Reason for your cecerean??? Please share! - Page 2

[dotcommama]

Re: Reason for your cecerean??? Please share!

Holly - I don't mean to be rude, but I feel the tone of your post to be offensive.

Originally posted by Juelie's Mom
I have thus far heard only one story where a cecerean was nessecary (placental preevia). I was hoping you could share with me the reasons for your cecerean births

What I hear is - "C-sections are almost always unnecessary - prove to me yours wasn't"

Why do any of us have to prove our sections were 100% medically necessary to anyone? This attitude hurts. I can tell you that almost no woman decides to undergo this major surgery to delivery her baby for no reason or just for fun. In hind sight lots of women go back over it and think - if I did this differently, if I had tried harder, if the doctor hadn't over reacted, etc. . . it might not have been necessary - but at the time of labor you make the best decision you can for the health and safety of yourself and your baby and no one should look down on you or judge you for that decision. And you should not be asked to justify it to anyone.

[KKmama]

Thank you, dotcommama. You said it better than I could have.

I also had a medically necessary emergency C, and I feel thankful that my ds and I are both here, and that I can still have more children. Yes, I would have preferred a "drug-free vaginal birth," but my whole reason for getting pregnant in the first place was to be a mama, not to give birth.

Kristine

[RileysMom]

I went into preterm labor at 29 weeks. DD was high and transverse and c section was the safest option.

Ruined my birth hopes, but she is healthy and fine and that is all that truly matters.

My ob tried to do a horizontal cut, but couldn't reach her well, so VBAC will not be an option for me.

It would be helpful to have a support person knowledgable about how to have the most "natural" c section possible. (I know that is like a contradiction in ideas! but you know what I mean. Like giving me the baby as soon as she's out to nurse, etc....)

[CerridwenLorelei]

I wonder to this day if I had had the dr

I had with the duo with my first if I would have been able to have him or not
My contractions were actually hip shattering pains that made me scream as the bones were literally banged.
After 12 1/2 hours they gave me a choice of csec or one more hour.
At that point , separated, young and in utter pain and thinking this doc was fairly ok I chose the sec. Later they told me If I had not they would have been doing an emergency sec in that next 15 minutes.
They said I was too small. Ds chest and shoulders together at birth measured almost 26 inches.
xrays showed him stuck right where I was having the bone shattering ( felt like) pains.
My remaining three children are ALL VBAC!!!

[Pynki]

My 1st ds was c-sec because he was breech, and he would NOT turn.. We tried.. IT hurt.. MY 2nd ds was vbac...

Just as an aside here.. There maybe lots of unneccesary c/s, but before c/w were so common, there were alot of unneccesary deaths during childbirth.. Many wommen have delivered breech babies, however, me personally, i would rather have that c/s than have to worry about the issues that can arrise from a breech gone bad.. Birth is a chancey thing by nature.. Why take more risks than necessary...

You never know what a c/s feels like until you have one, so for you to say that you can only think of one instance were a c/s is neccesary is very condesending.. I'm sure that wasn't your intent, but that's how it comes across when read..

Warm Squishy Feelings..

Dyan


eddited because my keyboard is being whacky..

[AmyB]

My C-section was 100% unnecessary beacuese in the end I didn't have it after all.

They lost the fetal heartbeat on the monitor and went into full panic mode. As they were prepping me for surgery someone discovered, surprise, surprise, that I was fully dilated and the baby was being born. Up until the moment of panic a nurse had been actually yelling at me not to push because I wasn't dilated and chiding me that I would "tear my cervix" if I kept pushing.

I am still angry at what I see as inexcusable incompetence that brought me within seconds of unnecessary surgery.

--AmyB

[kaje62]

Holly I think it is really important that you educate yourself before you start working as a doula cuz it should be a safe place for women and supportive.

I took bradley, i hired a doulah. I took a pregnancy movement class for natural labor.

We found out 4 days before Charlie was born that he was breech (lotus position) I did research and breech vaginal births work on 2nd babies at times but rare on first and Charlie was in the lotus position (indian style) Frank Breech is the safest. We did a version, we did moxy stick. We did cranial sacral. We did chiropractic and three days later, my water broke and cuz of meconium worries and all, we did the C. I am glad he is here. I was awake the whole time. He was with me 5 minutes later. Doulah and DH were in the room. He nursed well an hour later. He slept in our room for 5 days.

I am pregnant with number two but not so sure about a VBAC. I am 40 and heavy set. But I am considering it. I am anxious to the hear how the gal due in the next few days does with her VBAC.

[Juelie's Mom]

I did not AT ALL mean for my post to be offensive. The reason for this post was that I feel I need to understand the medical reasons behind nessecary c-sections. I do believe that there are medical reasons behid them, however, I have not met anyone thus far who has had any. So I came here hoping that you wouldn't mind helping me to further educate myself in this area. I have not done a who lot of research and have not delt personally with many moms who have had sections they do not regret, or who after the fact found out that they were unessecary. I am a little shocked that this would offend anyone. I am simply trying to educate myself so that I can better serve my future clients. I appologize if I made it sound like anything other than that.

--Holly

[dotcommama]

Juelie's Mom - just so you know I didn't think you were trying to be offensive in asking the question, but I wanted you to be aware, since you are going to be dealing with other women who have had c-sections in your chosen proffesion, that you need to be very sensitive about the topic and be careful that you don't come across as judgemental about the reasons for a section. Whether it was your intention or not stating that you never met anyone who needed a c-section implies that many have them, but not many need them - this is what comes across as insulting - at least to me.

So. . . - I hope that this thread has helped educate you on the sensitive nature of this topic which hopefully will serve you well as a Bradley Instructor and a doula.

