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post #61 of 861
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The Invisible Toothbrush
By Emmanuel Cheraskin, MD, DMD

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One of the many risk factors for heart disease is poor dental health. The root cause for both diseases is probably the same—nutritional deficiencies, including deficiency of vitamin C. In this article, Dr. Emmanuel Cheraskin presents evidence that serum vitamin C levels are just as important as brushing for the prevention of tooth decay. His research also explains why primitive peoples on nutrient-dense diets have no tooth decay, in spite of the fact that they do not brush their teeth.

http://www.westonaprice.org/healthis...oothbrush.html
post #62 of 861
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Originally Posted by kmecke
Ok so I'm a little confused! Today I went nd bought Carlson's Cod Liver Oil in gel form. I can take 5 gells a day and get 1250 IU of Vitamin A and 500 IU of Vitamin D. On my multi-vitamin im taking I get 7000 IU of Vitamin A and 400 IU of Vitamin D-3 so what is my body getting different from the two that will help me?
I'm confused too What you mean different?

The prescription for a nutrient dense diet to prevent tooth decay is three fold:

1. High minerals in diet, such as including raw milk and bone broths everyday.

2. High amounts of vitamin A and D, for example the native diets Price studied ate on average 50,000 IU of vitamin A from natural sources.

3. The X Factor, the fat soluble activator that helps the body absorb minerals, it is present in grass fed dairy, shellfish and organ meats.

Also it's likely that most multi vitamins include the chemical form of vitamin A, such as palmitates. This is not good for you. It's the form that is shown thru research to be toxic and has led to throwing out the baby with the bathwater and making all medical establishment afraid of natural vit. A too (and they would be wrong.)
post #63 of 861
So would you say the Cod Liver Oil gels I got will be sufficiant for the natural source of vitamin A and D.

Im looking into a local farm lady here in our little town for Raw Milk. Does that provide the X-factor also becuase its from a grass fed cow or are we talking about the cow meat?

Thank you for all your help!!!
post #64 of 861
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No, not the meat, it's gotta be fats: butter (and milk and cream and cheese to a lesser extent). It's the fats that aid in absorption of minerals.

One thing WAP never specified to my recollection is the amount of A and D necessary for curing cavities. Maybe someone else who is familiar with his work can chime in.

I do know:

-his clinical findings were using high vitamin cod liver oil, not sure how much A that provided.

-as I stated before, native diets got 50,000 IU of A/day.

www.mercola.com has a lot of info on vitamin D levels.
post #65 of 861
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Several months ago, I got some Toothsoap based on a rec from someone here and I really like it! http://www.perfect-prescription.com/dentalhygiene.htm
This looks very interesting to me, but I'm somewhat leery of it because of the self-promoting aspect of the website. Also I read the "buyers agreement" or whatever it's called, that you have to acknowledge before purchasing. I guess I was weirded out by the "moneymaking scheme" section. Just wondered if there was something I was missing about the rest of the site.
post #66 of 861
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Yes, she is a WAHM that is trying to make some money. Her instructions follow Dr. Judd's research.

You can just use regular soap with the same results. I don't know if Bronner's soap qualities are the same. I think I heard that liquid soap is not good, not sure about Dr. B's bar soap, do they make peppermint?

I just like her soap b/c it doesn't taste at all like soap and has good flavors. I haven't seen any other product like it. And I don't like using baking soda regularly b/c it wears away at the enamel, so to me, this was an easy, palatable option. (And it seems to be really working for me, I have NO little lines of tartar along gumline, can't wait for my dentist appt.)

Was it T*annu or Toraji that ordered this to try?

Any other people using Toothsoap?
post #67 of 861
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Originally Posted by JaneS

Was it T*annu or Toraji that ordered this to try?

Any other people using Toothsoap?

It was me, and we are loving it. The children have no problem with using it either. My teeth have never felt cleaner and my gums are actually healing. It really doesn't taste bad at all provided you don't swallow it.

I got Dr Judd's book which I found very interesting. The Perfect Prescription book quotes a great deal from Dr Judd.
post #68 of 861

Fillings

Peace everyone,

I just joined this group on advice of a friend. I have some dental fillings [not mercury but the white ones] and am hearing about them having formaldehyde and all these lovely things in them. Also, I have some cavities. What should I do about them? What is the best treatment, holistically speaking, for cavities?

Thanks so much!

