Curing Cavities with Nutrition - Page 8

[krankedyann]

Originally Posted by chasmyn

You put lye in your soap that you use in your mouth? Lye is caustic...is there something I'm not aware of?

ALL soap has lye in it. The lye is saponified when you make soap, rendering it non-caustic. It reacts completely with the fat to form a completely new compound. She says saponified on the label so people who don't know about soapmaking won't freak over the lye.

I personally use the Perfect Perscription Tooth Soap, and I LOVE it.

Lye is still available online, you just have to look to find it. I havne't bought any in quite a while.

[jennaIL]

I am very excited to find this hunk of information! My daughter was just diagnosed with two small cavities and I would like to treat them without fillings, if possible. My daughter is almost 5 and hasn't been to the dentist in almost 2 years. At that time, the dentist was unable to get xrays. So, I don't know how long these little cavities have been around.

I am already planning on switching to raw milk and butter (I found a local source) and using bone broth. She is currently on Omega-3 Fish Oil. How would that work with the CLO? Can she take both? The Omega-3 REALLY helps her behavior/concentration and I would hate to take her off it. If using both isn't an option, how can I supplement the Vit's A & D?

Thanks in advance for any help.

[chasmyn]

Originally Posted by krankedyann

ALL soap has lye in it. The lye is saponified when you make soap, rendering it non-caustic. It reacts completely with the fat to form a completely new compound. She says saponified on the label so people who don't know about soapmaking won't freak over the lye.

I personally use the Perfect Perscription Tooth Soap, and I LOVE it.

Lye is still available online, you just have to look to find it. I havne't bought any in quite a while.

Oh! Okay, I see - thanks!

[krankedyann]

Originally Posted by jennaIL

I am already planning on switching to raw milk and butter (I found a local source) and using bone broth. She is currently on Omega-3 Fish Oil. How would that work with the CLO? Can she take both? The Omega-3 REALLY helps her behavior/concentration and I would hate to take her off it. If using both isn't an option, how can I supplement the Vit's A & D?

CLO is basically fish oil plus the A&D. You can give her both at the same time. Although you might find you don't need the fish oil or can wean her off of it if you start her on a good quality CLO, like Blue Ice or Radiant Life. Also, for healing cavities, you'd want to include butter oil from Green Pastures on top of the raw dairy, if you can afford it. It's $$.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by jennaIL

She is currently on Omega-3 Fish Oil. How would that work with the CLO? Can she take both? The Omega-3 REALLY helps her behavior/concentration and I would hate to take her off it. If using both isn't an option, how can I supplement the Vit's A & D?

CLO has omega 3's, there is no need to give both. CLO is preferable because of the high vitamin content, not only for teeth, but it helps protect the oils from oxidation in the body.

What is the EPA/DHA dosage that she is taking now in the fish oil? Just correlate that amount with the new dose of CLO.

[yitlan]

Not a cavity, but what should I do for a small chip on a baby tooth? Just happened tonight to my 2yo. Should I step up CLO or butter oil? Or should I just watch it and not worry unless I see signs of damage or decay?

[RiverSky]

Here's my question...my son's permanent teeth are coming in yellow. I am mortified, to tell the truth. I always had strong, straight, healthy teeth, ate healthfully and nutritiously throughout pregnancy and nursing, have fed him organic his entire life with few sweets (cake at birthday parties and such, special occasions, mainly). My DS has brushed regularly, once or twice a day, always, and even flosses a couple-few times a week (we're working on it). What is going on? My DH has less perfect teeth and I can tell from his pictures when he was about DS's age, that DS's permanent teeth seem to be coming in shaped like DH's (big eye teeth, slightly crooked but mostly pretty nice) .

What can I do to help my son and the rest of the teeth that are coming in? It's so odd to see yellow permanent teeth coming in beside white baby teeth. Help!

TYIA

[JaneS]

Iron, fluoride and some antibiotics like Cipro can cause yellow staining.

[RiverSky]

Originally Posted by JaneS

Iron, fluoride and some antibiotics like Cipro can cause yellow staining.

Iron, hmmm, I can't imagine where he might have gotten too much iron from. I don't even use cast iron though I am looking into starting that now, since I'm low in iron.

He's never had Cipro though he had one round of Amoxicillin (for an eye infection) when he was 2, to which he got hives, gave him benadryl and won't ever give it to him again.

Fluoride...hmmm....we have never had fluoridated water though he has usually used fluoridated toothpaste, but not always (and not right now). His teeth have never received a fluoride treatment. Is that enough to cause it? I have seen people have white spots on their teeth from too much fluoride, I'd never heard that fluoride could also turn them yellow.

Is this something that can be fixed naturally?

In the future, if he wanted his teeth whitened, is tooth whitening safe?

Ah, so many questions, so little time. Thank you for your response.

[JaneS]

Giving Amoxicillin to Babies May Harm Permanent Teeth

Giving the antibiotic amoxicillin to infants may contribute to problems with the enamel of their permanent teeth, a new study suggests.
However, the study authors and other experts said the finding is preliminary and more research is needed to determine if a cause-and-effect relationship exists.

