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Fairly OT- Update on Charlie  

post #1 of 26
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Since this is the forum I post most in, and since his rash has (for some reason... ??) been discussed here, I thought I might as well update.

Charlie was hospitalized last night. The skin on his lower legs, elbows, and parts of his face has sloughed off, revealing, well, the stuff that is under the skin. He has a major systemic infection (obviously) and is on IV abx and in isolation.

He's still smiling though. I don't know how.

Hopefully we can FINALLY get to the bottom of this. At this point, even hearing he has cancer (which is still a contender that has not been ruled out) would almost be a relief because at least we would KNOW.

He was catheterized in the ER last night. It was almost a showdown because the nurse kept insisting he MUST be retracted to clean under it, etc. But she didn't retract, although she made it clear that I didn't know what I was talking about. She was asking me about how I keep him from getting infections and bacterial overgrowth...

He passed out while they were trying to start his lines... now I see firsthand how babies fall asleep during MGM. I watched my kid FALL ASLEEP while in intense pain. I was grateful he finally passed out though.

He's not getting out of our sight while we're there. Although they wanted to immunize him this morning!! :

I won't update here again (but I will update my blog). But just wanted everyone to know, since several of you have expressed concern for him.
post #2 of 26
Estelle! This is urgent!



Get them to check for Kawasaki Syndrome. It has nothing to do with motorcycles and is extremely dangerous but the cure is very simple. Immunogloblin and asprin. Quick treatment is essential. It is very rare and very few doctors are knowledgeable enough to diagnose it This is very urgent! I wish I could call you to alert you sooner.



Frank
post #3 of 26
Poor poor Charlie! Stay strong mama! I hope you get it figured out asap!
post #4 of 26
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
Estelle! This is urgent!
Can you email her through her profile or if not maybe post a comment to her blog? That will often send an email update.
post #5 of 26
Awww poor poor Charlie! I feel so bad for the poor kid, and i sooo hope that you guys finally find out what is going on with him. Thank goodness that you guys are so watchful over him to protect him from those that are ignorant on how to care for an intact boy. I started getting teary eyed when i read that Charlie passed out from pain.

sending love and wishes for better health for all of you.
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by mightymoo
Can you email her through her profile or if not maybe post a comment to her blog? That will often send an email update.
I sent her a PM. She was still on line so I'm sure she got it. My best guess is that she is frantically on the phone right now trying to describe something she has never heard of to someone who also has never heard of it.


Frank
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
Not quite on the phone yet Frank, but yes I got it. Thank you. I read about it earlier but what I was reading said it was only in children of oriental descent, thus the name.
However I will ask them about it as soon as I get there.
Thank you for the heads up!
post #8 of 26
No, No Estelle! My ex-GF's grandson had it and he is not oriental. Another sometimes symptom is a red tongue. This is very urgent. No time for a trip! Call them!



Frank
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post #10 of 26
s I'll be thinking about you guys.
post #11 of 26
Wow Frank...I really hope you are right....

Stay strong Mamas!
post #12 of 26
Holy crap, Frank...I was just reading about it, and some of the symptoms including the severe rash that eventually peels are definately symptoms.

http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh...s/en/kawas.htm

"Who gets Kawasaki syndrome?

Most cases occur in infants and children under age five."

http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical.../kawasaki.html

"Kawasaki disease occurs in 19 out of every 100,000 kids in the United States. It is most common among children of Japanese and Korean descent, but the illness can affect all ethnic groups."
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by AmazoniaBelly
Wow Frank...I really hope you are right....
I really hope I'm wrong! I know you didn't mean it that way.

Kawasaki syndrome is extremely dangerous. When my ex-GF's grandson had it, they took him to the ped within 2 hours of the time the rash appeared and they transported him directly to the hospital where he stayed for 10 days. Luckily, the Ped had seen a case when he was in Med school many years before and recognized the symptoms immediately and knew it was an emergency case. Immediate treatment is essential to avoid complications.

My ex immediately called me when she got the word. She knew that I had some medical knowledge and that I could read and intepret medical lingo. I had never heard of Kawasaki Syndrome but launched on a research mission.

This syndrome has no known cause. It has a 20% mortality rate and a very high rate of complications, mainly cardiac and vascular damage that usually lasts a lifetime. That damage can be prevented with essentially instaneous treatment with IV immunoglobulin and asprin. If treatment is not started immediately the risk goes up rapidly and probably peaks at 3 days after symptoms begin. The symptoms are a red rash usually on the thorax and less often spreading on the limbs and face, fever, pain, a red tongue and/or lips and lethargy. After the symptoms begin to subside, the skin sloughs in sheets much like after a severe sunburn. The child will be weak for 1.5 to 2 months after the episode.

About the only good thing about it is it is not contagious.

When I saw Estelle's discription of Charlie's symptoms, I panicked. I usually am deadpan calm but those symptoms scared the devil out of me. My heart was racing, my stomach was churning and my eyes were stinging like I was going to cry. When I saw that Estelle had logged off, I had to go down to the Dairy Queen for some ice cream to soothe my nerves. :



Frank
post #14 of 26
My nephew had Kawasaki syndrome last year. He is Italian -- no Asian decent at all. I'll check your blog in the next few days to see how he's doing. Our thoughts are with you. Poor little guy!
post #15 of 26
I hope Charlie is okay!
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
Estelle! This is urgent!



Get them to check for Kawasaki Syndrome. It has nothing to do with motorcycles and is extremely dangerous but the cure is very simple. Immunogloblin and asprin. Quick treatment is essential. It is very rare and very few doctors are knowledgeable enough to diagnose it This is very urgent! I wish I could call you to alert you sooner.



Frank

Absolutely!!!! A friend of the family was found to have this - she was an extremely sick little girl until the diagnosis was made and after that she was perfectly fine and is getting married this May!

Excellend advice Frank!
post #17 of 26
I am so sorry that you, your poor family and that sweet baby are going through this. You are all in my family's thoughts and prayers. We will be thinking of you in the days to come.
post #18 of 26
Didn't one or two of John Travolta's kids have Kawasaki syndrome? And weren't they saying that they thought it was from the cleaning solution used to clean their carpets?? Anyone remember this?
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
If treatment is not started immediately the risk goes up rapidly and probably peaks at 3 days after symptoms begin. The symptoms are a red rash usually on the thorax and less often spreading on the limbs and face, fever, pain, a red tongue and/or lips and lethargy. After the symptoms begin to subside, the skin sloughs in sheets much like after a severe sunburn. The child will be weak for 1.5 to 2 months after the episode.

Frank
If I remember right Charlie has had the rash for months. I thought Kawasaki was more dangerous than that?
post #20 of 26
Scarlet fever and impetigo can also cause peeling skin after a rash.

Best wishes/prayers to you and Charlie.
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