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post #201 of 861
Thanks Ann,
That's kinda what I was wondering. I'm in FL and get raw butter, cream etc. from grass fed cows. I wonder if that's good enough? (Probably not, given the crappy grass we have here (if you want to call it that.)
post #202 of 861
so question...two of my kids have cavities they need filled...they are also both off dairy..what would you do?
post #203 of 861
Wow, still so much info. Thanks ladies!
I'm pretty sure my dd has not only a hole in her front tooth but possibly a whole whack load of cavities. : I feel like such a bad mom!
I didn't brush her teeth enough, give her vitamins soon enough, she drinks floruinated water(yeah, I meant to say that! Its tap, yuck!) has had soft drinks, and candy! ARGHHHH!!!!
Go ahead, I know you want to >
I wish I could do it myself, but darn it, I can never hit myself hard enough.

What do I do?!! I've started brushing her teeth more often, I've been giving her Kindervital multivitamins(liquid) I've been supplementing with CLO and Vitamin C (along with other stuff) in hopes that she would recieve it through my breastmilk. Oh and we still night nurse! ARGHHHHH!!!!!
: okay enough already.
We can't get raw milk here, or the butter oil.:
I'm going to go hide in a hole for awhile. I have an appointment with the dentist in a couple weeks, so maybe I'll get more of an idea of how bad her teeth are.
:
post #204 of 861
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Originally Posted by Annikate
Thanks moneca. Do you notice a big difference in the way you feel taking it?
I haven't felt any difference, but I got the last of my amalgams removed just before starting it and then started chelating shortly after that. Moving all that mercury has kept me from feeling as energetic as usual so it's hard to say that the oils have made me feel any better. I continue to take it beause N&PD changed my way of thinking about EVERYTHING I put in my mouth.
post #205 of 861
How are you chelating yourself?
post #206 of 861
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Originally Posted by eilonwy
How are you chelating yourself?
Per Andy Cutler's protocol www.noamalgam.com
Check out the chelating mamas thread that is on the first page of dental.
post #207 of 861

Interested in dental cure for cavities, and other dental info.

Hello, I am 45 and I have a 9 year old. Last year I had all my amalgams removed due to mecury poisoning. My son has had many problems with his teeth. I think largely to my poor health and systemic problems, as well as lack of information about the best nutrition. I am interested in helping to heal his mouth, improve his nutrition and help him never to have a cavity again. I appreciate the advice that everyone has given thus far. He currently has 9 cavities in his teeth, 4 in his permanent teeth, 5 in baby teeth. He was given a clean bill of health about 1.5 years ago. I found out he was being given sugar in his latchkey program, and at school so I pulled him out of the latchkey thing. Also, when he was born via c-section, he had an infected umbilical cord and then had pneumonia several times landing in the hospital where he was given very high doses of anti-biotics. This is my question: Should I get the dental work done and then concentrate on nutrition or should I concentrate on the nutrition and working on reducing bacteria counts and then see if the cavities heal a bit? I am so sorry I did not know about all this while I was breast feeding.: Thank you
post #208 of 861
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnynparadise
This is my question: Should I get the dental work done and then concentrate on nutrition or should I concentrate on the nutrition and working on reducing bacteria counts and then see if the cavities heal a bit? I am so sorry I did not know about all this while I was breast feeding.: Thank you
The amount of info I wish I knew before getting pg too is enormous!

This is hard to say, only you can decide. Are his teeth bothering him?
post #209 of 861
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Originally Posted by neverdoingitagain
Wow, still so much info. Thanks ladies!
I'm pretty sure my dd has not only a hole in her front tooth but possibly a whole whack load of cavities. : I feel like such a bad mom!
I didn't brush her teeth enough, give her vitamins soon enough, she drinks floruinated water(yeah, I meant to say that! Its tap, yuck!) has had soft drinks, and candy! ARGHHHH!!!!
Go ahead, I know you want to >
I wish I could do it myself, but darn it, I can never hit myself hard enough.