Peace,

~Jumaanah
post #69 of 861
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Not all composites have formaldehyde or bisphenol-A. Diamond Lite I think is the one that does not. There are many different kinds and recipes for composite white fillings. I think the best option is to find a holistic dentist and research your options for fixing them or trying to remineralize.
post #70 of 861
Just took DD (3) in for her 1st cleaning. She has the beginnings of a cavity & they want to put a cement, I don't know, "cover" on it. (Not a full-fledged filling.) Anyway, I was floored. She's been on grass-fed raw milk (lots of it) since stopped bf. We do eat more sugar than we should, but she gets lots of good food too. We brush her teeth every night (no flouride.) I've always had very healthy teeth & I pompously assumed she would too. We've been using CLO haphazardly for about a year, lots of kefir & yogurt, grassfed raw butter on & off, bone broth (but again not every day). I *did* giver her a bottle's worth of chewable C tablets before I knew better & we have acidic well water.

Anyway...I guess partly I wanted to share this to debate teh idea earlier in the thread that raw milk alone is enough to prevent cavities. Also wondering if anyone is familiar w/the type of "filling" they want to use. (If my pathetic description was adequate. ) There are no holistic dentists in our area. (This area is agonizingly mainstream in that regard.) I've started giving her CLO every morning w/o fail & will pick up butter oil soon. Thanks so much JaneS for starting this thread & to all who pitched it. I'm sure it will prove to be a great help.

Dawn
post #71 of 861
Another great thread revived!
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Was it T*annu or Toraji that ordered this to try?

Any other people using Toothsoap?
Yes! I really love it too.

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Originally Posted by uccomama
It was me, and we are loving it. The children have no problem with using it either. My teeth have never felt cleaner and my gums are actually healing. It really doesn't taste bad at all provided you don't swallow it.
What flavor do your dcs use? DD used Burt's Bees orange flavored toothpaste and eats it off the toothbrush, she loves it so much. I don't see her taking the peppermint flavored one without a fuss though and I'd like to get away from the Burt's Bees.

Jane,
DD is taking Kirkman's chewable vitamins - - do you think these are harsh on the tooth enamel too?

One more ? - - where can one find grass fed butter and cream? My co-op that carries my raw milk does not have any.
post #72 of 861
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ARGH Dawn!!

I don't know know much about the description of the cement cover... maybe you could PM Smilemomma? As long as there is no metals in it it should be okay.

I think the vitamin D could be a reason too maybe? You are in northern US like I am and literally the sun is only at the proper angle during summer around noontime. Did you supplement D while bf'ing? Just thinking out loud. This is soooo hard! And I'm living in fear here, DS's calculus is back on his bottom teeth and I don't think he can tolerate the butter oil.

Annikate,

Yes, any chewable vitamin C wears away at the enamel b/c it is so acidic. I don't know why they still make them!!!

Have you emailed your local Weston Price chapter leader re: grass fed dairy? (I forgot where you are)
post #73 of 861
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Did you supplement D while bf'ing?
No, unfortunately. I didn't realize the importance then. I've started giving DS CLO now also. Poor DD - I envision her being a guinea pig her whole life.

As to the contents of the cover, I'll probably just call the dentist tomorrow. If I find out anything exciting, i'll post it.

Good luck w/your DS, JaneS!
post #74 of 861
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Originally Posted by JaneS
Have you emailed your local Weston Price chapter leader re: grass fed dairy? (I forgot where you are)
In FL & I was just on the site today and found a leader relatively close by. I think my co-op is looking into starting a chapter.

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Yes, any chewable vitamin C wears away at the enamel b/c it is so acidic. I don't know why they still make them!!!
Ughh, dd LOVES her vitamins. I guess I could get capsules and sprinkle them huh? (I was just about to order her some more too. . . )
post #75 of 861
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Originally Posted by Annikate
One more ? - - where can one find grass fed butter and cream? My co-op that carries my raw milk does not have any.
If you're getting raw milk, you can skim the cream off of the top and make your own butter. There have been a couple of butter-making threads in the Nutrition & Good Eating forum (basically agitate the cream--blender or mixer works well--until the butter and the buttermilk separate, squeeze out the remaining buttermilk, add dash of salt & you have raw butter). It's an incredible change from the pale butter that so much of America is used to.

Thanks for reviving the thread!
post #76 of 861
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Originally Posted by RidentMama
If you're getting raw milk, you can skim the cream off of the top and make your own butter. There have been a couple of butter-making threads in the Nutrition & Good Eating forum (basically agitate the cream--blender or mixer works well--until the butter and the buttermilk separate, squeeze out the remaining buttermilk, add dash of salt & you have raw butter). It's an incredible change from the pale butter that so much of America is used to.

Thanks for reviving the thread!
Off to look for the butter making threads!
post #77 of 861
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post #78 of 861
So what about wisdom teeth? I am trying to figure out what to do with mine, but am having a hard time finding information.
post #79 of 861
subbing to this exvellent thread
post #80 of 861
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Originally Posted by FreeRangeMama
So what about wisdom teeth? I am trying to figure out what to do with mine, but am having a hard time finding information.
Are they bothering you? If not, leave them alone I think.

http://www.toothwisdom.net/w.is_it_wisdom.html
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