Amoxicillin is commonly prescribed to children for problems such as ear infections and other bacterial illnesses.

"The changes in the appearance of the teeth in children that we call dental fluorosis appears to be associated with the use of amoxicillin during the first year of life," said lead researcher Dr. Steven M. Levy, the Wright-Bush-Shreeves Professor of Research and director of Dental Public Health at the University of Iowa.

Dental Fluorosis

Exposure to fluoride during the first couple years of life is the primary cause of dental fluorosis, Levy said. Dental fluorosis is permanent damage to enamel-forming cells. The damage causes the enamel to become porous, resulting in staining and discoloration. The problems can range from barely noticeable white flecks, to pits and brown stains.
http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/1734/63

Post a new thread about tooth whitening, I'd like to know about safety issues too!

[cobluegirl]

eek....we just had a round of amoxicillan for strep...grrrr...

I too want to know about whitening..my teeth are changing colors for some very strange reason....

[AnnC]

Dental Fluorosis

Exposure to fluoride during the first couple years of life is the primary cause of dental fluorosis, Levy said. Dental fluorosis is permanent damage to enamel-forming cells. The damage causes the enamel to become porous, resulting in staining and discoloration. The problems can range from barely noticeable white flecks, to pits and brown stains.
http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/1734/63

Wow, that could explain so much about my father's teeth, which have always been pitted and brown-spotted. We thought it was some genetic quirk.

Ann

[kissykoko]

my little dd(almost 5yrsold) is going this wed morning to get 4 cavities filled. we drink raw milk and she takes the nordic naturals gelcaps everyday(clo). they are using versed and nitrous. oh I am dreading this just thought I better subscribe after reading this whole thread! thanks, Crystal

[kissykoko]

subscribe

[WuWei]

Kissykoko,

Our son (5) just had four caps, an extraction and fillings under general anethesia a few weeks back. He did great. I was concerned about having versed given to our son, on an outpatient basis, unless an anesthesiologist (not only a nurse anesthesiologist) was present. I was a critical care nurse and the monitoring, emergency equipment and resources were not enough for me to feel safe in the office setting. I even examined all of the emergency equipment myself.

There is a group call Very Young Kids Teeth that has lots of information about cavity prevention, treatments, etc. Their "File" section has some very specific information about sedation alternatives and their risks. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...oungkidsteeth/



Best wishes, Pat

[pixie-n-hertwoboys]

a question - is that the ONLY brand of butter oil? it seems a bit pricey.

My 5 year old, I've discovered, has quite a large spot on the back of his last molar... we've never been to the dentist but brush every day and floss weekly. I've got my own phobias of the dentist that I must get over obviously.

So in order to heal it (is it possible since the spot is already there?) we need to be doing the butter oil, CLO (we do the nordic natuals childrens dha daily would that still work?) I do give them marrow soups but not organs (but would if it meant healing cavaties from the inside out) would this need to be fed daily?

[moneca]

Originally Posted by pixie-n-hertwoboys

a question - is that the ONLY brand of butter oil? it seems a bit pricey.

My 5 year old, I've discovered, has quite a large spot on the back of his last molar... we've never been to the dentist but brush every day and floss weekly. I've got my own phobias of the dentist that I must get over obviously.

So in order to heal it (is it possible since the spot is already there?) we need to be doing the butter oil, CLO (we do the nordic natuals childrens dha daily would that still work?) I do give them marrow soups but not organs (but would if it meant healing cavaties from the inside out) would this need to be fed daily?

Green Pastures is the only butter oil I've seen. We've used it for about 6 months now. It is expensive, but cheaper if you buy a case(12) or half case(6) which is what I do.
In Nutrition and Physical Degeneration one of Price's studies involoved a group of mission school children during the depression era. These children ate breakfast and dinner at home primarily consisiting of white flour and sugar. Price fed them lunch at school. Their noonday meal always started with 1/2 tsp. of an equal mix of high vitamin butter oil and high vitamin CLO. This was followed with 2 glasses of raw pastured milk, freshly made wheat bread (I think with raw butter), and a main course of something highly nutritious such as beef and vegetable stew. Can't remember if there was fruit involved and I'd look it up if dd's chiro didn't still have my copy.
After 4-6 weeks on this diet the children's energy, performance in school, and dental carries had improved. The actual exerpt from his book can probably be found at www.westonaprice.com Other than including white flour and sugar in dd's day I use this to guide me.

[tulipmama]

I think they also had a glass of OJ or tomato juice with the BO/CLO.

Pretty amazing results! We do bone broths for lunch, but I need to order some butter oil....

[eilonwy]

I've been looking over this thread (haven't read the whole thing yet) and I'm all in favor of improving our nutrition for any number of reasons, but I've got a question: is there any way to get the sort of supplementation you're describing without paying an arm and a leg? I mean, if I could afford $60 every two or three weeks, I could afford to see a dentist!

[JaneS]

Well it's not just your teeth that will be suffering from nutritional deficiencies, a dentist cannot effect your whole body like good food can.

Bone broths and raw milk can be found rather cheap if you find a good farm near you. Make your own butter from grass fed cream. The cod liver oil can be ordered by the case for under $14/bottle at Green Pasture I think?