Curing Cavities with Nutrition - Page 3

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by JaneS

Cool, let me know if you like it!

I will be sure to let you know. I have been wanting that book for ever, but I couldn't even remember the guy's name until you posted about it. I am so excited!

[emmaofpa]

Thank you to everyone who has shared here! I have alot to read and think about, but I have one question--
How do you get your kids to take cod liver oil?
They would probably take it if I force them, but any tastier ways would be appreciated!

[JaneS]

DS gets CLO right now in few ounces of juice in a covered sippy with his other supplements: enzymes, minerals, acerola powder. He never gets juice otherwise, so it's a treat to him. But he used to take it right off the spoon starting at 8 months old.

You could also try a syringe to shoot it towards the back of the mouth, along the cheek area to bypass the tongue. Start very small dosage, with a meal, some people have nausea on an empty stomach.

[Mirzam]

Mine just eat if off the spoon too, but they are older (8 and 6), however they have been taking off the spoon for several years. They don't particularly like it, but "suck it up".

[sunshinestarr]

Originally Posted by JaneS

Regarding toothpaste and nutritional support of teeth, Gerard Judd's info is very interesting:
http://gerardjudd.com/goodteeth.htm

The idea is that glycerine, which is in all toothpastes, coats the teeth and hinders remineralization from the saliva since glycerine takes something like 20 washes to get it all off. Soap takes 2-3 rinses.

Several months ago, I got some Toothsoap based on a rec from someone here and I really like it! Doesn't taste like soap at all, just neutral. My teeth do feel very clean. Don't know if it's diet changes either, but I don't get that tiny line of tartar near the gums anymore. I'll update you the next time I visit my dentist for a cleaning to let you know if they notice a difference too.

http://www.perfect-prescription.com/dentalhygiene.htm

I'm so glad that I found this thread!!!!! Yay! I'm very interested in healing my own cavities - I don't know if raw milk is available where I am, but I asked on an email list, so we'll see. I really hope so, cuz I'm a vegetarian (I guess I still am.. I just started to eat fish though).
I've been using Toothsoap for maybe a year and a half now. I LOVE it!!! I get it from here: www.naturaltoothsoap.com - and it's the best stuff. There are awesome flavours, too. Ginger is new and I heard rumours of a citrus.
Off to learn some more..

[clothdiapermama]

Originally Posted by emmaofpa

Thank you to everyone who has shared here! I have alot to read and think about, but I have one question--
How do you get your kids to take cod liver oil?
They would probably take it if I force them, but any tastier ways would be appreciated!

I know that CorOmega makes a yummy orange flavored gel (pre-measured)- I think that kids might like that. My 3 yo takes Carlson's out of a measuring spoon - but he's been taking it for quite awhile -so he's used to it. Good luck! I've seen this at a couple of nutrition stores.

[emmaofpa]

Thanks, I will try to find that. What are the pros/cons of other fish oil supplements as opposed to CLO?
This has been a very helpful and interesting thread. Gotta love all you wonderful MDC mommies!

[clothdiapermama]

There's a thread related to CLO and fish oil supplements in the Nurtition & Good Eating forum - it is relating to pregnancy - but has some great info. HTH! I found the thread:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=408632

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by clothdiapermama

I know that CorOmega makes a yummy orange flavored gel (pre-measured)- I think that kids might like that. My 3 yo takes Carlson's out of a measuring spoon - but he's been taking it for quite awhile -so he's used to it. Good luck! I've seen this at a couple of nutrition stores.

This is okay for essential fatty acids but it is missing 2 important things that cod liver oil provides: Vitamins A and D.

I still prefer Nordic Naturals Peach as the best tasting for kids, as it is twice the DHA/EPA fatty acids of Coromega. Even though Nordic Naturals is low vitamin. The strawberry Berry Keen for kids is good tasting too but even less vitamins.

When I use NN for DS, I supplement him with Carlson A and D pills from natural cod liver oil. He just chews them now, but when he was taking D as a bf babe, I poked them with the tine of a fork and just squirted it in side of mouth.

Price found that it was these key fat soluble vitamins that actually were catalysts for the body absorbing minerals. One example was the diet of a boy with rickets. He was drinking skimmed milk. Although he had been consuming minerals in the milk, he wasn't absorbing them without the vitamin D in the fat.

Native diets contained on average 50,000 IU of natural vitamin A for adults. The woefully deficient RDA is 5,000 IU.

Regarding D, I have posted in the Nutrition/Immunology 101 thread links to www.mercola.com re: testing D levels. Mercola says 40,000 IU is needed a day to maintain your levels over the winter. (also since we've trashed our ozone, people like me are only able to make vitamin D a few months out of the year b/c we live in the north.)

Something to think about, again when the RDA of D is 400IU.