[theflower]

I had a c/s due to baby being frank breech and my water broke before a scheduled version. My ob did not do breech deliveries. At the time, I didn't question that a breech should be by c/s. Now I do, but (big but) I think a c/s is probably safer than vaginal if the provider is not experienced with breech delivery. I think an inexperienced provider that is nervous can do a lot of damage.

[Juelie's Mom]

dotcommama

I appologize for being a little too technical and a little too not so emotional. I tend to do that. I get so wrapped up in finding the facts that I am looking for, I forget to be sensitive sometimes. You have really helped to bring that to my attention, which I appreciate greatly b/c I really do feel sensitively toward this topic.
Thaks,
Holly

[dotcommama]

[kaje62]

again I agree a frank breech is safer than a lotus and my water broke too. And know there were no other alternatives for us. But I can tell you I have cried a lot this week worrying about a VBAC or repeat c-section. There is a lot of grief wrapped up in all this.

[MommyDOK]

My reason for c-section

I took full 10 weeks of Bradley--did all the exercises
I hired a Doula
I read every book on natural childbirth--even spent a ton to buy Grantly Dick-Read's book.
My OB is naturally inclined.

Had a c-section after 24 hours of excruciating back labor (epidural after 12 hours). Pushed for 4 hours, vacuum for one hour. She never changed stations the whole time.

My 9lb 10oz little girl was forehead presentation. From what I understand it is almost impossible to deliver a forehead presentation vaginally. If anyone knows that not to be true, I'm interested!

Shalom, Ruthie

[Melinda77]

My 9lb 10oz little girl was forehead presentation. From what I understand it is almost impossible to deliver a forehead presentation vaginally. If anyone knows that not to be true, I'm interested!

My son was a persistant brow presentation (and posterior) too. Every thing I have read and studied agrees that if the brow presentation doesn't turn to face or occipital, then they always end in c-sect. I have looked high and low and only when the brow changes is there a vag delivery, not once have I come accross a brow delivery - although interestingly, I have seen several brow-turned-face presentations that end in vag delivery, too bad our kiddo's wouldn't turn (and my ds has a scar under his nose from getting stuck on my pubic bone)!

On the up side, brow is also VERY rare, 1-20,000 is the # that comes up most frequently.

A little OT, but did you have a LOOONG prodormal labor w/your girl? I had a good pattern of prodromal contrax w/ds from about 34 weeks with no dialation until 3 days after my edd, and I now think it was because of the malpresentation. This time, I have had just some normal, random braxton hick's and I'm holding onto this difference as evidence that my girl has been listening to all my instructions to tuck her chin.

[petertyre]

Hi, I just wanted to add my story mostly I think because I'm now preparing for #2 and have been told that there is a good possability that I may need to have a c-section again due to the fact that this baby and our first (Aili) will only be 17 months apart when we get to to due date. I'm not sure I'm convinced, but I think I need to talk to an ob and see ...basically I need to do more research.

So, I was induced 2 weeks after our due dates because I was showing no signs of going into labour on my own.
Cerva-dil (spelling?) was used at first which broke my water, however there was maconium which meant I had to go straight to the hospital (so much for labouring at home).
I still showed no signs of going into labour on my own so they plugged in pitocin - 24 hours of labouring (12 of which was HARD labour) only got me to 3 cm - no pain control - the nurses were telling me it was going to be at least another 10 hours and still they weren't convinced. OB was pretty sure I was going to have a c-section in the morning regardless. So we made the call to have the section at 11:30 pm, I was exhausted.
As it turned out, when Aili dropped her head got stuck in my pelvis so there as nothing pushing on my cervix to dilate me further.
In the end I feel good about the decisions we made in our birthing room and I think it helped that my doula and partner and the nursing staff were incredible and very supportive.
However do I want to have another c-section? I'm not sure I'd say that I want to.
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[Juelie's Mom]

Originally posted by petertyre
Hi, I just wanted to add my story mostly I think because I'm now preparing for #2 and have been told that there is a good possability that I may need to have a c-section again due to the fact that this baby and our first (Aili) will only be 17 months apart when we get to to due date. I'm not sure I'm convinced, but I think I need to talk to an ob and see ...basically I need to do more research.

I would deffinatly do more research on that. I appreciate the concern, however I know a woman who had a successful VBAC 14 months after a-section. Not only that but she had had 3 previouse c-sections! So her 4th child was her 1st vag delivery. Quite an accomplishment! Anyway, if you were really concerned about there being risks involved I'd say schedule a section, but since you seem to want a vag delivery this time around I urge you to do some research. I believe its very possible, esp with a birth team that is familiar with VBACs.

Holly

[Pynki]

Petertyre,

My 2 are not quite 19 months apart, and i had a c with the 1st and a vbac with the 2nd... I know that's almost 2 months difference, but my OB always suggested trying the VBAC.. I would look into it more... Especially if a VBAC is what you really want...

Warm Squishy Feelings...

Dyan

[Clarity]

I was told and read, varying times from 6months to 1 yr to heal well. At 14 months, I'd find a different doc and go for a vbac, if it were me.

[MommyDOK]

A little OT, but did you have a LOOONG prodormal labor w/your girl? I had a good pattern of prodromal contrax w/ds from about 34 weeks with no dialation until 3 days after my edd, and I now think it was because of the malpresentation. This time, I have had just some normal, random braxton hick's and I'm holding onto this difference as evidence that my girl has been listening to all my instructions to tuck her chin. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hi Melinda, I'd like to answer, but I'm not sure I know what prodromal labor is. If it's early signs of labor, then no.....I only had three hours of contractions the night before I went into total labor. I don't know how far dilated I was bc I wouldn't let ob check, bc of risk of infection, and I've been told it doesn't mean that much. I delivered two days before my due date. But everything was in my back, no feeling of contractions in front.

Ruthie