to try.
Hey shel! Sorry to have to geek out for a moment here You're thinking of evaporation. That's when liquid turns to gas. That is how clothes normally dry. Sublimation is when a solid turns straight to a gas and skips the liquid stage (such as dry ice). Drying clothes in temperatures where it freezes at night (and many days) is tricky because they don't warm up enough for total evaporation, so they are still wet when the freeze sets in at night... clothes freeze, thaw mid-morning, dry a little more before freeze sets in, etc. It takes several days for clothes to dry. Probably in AZ it is quite a bit warmer in the day so clothes have a chance to dry before freeze sets in.
post #91 of 105
chicky, you have wolves in TX??!! I had no idea!
post #92 of 105
After doing much more research, I am thinking it's some sort of wolf/dog cross, and possibly got loose, or someone dumped it. It was def. not a coyote (see them all the time, lol). It looks like a cross between a Mexican wolf and a German Shephard, but mostly wolf-ish...Still neat to watch animals of any kind doing their hunting!
post #93 of 105
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Originally Posted by root*children
Hey shel! Sorry to have to geek out for a moment here You're thinking of evaporation. That's when liquid turns to gas. That is how clothes normally dry. Sublimation is when a solid turns straight to a gas and skips the liquid stage (such as dry ice). Drying clothes in temperatures where it freezes at night (and many days) is tricky because they don't warm up enough for total evaporation, so they are still wet when the freeze sets in at night... clothes freeze, thaw mid-morning, dry a little more before freeze sets in, etc. It takes several days for clothes to dry. Probably in AZ it is quite a bit warmer in the day so clothes have a chance to dry before freeze sets in.
That's right!! DOH! From solid to gas, so water would freeze, then dry. According to what I learned. In AZ, where I live, it very, very rarely freezes, so I'd never have a chance to try, but as I said, I learned about this in IL, where it freezes LOTS.

I'm not thinking of evaporation, as you said, this is the way clothes would normally, I'm thinking of sublimation and misspoke- thanks for the correction. I read and reread and still missed it.

So, I believed my science teacher that this would work, but never tried it out. The thing with drying clothes this way, is you wouldn't want them to thaw, just stay frozen until dry. (I'm never planning on moving back to the cold, so probably will NEVER have the chance to try this out.)

Anyway, if you've tried it and it didn't work, you'd know better than me.
post #94 of 105
Amy,
I am a country girl and as much as I hate to see little animals killed I would eat them and hunt for them myself if I had to. You mention you have rabbits. Can you get hubby to snare and "prepare" them so they're just meat when you get them? Also, rabbit fur makes for warm mitts.

When our dryer was broken we just hung up clothes on hangers in the bathroom. Not touching of course.

Are there any other farms around that have beef cows/chickens/pigs? I would try to barter housekeeping or something else in exchange for meat.

I'll keep thinking too!
post #95 of 105
LOL, y'all skweemish (is that really a word or did I just misspell?) folk would just love this GOURMET cookbook I have that has recipes for racoon, opossum, squirrel, rabbit, javelina, etc....LOL!
post #96 of 105
Thread Starter 
Well DH has officially said he will not prepare any animals, but he'll check and see if anyone in his family knows how or knows someone that would. There are tons of cute, fluffy, little bunnies hopping around here that would love to be in a stew. Is there a way to make rabbit less gamey though? I was thinking a stew in a crock pot might be nice.
post #97 of 105
For less gamey rabbit....soak over night in a brine (1/2 cup salt, 1/2 cup sugar, to 1/2 gallon water). Then rinse well inside and out, and cook as usual. Just cook it like you would a chicken. We are soon to start our meat rabbits and they will not taste gamey at all. Raising meat rabbits is something else that you could look into, but only if you can get them butchered! A domestic rabbit packs more protein than a chicken breast! They are easier on the tummy (great broth for stomach troubles!), and are just healthier in general than meat you buy at the store. Cook wild ones nice a slow--yes a slow cooker would be great!

If there are any signs of tapeworm(all game can get them, and it's really no big deal as long as meat is treated correctly) when the rabbit is butchered, just remove the worms and rinse meat well. Freeze for 20 days before eating, and that will take care of it just fine. (I promise!)
post #98 of 105
Btw, I have tons of rabbit recipes if you need any.

And I can't help it...I am just one of those ppl...I'm worried about your kidneys, even though your tests all came back fine. Do you know anything of herbals? Dandelion is a great tonic herb for the kidneys. Very easy to take (capsule form) or you can even dig the roots up in your yard, as long as they haven't been sprayed, and make a decoction or syrup to take. Just a very good idea to take dandelion when ingesting so much protein.
post #99 of 105
Maybe post 11 in this thread would be helpful to you. It was news to me, but definitely an interesting possibility to look into.
post #100 of 105
Not m,uch real advice other than what everyoen else gave. I would definatly try WIC. If you are gettng food stamps than there is no reason you wouldnt' qualify. An they give cheese (which i asume you can eat as i didn't see it listed) and eggs. And tehy also give out vouchers (in our area anyway) in teh summer for fresh produce form farmers markets. Also they will give nursing mothers dried beans, and tuna. And infants can get cereal (iron fortified) formula, juice and as they get older cold cereals, milk, cheese, peanut butter, eggs, etc. My kids have never had any sort of blood work a twic, nor had i . We jsut submti the records form teh Dr's whne we recieved wic. ALSO they will not give you the breastfeeding benefits if you are recieveing formula.. (at least we were told so). And if i am correct you cant' use your food stamp money to by paper products can you? so cutin back on those in your regular budget could free up some money there to buy food. And quite franlky if there was not enough food in my home to feed my family i would do whatever possible to get some. Wether it be to go off my diet, have dh go off his diet get a job, stretch my patience a bit to take care of soemoen elses child. learn to eat things i didn't liek etc. I understand that you sadi the diet is making your health better and are off meds. I'm making an assumption here, and correct me if I'm wrong.. If you are recieving Food stamps then you qualify for health ins, right? so they will cover your med if they are prescribed and you cannot afford them . IMO it woudl be better to be back on teh meds for a while and get you finances inorder than to be off them and be starving (wel nto starvign casue you're livign on steak) but struggling to meet a family's needs. Also I believe you mentioned tha tyour DD went ot teh Y for preschool? is that rigth (or am i confusing posts?) could that expense be cut? since you later mentioned that you wanted to homeschooL. I'm sure it wil be tough but our monthly food allowance is not much higher than what you are getting from foodstamps.. we spend abotu $250 every six weeks. Which is actually only about $42 a week. We eat meat. a fair amount of it actually. But we get buy and since we don't qualify fo rassistance we have to scimp that amount from our checks. Goos luck to you. I woudl seriouly tal kto your Dr though adn see if you could modify the diet a bit or go back on teh meds to get on your feet
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