What do I do?!! I've started brushing her teeth more often, I've been giving her Kindervital multivitamins(liquid) I've been supplementing with CLO and Vitamin C (along with other stuff) in hopes that she would recieve it through my breastmilk. Oh and we still night nurse! ARGHHHHH!!!!!
: okay enough already.
We can't get raw milk here, or the butter oil.:
I'm going to go hide in a hole for awhile. I have an appointment with the dentist in a couple weeks, so maybe I'll get more of an idea of how bad her teeth are.
:
As mamas we do the best we can for our kiddos with the knowledge we have. It's all a journey and we are always learning, changing, and evolving. Did you check www.realmilk.com for a raw source near you? I can't remember if the site includes Canada. If you still have no luck I would to to the traditional foods forum in Nutrition. Mountainmom and Briesen(I think) live in Canada along with others. You could post a question asking for a raw source in your area and they would do their best to help you.
In the meantime could you make some bone broth? I make mine with a pastured chicken (2-4 pounds) and it is really very easy and nutrient dense. I have no problem getting my 2 1/2 yo to drink 4 oz. each day.
post #210 of 861
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobluegirl
so question...two of my kids have cavities they need filled...they are also both off dairy..what would you do?
Sorry I didnt' see this until now...

Get as much seafood into them as possible. The cultures that ate seafoods actually had the best teeth and bones out of any of the tribes Price studied.
post #211 of 861
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by neverdoingitagain
Go ahead, I know you want to >
I wish I could do it myself, but darn it, I can never hit myself hard enough.

What do I do?!! I've started brushing her teeth more often, I've been giving her Kindervital multivitamins(liquid) I've been supplementing with CLO and Vitamin C (along with other stuff) in hopes that she would recieve it through my breastmilk. Oh and we still night nurse! ARGHHHHH!!!!!

We can't get raw milk here, or the butter oil.:
I'm going to go hide in a hole for awhile. I have an appointment with the dentist in a couple weeks, so maybe I'll get more of an idea of how bad her teeth are.
We've all made mistakes!! Believe me, I've made some doozies myself!!

But the best thing you can do with these feelings is use them to act and be determined.

Find a good source of grass fed butter and overdose her on it. Freeze some for the winter (spring/fall grass fed butter has highest amounts of X Factor). The X Factor is not killed by pasteurization. Some brands we can get here are Jana Valley butter from NZ, Kerrygold from Ireland and Organic Valley from US. There must be grass fed butter in Canada widely available, email your WAPF chapter leader for help too. Bone broths are a great suggestion. I would give her CLO directly.

Night nursing is not a problem. Nurse as long as possible... breastmilk has the X Factor!!! Make sure your diet contains only healthy fats as well. The types of fats you eat are directly transferred in BM (trans fats etc.)

post #212 of 861
Thanks for the suggestions ladies! I might have a line on organic milk, just not grass-fed. I checked out the link you showed me before, and the closest one is in B.C. Grass-fed butter still has the X factor when pasturized? Really?! Awesome, I'll definately look into that!
I think I know what the problem is though, and its the easiest mistake to make. Fluoride, from our tap water. I made the mistake of using tap water almost from the beginning. I hoped the fluoride in the water would prevent cavities. Her teeth look like the beginning stages of fluorosis. Even the dentist thought it was, LAST YEAR, when I took her. She didn't think it was though, thought it was impossible to be fluorosis, since Kiki didn't take fluoride drops.
I've also changed her water to reverse osmosis water. Thats not such a heartache for me, I prefer it anyway
Soooo, fats transfer to bm? Oh crap. I'll have to remember that
post #213 of 861
I had a great conversation with a dentist's office here who follows proper protocol for removing amalgams and knows all about all of this including nutrition. (Well, it seems his whole office understands this stuff.)

I have an appointment on Monday and I'm so excited. I can't wait to talk to him.

