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post #1 of 14
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Dh and I toured a local school today to see about kinder there for our dd. I felt pretty good about it overall, but I'm still left with so many questions and worries (in general, not about this school). First of all, I am a former public school teacher, can't afford private and have no intention of homeschooling. The charter options where we live are not that appealing to me (one Waldorf, hard to get into, one Montessori, where I used to teach-needs improvement IMO). So public school is almost certain.

Our daughter is a Novemeber birthday, which means she is young, and I'm getting a lot of advice to keep her out of kinder for another year. I really don't agree with the advice. I have taught kinder, and know what the expectations are academically, and my daughter is meeting most of them already (but can't yet write her name well). Socially, she's been attending preschool since the age of 2, gets along well with other kids, listens to her teachers, can sit still and focus, etc.

If I keep her out of kinder, she would attend the kinder class at the preschool (otherwise next year she would be the oldest in her class and her friends would 'move up' without her). So essentially she'd be doing 2 years of kinder, which I'm afraid would leave her VERY bored by year 2. I don't want to sound snotty, but she can already read a little bit, and both dh and I read before kinder and were in GATE programs. I know they do a lot of things that are fun, but I worry about her sitting and learning letter sounds when she is 6 years old and has known how to read for 2 years, KWIM?

So, the school we want her to go to, probably, has a lottery system (it is a magnet school for the arts and sciences) and if she doesn't get in, we're stuck with coming up with a plan B. Here are my choices:

1) Keep her out of kinder (let her do a year at her preschool and another year in public) and try to open enroll again next fall
2) Enroll her in our local school (good school, but K-6, and the middle school isn't great)
3) Use my parents address across town and enroll her in a really good school, but drive 30 min. each way into a very wealthy, non-diverse neighborhood (where my sister and I attended great schools but were both bullied).

I am freaking out. What should we do?
post #2 of 14
I had a friend through high school who was born in Dec, but they let her start school at 4. She never had problems or regrets except for not having her driver's license. I think it's fine to start her at two.

As for the school, you don't really sound all that keen on any of them so I'm not sure what school is better.
post #3 of 14
My mom's a teacher too, and I remember her always saying how hard November birthdays are...I guess this is why. But I honestly think that if she is already reading some, and has been in preschool for a couple of years she is probably ready. Plus, girls are usually ready earlier anyway. What does she think? (((Hugs))) I know you will make the right decision for her!
post #4 of 14
That is funny our cut-off here is Sept. 1rst so kids with November birthdays are among the oldest.

I would probably go with your local K-6 school since it sounds like the option you like the best for next year and wait a couple of years to worry about middle school.

BJ
Barney & Ben
post #5 of 14
I'd enroll her in public K. The socialization element is THE most important readiness factor for kingergarten and it sounds like she is already there.

My two are heading for public K in 2 years. I'm already biting my nails...

post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well, we've decided for certain to go ahead and try to open enroll her in the magnet K-8 school for next fall. Hopefully she gets in and we don't have to worry about plan B! If we do the open enrollment, they let us know by April, plenty of time to think more about what to do if she doesn't get in.

We're going to talk to some parents that have their son in the kinder near my parents' house, and try to speak to a teacher there too. Maybe we will end up feeling really good about it as a plan B, I think I have some negative feelings about it from my own childhood.

It is a nailbiter, I never thought it would be such a tough decision!
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by wildmonkeys
That is funny our cut-off here is Sept. 1rst so kids with November birthdays are among the oldest.
Yea, same here. My middle child's birthday is in November and it was an easy decision to send her to public K.

My oldest and youngest have late May birthdays, so not technically summer, but close enough that we struggled with where to send them for K. Ds (oldest child) stayed at his preschool for K. Great teachers, smallish class, but his adjustment to first grade was tough. (He went from a half-day K to full day first grade.) We are now trying to figure out where our youngest should go. I guess I shouldn't be so afraid of public K, since our other dd went to public K at the same school, but the younger dd will be six months younger. And her preschool K class is only 10 kids with two teachers, so it is hard to pass that up. But I worry that public first grade will be more of an adjustment for her if we don't send her on to public K.

I don't know what we'll do.
post #8 of 14
Lousli-
Check if the magnet school will save your dd a spot if she gets in this year and then you/teacher decides she should be held back. This way if you get in this year and decide to hold her back she automatically has a spot there for next year. This way you keep your options open.
We did this with my dd but then moved before school started.
We started dd on time but now I don't know what to do. She's very social but middle of the road academically. She doesn't get bored easily so I don't think she would mind another year, though she doesn't want to loose her friends and I think she would resist staying back. I do wish I would have never started and not have to deal with that. Though honestly we just moved her a couple months before school started so it's not like she had any friends to start.
post #9 of 14
If I were in your situation I would probably enroll her in the local public school if you did not get chosen through the magnet school lottery. Then perhaps reapply for the magnet till you get in.She could away switch back to the ps if she dislikes the magnet. Best wishes for her whatever route you choose!
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well, we have made some of the decision

We did the open enrollment process at the magnet school for next year, and if she gets in, she will go there.

We're still thinking about and discussing plan B, especially since finding out that the chi-chi public school near my parents' house is going to be turned into a K-8 school (which is important to us). Thanks for the advice everyone! We find out if she gets into the magnet school the second week of April.
post #11 of 14
would you be opening yourself up to legal problems if you enrolled her in the school in your parent's district? I know where I live you could be sued the cost of tuition for your child if you are caught (retroactively). I don't think I'd enroll my child somewhere where she needed to lie. (If asked at school where she lived... invited to playdates... it could all backfire.) I can usually tell when my students are squirmish about answering those kinds of questions and they aren't sure what they are allowed to say.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
I suppose in theory it could have legal ramifications. But it is pretty commonly done, and I've never seen it happen. I could apply for a district transfer, if I wanted to go about it the legal way. I doubt on a playdate anyone is really going to care where she lives. Ethically, I don't have a problem with it,since I think that public education should be truly free and equal for everyone, and that the schools in good neighborhoods shouldn't get all the best resources, teachers, technology, etc. while the schools in other neighborhoods have to scramble for paper and pencils. But that's a whole different thread...
post #13 of 14
alright-- just checking. the only reason i thought of it is that my district is currently in the process of retroactively suing parents who have sent their children to our schools without really living here. which can mean $35K-40K just for elementary alone...

i agree with the ethics though...
post #14 of 14
Yeah, you know, all the districts around us are cracking down hard on families who don't live in the district. Surprise visits at the home and things like that. Just make sure they don't do that in that district.
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