[mlleoiseau]

If you were going to do the Coromega, you can get a free sample by calling or going online. I tried it once and thought it tasted awful--too much like the baby aspirin my parents used to make me take.

Thanks for the info on Nordic Naturals peach flavor. I didn't know they had that. About how long would a bottle last?

I'm trying to get the Berry Keen into dd now since I already have some. Tried giving it straight but she didn't like it. Mixed it in some applesauce, but she'll only eat 1 or 2 spoonfuls at a time. Maybe she'll eat it before going to bed tonight. Not sure I should even try juice as she has never had juice. If I can't get her to take it in applesauce, I will try a smoothie in the morning.

[rype]

I just picked up Nordic lemon flavor today. I doesn't taste like anything to me! Idon't have a sense of smell though. My little guy (16mos) wanted it because I was having it so I had no problem. My husband just said it smells like lemon and that it was preferable to a pill. We both had it with emergen-c. But I tried half on it's own.


My husband and I have embraced this wholeheartedly and I want to thank everyone here for doing the research. I am so grateful for this thread and it's relatively quick answer.

[mlleoiseau]

Originally Posted by JaneS

[B]I still prefer Nordic Naturals Peach as the best tasting for kids, as it is twice the DHA/EPA fatty acids of Coromega. Even though Nordic Naturals is low vitamin. The strawberry Berry Keen for kids is good tasting too but even less vitamins.

I was looking at the Nordic Naturals Peach and comparing it to the Berry Keen. We already have the Berry Keen, but I wanted to get the Peach cause it looked like it had more vitamins. Then I looked at the serving size. The peach one is 1 tsp. The berry one is 1/2 tsp. So as far as I can tell, they are the same vitamin wise.

I am thinking of supplementing dd with A and D. She has really bad keratosis pilaris, (which the doctors say is because she has allergies.) Plus, we don't get very much sun as we are in WA state and it is cold.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by mlleoiseau

I was looking at the Nordic Naturals Peach and comparing it to the Berry Keen. We already have the Berry Keen, but I wanted to get the Peach cause it looked like it had more vitamins. Then I looked at the serving size. The peach one is 1 tsp. The berry one is 1/2 tsp. So as far as I can tell, they are the same vitamin wise.

Whoops, totally missed that! Well that's good, it seemed kind of weird to me, but I figured it was the whole "anti vitamin A" ridiculousness.

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by mlleoiseau

I am thinking of supplementing dd with A and D. She has really bad keratosis pilaris, (which the doctors say is because she has allergies.) Plus, we don't get very much sun as we are in WA state and it is cold.

The A and D pills I'd recommend are Carlson's Natural b/c they are from fish liver oil: http://www.carlsonlabs.com/product_f...l?categid=0004

My DS just chews them.

Any vitamin A that is chemical should be strictly avoided, the "retinyl palmitate" for example.

The vitamin D needs to be from fish liver oil too, the D3, not the D2 from yeast.

[mlleoiseau]

Thanks, Jane. I went to a health food store tonight to look for A and D, but they didn't carry Carlson's brand. I know a store that does, so I'll get some next week.

[TudoBem]

[QUOTE=bmanmommy]I'm not sure, obviously, but I do wonder. Simply because the dentist was so amazed. He said he just didn't see tissues like those INSIDE decayed teeth. QUOTE]


Jennifer,

I'm curious if after a while on those supplements if the brown decay you noticed on his teeth went away or if they were always brown. In other words, could you tell visually that the teeth were improving/remineralizing or was it only apparent after the dentist started working on them?
I think you said you had been taking the supplements for quite a few months then.

[kmecke]

Vitamin and D

I've got a few questions for you mamas

What are some foods we could eat to help get our Vitamin A and D intake?

Also are there any side effects to Cod Liver Oil or Butter Oil that i should know about and consider?

How do I get raw milk or butter?

[JaneS]

A & D are only in animal foods: butter and cream from grass fed cows. Organ meats including liver. Some fish and shellfish but not farm raised. Lard has vit. D. And of course cod liver oil

More on traditional fats and why they are healthy here:
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

Vitamin A info here.
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...aminasaga.html
The current worry about "too much" vitamin A only applies to chemical forms. Native diets got 50,000 IU/day on average to support good health.

The Miracle of Vitamin D
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...ndmiracle.html

I don't know of any side effects but do go slow if your body is not used to digesting fats.

Cod Liver Oil Number One Superfood
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...dliveroil.html

[JaneS]

Where to get raw milk here:

www.realmilk.org

[kmecke]

Ok so I'm a little confused! Today I went nd bought Carlson's Cod Liver Oil in gel form. I can take 5 gells a day and get 1250 IU of Vitamin A and 500 IU of Vitamin D. On my multi-vitamin im taking I get 7000 IU of Vitamin A and 400 IU of Vitamin D-3 so what is my body getting different from the two that will help me?