Even though I have 3 amalgams left in my mouth, and am still b'feeding dd, I can at least have my teeth cleaned meantime knowing that they're not going to disturb the mercury while they're doing it.

I sooo wish I had these things out of my mouth but I don't think it's wise to remove them while b'feeding even under proper protocol do you? Which is worse, to keep them in and continue or to have them removed by this dentist?
post #214 of 861
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annikate
I sooo wish I had these things out of my mouth but I don't think it's wise to remove them while b'feeding even under proper protocol do you? Which is worse, to keep them in and continue or to have them removed by this dentist?
Don't touch those fillings while you are breastfeeding regardless of what your dentist may tell you! Removing amalgams (regardless of how safe the protocol is) increases the mercury in your body and thus your breastmilk . Wait until you have weaned her and then you can start right in as long as you're not ttc.
post #215 of 861
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaneS
Get as much seafood into them as possible. The cultures that ate seafoods actually had the best teeth and bones out of any of the tribes Price studied.
Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseam already--search brings up an overwhelming number of hits. What about the mercury in seafood thing? Do you just stick to "low mercury" seafood?
post #216 of 861
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Originally Posted by mama-a-llama
Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseam already--search brings up an overwhelming number of hits. What about the mercury in seafood thing? Do you just stick to "low mercury" seafood?
Someone wrote to the WAPF in their recent newsletter, saying he was nervous about how the foundation recommends seafood to prenant and nursing women and children with all the evidence of mercury being a poison. Here's the reply.

From Wise Traditions, Summer 2006 issue, page 7-8:
"Mercury has always been present in our environment, esp. in the sea. (One potent source is volcanic eruptions, which also spew out harmful compounds such as dioxins.) For this reason, our bodies have mechanisms for getting rid of these toxins. One such mechanism is glutathione, as described above. Many foods that are very good for us also contain toxins, such as liver and fish. [yitlan's note: when Sally Fallon spoke at a conference I attended, she emphasized that cultures have ALWAYS had toxins in their environments, but had good nutrition to counter this. Gave me some hope for us today.] While we should not overload our systems by unnecessarily exposing ourselves and our children to toxins like mercury, we can also protect ourselves against small amounts inherently present in our food and environment by eating the right foods. Sea foods provide many important nutrients for hte growing baby and contribute to superb physical development in sea-coast populations such as those in Alaska. We recommend a variety of seafoods, esp. shellfish, for pregnant women and growing children instead of an overreliance on the larger fish such as tuna, along with the avoidance of a much mroe serious source of mercury, dental amalgams. By the way, there is an excellent website at www.oceana.org that posts the results of yearly testing for mercury in fish. Many commonly eaten fish are surprisingly low in mercury."

HTH.
post #217 of 861
Thread Starter 
Great post Yitlan.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mama-a-llama
Sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseam already--search brings up an overwhelming number of hits. What about the mercury in seafood thing? Do you just stick to "low mercury" seafood?
I like the advice at www.ewg.org on safer fish options.
post #218 of 861
I found the most awesome dentist!

He's a homeopathic dentist, a member of IAOMT, and knew all about everything I told him about dd's issues re: mercury toxicity.

He asked about vaxing and how long I planned on b'feeding dd. When I told him I had no plans of weaning her any time soon he patted my hand.

He had back issues of Wise Traditions around the office and extra copies of NT around.

His whole staff is knowledgeable about ALL of this including hair testing, etc...

He even gave me some valuable advice re: dd.
post #219 of 861
Thread Starter 
Yippee!!!!

(and what was his advice??)
post #220 of 861
was just about to post that over in htg. Need opinions on it.

He recommended this product for dd: (if it was safe for babes - he wasn't sure)
http://worldnutrition.info/vitalzym_enzyme.html
And this product for me in the meantime (to help her.)
http://www.luminahealth.com/

I haven't read really much of any of it yet. . . .
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